9th Circuit to appoint special prosecutor to oppose pardoned Arpaio

[stjames1_53]

One would hope that the courts base their decisions on the US Constitution & laws and not on ideals.

It is the 9th circuit court we're discussing. No other federal court would even hear such a thing. Trump needs to bust that court up.
Question: Where is the DNC getting the money to pay for the lawyers?

[gamewell45]

It is the 9th circuit court we're discussing. No other federal court would even hear such a thing. Trump needs to bust that court up.
Question: Where is the DNC getting the money to pay for the lawyers?

I have no idea; perhaps using money from donations?

[Tahuyaman]

I don't get the attempt to override the pardon. Agree or disagree with the pardon, it's fairly absolute (I think) and would set a dangerous precedent to have future Democrat president's pardons challenged. Remember, whatever the D's do to Trump the R's will do sevenfold to the next D president. Never take more power for yourself than you are willing to give to your worst enemy.

They can't overturn a presidential pardon. Yes, the president's power to issue a pardon is basically absolute. This is a clear example of judicial activism.

[Tahuyaman]

Trump used politics o pardon a man who lied to the FBI. The justice department here is just trying to say that Arpaio should not have been pardoned for this crime. For those looking into it, it's a matter of rule of law. Something Trump is against.

Get a grip. They are playing politics against a president whom they dislike.

[Standing Wolf]

Again...no one is attempting to "overturn a Presidential pardon".

Fake news. The kind that really is fake.

I understand it wouldn't be nearly as much fun, but some of you guys ought to really learn to study and understand an issue before getting your panties all in a bunch.

[Tahuyaman]

Again...no one is attempting to "overturn a Presidential pardon".

Fake news. The kind that really is fake.

I understand it wouldn't be nearly as much fun, but some of you guys ought to really learn to study and understand an issue before getting your panties all in a bunch.

What would you call it when a court is trying reinstate the conviction of a person who was granted a presidential pardon?


They are indeed attempting to reverse a presidential pardon. That would be in fact "overturning" a presidential pardon.

A federal appeals court will appoint a special prosecutor to argue that former Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s conviction for criminal contempt should stand, despite his pardon by President Donald Trump.

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[Standing Wolf]

What would you call it when a court is trying reinstate the conviction of a person who was granted a presidential pardon?

Do some reading, T. A pardon does not automatically vacate a conviction. The conviction stands - Arpaio simply doesn't have to suffer any punishment for it. That's what a pardon means. The conviction doesn't have to be "reinstated" because it was never vacated. Sheesh...I don't know how to explain it in any simpler terms.

[Peter1469]

Do some reading, T. A pardon does not automatically vacate a conviction. The conviction stands - Arpaio simply doesn't have to suffer any punishment for it. That's what a pardon means. The conviction doesn't have to be "reinstated" because it was never vacated. Sheesh...I don't know how to explain it in any simpler terms.

What is the purpose of the court proceedings?

[Tahuyaman]

Do some reading, T. A pardon does not automatically vacate a conviction. The conviction stands - Arpaio simply doesn't have to suffer any punishment for it. That's what a pardon means. The conviction doesn't have to be "reinstated" because it was never vacated. Sheesh...I don't know how to explain it in any simpler terms.

Just for the fun of it, one time try not to be a blind partisan.

[Tahuyaman]

What is the purpose of the court proceedings?

To reverse the effects of a presidential pardon.


A pardon is not the same as a commutation or clemency. A pardon wipes out the conviction. Period. Attempting to reinstate the conviction is indeed attempting to overturn a presidential pardon.


Has this ever happened in the past?