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    It's Official: Trump Tax Cuts Are Boosting Growth And Mostly Paying For Themselves

    Woohoo!!!! And , once again, the Pro-Big Government CBO's "Dire Predictions" ARE WRONG.







    It's Official: Trump Tax Cuts Are Boosting Growth And Mostly Paying For Themselves


    Taxes: When the Congressional Budget Office released its updated budget forecast, everyone focused on the deficit number. But buried in the report was the CBO's tacit admission that it vastly overestimated the cost of the Trump tax , because it didn't account for the strong economic growth they would generate.

    Among the many details in the report, the one reporters focused on was the CBO's forecast that the federal deficit would top $1 trillion in 2020, two years earlier than the CBO had previously said.
    And, naturally, most news accounts blamed the tax cuts. "U.S. budget deficit to balloon on Republican tax cuts" is how Reuters put it in a headline.

    But there's more to the story that the media overlooked.
    First, the CBO revised its economic forecast sharply upward this year and next.
    Last June, the CBO said GDP growth for 2018 would be just 2%. Now it figures growth will be 3.3% — a significant upward revision. It also boosted its forecast for 2019 from a meager 1.5% to a respectable 2.4%.
    "Underlying economic conditions have improved in some unexpected ways since June," the CBO says. Unexpected to the CBO, perhaps, but not to those of us who understood that Trump's tax cuts and deregulatory efforts would boosts growth.


    In any case, the CBO now expects GDP to be $6.1 trillion bigger by 2027 than it did before the tax cuts.
    The CBO report also makes clear that this faster-growing economy will offset most of the costs of the Trump tax cuts.
    In a table buried in the appendix of the CBO report, it shows that, before accounting for economic growth, the tax cuts Trump signed into law late last year would cut federal revenues by $1.69 trillion from 2018-2027.
    But it goes on to say that higher rate of GDP growth will produce $1.1 trillion in new revenues. In other words, 65% of the tax cuts are paid for by extra economic growth.





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    The CBO, by law, uses static accounting models when the project the effects of tax policy. Dynamic models could be more accurate, but easier to fudge.
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    Plus, the CBO always defaults on the side of "Big Government" solutions, like Obamacare, and disparages private sector solutions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The CBO, by law, uses static accounting models when the project the effects of tax policy. Dynamic models could be more accurate, but easier to fudge.
    Do people in government believe it is good to be wrong consistently?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Do people in government believe it is good to be wrong consistently?
    They just hope no one notices, and the Fake News fully cooperates in that endeavor....
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    Demos say crumbs.....crumbs I tell ya. We gonna repeal it and raise taxes.



    GOP to Call Democrats' Bluff: Who's Ready to Make Our Middle Class Tax Cuts Permanent?


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    Laffer Curve, under the right circumstance, lowering taxes raises revenue. Why, people have more of their own money and feel freer to spend.

    If we could just lower taxes AND revenue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Woohoo!!!! And , once again, the Pro-Big Government CBO's "Dire Predictions" ARE WRONG.







    It's Official: Trump Tax Cuts Are Boosting Growth And Mostly Paying For Themselves


    Taxes: When the Congressional Budget Office released its updated budget forecast, everyone focused on the deficit number. But buried in the report was the CBO's tacit admission that it vastly overestimated the cost of the Trump tax , because it didn't account for the strong economic growth they would generate.

    Among the many details in the report, the one reporters focused on was the CBO's forecast that the federal deficit would top $1 trillion in 2020, two years earlier than the CBO had previously said.
    And, naturally, most news accounts blamed the tax cuts. "U.S. budget deficit to balloon on Republican tax cuts" is how Reuters put it in a headline.

    But there's more to the story that the media overlooked.
    First, the CBO revised its economic forecast sharply upward this year and next.
    Last June, the CBO said GDP growth for 2018 would be just 2%. Now it figures growth will be 3.3% — a significant upward revision. It also boosted its forecast for 2019 from a meager 1.5% to a respectable 2.4%.
    "Underlying economic conditions have improved in some unexpected ways since June," the CBO says. Unexpected to the CBO, perhaps, but not to those of us who understood that Trump's tax cuts and deregulatory efforts would boosts growth.


    In any case, the CBO now expects GDP to be $6.1 trillion bigger by 2027 than it did before the tax cuts.
    The CBO report also makes clear that this faster-growing economy will offset most of the costs of the Trump tax cuts.
    In a table buried in the appendix of the CBO report, it shows that, before accounting for economic growth, the tax cuts Trump signed into law late last year would cut federal revenues by $1.69 trillion from 2018-2027.
    But it goes on to say that higher rate of GDP growth will produce $1.1 trillion in new revenues. In other words, 65% of the tax cuts are paid for by extra economic growth.





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    Don't fail into the trap. Tax cuts NEVER have to "pay for themselves". NOT taking someone's money doesn't "cost" anything. Never get suckered into using leftist loon terminology.
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Woohoo!!!! And , once again, the Pro-Big Government CBO's "Dire Predictions" ARE WRONG.





    It's Official: Trump Tax Cuts Are Boosting Growth And Mostly Paying For Themselves


    Taxes: When the Congressional Budget Office released its updated budget forecast, everyone focused on the deficit number. But buried in the report was the CBO's tacit admission that it vastly overestimated the cost of the Trump tax , because it didn't account for the strong economic growth they would generate.

