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    Returning The Favor

    Returning The Favor is Dirty Jobs Mike Rowe's latest venture. "Follow host Mike Rowe as he travels the country in search of remarkable people making a difference in their communities. Returning the Favor..."

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    Here's a blurb from an article on it, Mike Rowe’s Little Platoons

    Edmund Burke famously said in his Reflections on the Revolution in France: “To be attached to the subdivision, to love the little platoon we belong to in society, is the first principle (the germ as it were) of public affections.” Burke’s assertion was a challenge to the French radicals’ promotion of the idea that citizens give their primary loyalty to the all-encompassing State. The modern state crafted by the these eighteenth-century Revolutionaries, and honed by twentieth-century Leftists, was intended to provide for all the needs of its citizens. Intermediary institutions, like the church and local civic societies—the traditional providers for the unmet needs of the community—would be rendered obsolete in the face of the nation-state.

    But in the United States, as in many other modern nation-states, the growth of centralized government has not yet obviated the spirit of voluntarism and the desire of the ordinary man to help his neighbors. Indeed, local communities in America are alive and well, despite the best efforts of progressive activists and federal bureaucrats to take responsibility for every facet of the lives of Americans, by promoting such utopians notions as “free” universal healthcare, a “living wage” or guaranteed minimum income for all, even the elimination of poverty altogether.

    It is the enduring spirit of community voluntarism that Returning the Favor—a web television series created and hosted by actor Mike Rowe—celebrates....

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    I'll watch that. His old show not so much. Cleaning septic tanks had to be one of the worst episodes. Yuck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Returning The Favor is Dirty Jobs Mike Rowe's latest venture. "Follow host Mike Rowe as he travels the country in search of remarkable people making a difference in their communities. Returning the Favor..."

    You'll need a facebook account.

    Here's a blurb from an article on it, Mike Rowe’s Little Platoons




    Centralized government kills volunteerism? since when?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    Centralized government kills volunteerism? since when?
    Actually, bob, it says "the growth of centralized government has not yet obviated the spirit of voluntarism and the desire of the ordinary man to help his neighbors." You see, bob, before the growth of the welfare state, communities handled charity, and it worked better because in a trusting community you knew who gives and who receives charity and expectations of reciprocation are set up. If you watch "Returning the Favor" you will see that spirit still alive with people in communities helping each other. The welfare state undermines that community trust with anonymous hand outs with no expectation of payback, and it doesn't really work for while before the war o overty the poverty rate was in decline, but since that decline has stagnated and leveled out at around 15%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob the Slob View Post
    Centralized government kills volunteerism? since when?
    You have to follow the mindset of those that want to advocate for private charities and not the government. Just jump into any thread dealing with business discrimination and listen to those that wants no protections for citizens based upon characteristics they are born with, juxtaposed with wanting to remove government in favor of private charities. You will see a pattern, in which it should be obvious at what will happen when government is removed and private charities are allowed to pick and choose whom they help, regardless of the empty talk about how people won’t discriminate with charity monies, when we still have cases today where people discriminate knowing it’s against the law and they will be sued.

    Look to history to see how people reacted when given the freedom to treat citizens as they wanted to....see Brown vs Board of education, Woolworth’s, the public transit system.....government stepped in when the people proved they couldn’t be trusted with decency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    You have to follow the mindset of those that want to advocate for private charities and not the government. Just jump into any thread dealing with business discrimination and listen to those that wants no protections for citizens based upon characteristics they are born with, juxtaposed with wanting to remove government in favor of private charities. You will see a pattern, in which it should be obvious at what will happen when government is removed and private charities are allowed to pick and choose whom they help, regardless of the empty talk about how people won’t discriminate with charity monies, when we still have cases today where people discriminate knowing it’s against the law and they will be sued.

    Look to history to see how people reacted when given the freedom to treat citizens as they wanted to....see Brown vs Board of education, Woolworth’s, the public transit system.....government stepped in when the people proved they couldn’t be trusted with decency.
    Actually the argument here is not for private charity in terms of individual giving but community charty, the way things worked prior to the growth of the nation-state and it's impersonal welfare that keeps people locked in a cycle of poverty.

    How were ages and ages of that possible without your sacred government?

    The first episode is about a black kid and his mother whom when they found themselves homeless a volunteer shelter helped. The kid paid that back by making soap as a business and donating some of it to the shelter for other homeless people. The shelter and other people then in turn helped rent and fix a store for the kid. All without the government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Safety View Post
    You have to follow the mindset of those that want to advocate for private charities and not the government. Just jump into any thread dealing with business discrimination and listen to those that wants no protections for citizens based upon characteristics they are born with, juxtaposed with wanting to remove government in favor of private charities. You will see a pattern, in which it should be obvious at what will happen when government is removed and private charities are allowed to pick and choose whom they help, regardless of the empty talk about how people won’t discriminate with charity monies, when we still have cases today where people discriminate knowing it’s against the law and they will be sued.

    Look to history to see how people reacted when given the freedom to treat citizens as they wanted to....see Brown vs Board of education, Woolworth’s, the public transit system.....government stepped in when the people proved they couldn’t be trusted with decency.
    So stuck in a time 50 years ago. A true Regressive.
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