    Among the many details in the report, the one reporters focused on was the CBO's forecast that the federal deficit would top $1 trillion in 2020, two years earlier than the CBO had previously said.
    And, naturally, most news accounts blamed the tax cuts. "U.S. budget deficit to balloon on Republican tax cuts" is how Reuters put it in a headline.

    But there's more to the story that the media overlooked.
    First, the CBO revised its economic forecast sharply upward this year and next.
    Last June, the CBO said GDP growth for 2018 would be just 2%. Now it figures growth will be 3.3% — a significant upward revision. It also boosted its forecast for 2019 from a meager 1.5% to a respectable 2.4%.
    "Underlying economic conditions have improved in some unexpected ways since June," the CBO says. Unexpected to the CBO, perhaps, but not to those of us who understood that Trump's tax cuts and deregulatory efforts would boosts growth.


    In any case, the CBO now expects GDP to be $6.1 trillion bigger by 2027 than it did before the tax cuts.
    The CBO report also makes clear that this faster-growing economy will offset most of the costs of the Trump tax cuts.
    In a table buried in the appendix of the CBO report, it shows that, before accounting for economic growth, the tax cuts Trump signed into law late last year would cut federal revenues by $1.69 trillion from 2018-2027.
    But it goes on to say that higher rate of GDP growth will produce $1.1 trillion in new revenues. In other words, 65% of the tax cuts are paid for by extra economic growth.





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    https://www.investors.com/politics/e...or-themselves/
    Aside from the fact that your source is a verified right wing conservative outfit...note the name involves the word "INVESTORS". There's no doubt that rich, connected investors are benefiting from Trump's tax cuts and of course, the cuts are working for them. That's what Trump wanted to do.


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    As far as regular Americans, not so much...and this is from FORBES!

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwas.../#125ec81f6c1e

    Every time I eye the GOP's tax plan, I'm reminded of Ebenezer Scrooge's wish to "decrease the surplus population" of the working class and poor.
    Scrooge's sentiment is re-animated in myriad ways that punish retired, working folks and the poor in recent GOP attempts to reward the ultra-affluent and corporations in their version of "tax reform."
    Here are several examples of how the tax plan hurts people who are not well off:
    -- Retirement Benefits Will Likely Be Cut. Because the plan proposes to add at least $1.5 trillion to the national debt, fiscal conservatives say the imbalance needs to be offset by either cuts of "entitlement" programs like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid or tax increases (see below).


    One sneaky way to lower Social Security payments is to change the way they are calculated. They are now indexed to inflation through a standard measure of the Consumer Price Index, but that will change under a new way of figuring inflation.
    Republicans want to used a "chained CPI," which would cut the amount retired people receive. Here's what Los Angeles Times columnist Michael Hiltzik discovered when he pried into the Senate GOP's tax plan:

    "Changing the inflation index immediately would raise about $125 billion over the next decade and nearly $500 billion in the decade after that, according to the Tax Policy Center.
    Most of that money would come out of the pockets of middle- and working-class taxpayers. Most important, it would slow inflation adjustments to tax brackets. This would hurt those taxpayers because more of them would move into higher tax brackets purely because of inflation in their wages."
    -- The GOP Plan Would Really Raise Taxes for Middle Class Over Time. President Trump and his GOP allies have been crowing about how middle class families will receive a tax cut in their plan.
    The truth is obscured by the fact that several tax breaks -- like personal exemptions and property tax write-offs -- are cut.
    Moreover, whatever meager personal cuts are proposed now go away in the future to pay for huge rate reductions for global corporations and the ultra-wealthy. Here's Catherine Rampell in the Washington Post:
    "Republican leaders keep claiming the bill focuses on helping the middle class. But voters are already catching on to the fact that the biggest tax cuts go to the wealthiest.
    Lately the public has learned that the Senate bill will actually raise taxes for households making less than $75,000 by 2027, relative to current law. Yes you read that right. And it’s true even if you don’t count the bill’s changes to Obamacare."
    -- Those Who Can Least Afford It Will Pay the Most for These "Reforms." The math is most compelling because it's mostly subtraction for working people.
    Since the in GOP plan is not cutting corporate loopholes, bringing back trillions in offshore cash by corporations and cutting defense spending, again, the only way to reduce the federal deficit is to slash big programs like Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid.
    This cruel math hurts everyone from retired people in nursing homes to the working poor. There's no help for families paying for long-term care, payroll taxes or college.
    Graduate students and families paying off college debt see whatever modest tax breaks vanish. That will further mushroom the outrageous cost of college.
    Instead of giving families tax credits for college bills and nursing/home care bills, they pay more out of pocket while the estate and alternative minimum tax on the ultra-affluent disappear.
    And on health care, the GOP tax reform template would cause millions to lose their health coverage or pay more, according to a fresh analysis from the AARP Public Policy Institute:
    -- People ages 50 to 64 would face average premium increases of up to $1,500 in 2019 as a result of the bill, the AARP study found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Laffer Curve, under the right circumstance, lowering taxes raises revenue. Why, people have more of their own money and feel freer to spend.

    If we could just lower taxes AND revenue.
    lol....Hasn't worked since Reagan, but there's still a few who believe it...

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