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    Green Beret is waterboarded to defend CIA nominee Gina Haspel

    On Friday, Green Beret Tim Kennedy live-streamed himself being waterboarded in his backyard by friends in order to demonstrate his belief that the procedure is not "torture," as some claim.

    Kennedy, who is also a UFC fighter, made the video to protest those who oppose Gina Haspel, Trumpís nominee for director of the CIA.


    Haspel has been criticized for her work at a CIA black site in Thailand where "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding were used in the aftermath of 9/11.


    In 2005, then-head of the CIAís National Clandestine Service (NCS), Jose Rodriguez, allegedly asked Haspel, who was his chief of staff, to write a cable directing personnel to destroy 92 tapes which are said to have shown the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. Rodriguez claims that he ordered the destruction of the tapes because the faces of CIA agents could allegedly be seen.


    However, Haspel was cleared of wrongdoing after a "disciplinary review" in 2011. In the review, then-Deputy Director of the CIA Mike Morell writes: "Ms. Haspel claims that she believed ó incorrectly as it turned out ó that Mr. Rodriguez was going to obtain approval from then (CIA) Director (Porter) Goss before releasing the cable."


    In April, Morell released a statement that reads in part:
    Ms. Haspel did not destroy the tapes, she did not oversee the destruction of the tapes and she did not order the destruction of the tapes ... She drafted a cable, under instruction from her boss, Mr. Rodriguez, that he sent ó under his name and authority ó ordering that the tapes be destroyed.





    During an interview with ProPublica, however, Rodriguez said that "he told Haspel directly that he was going to take matters into his own hands, and that she responded by saying she was worried about the consequences that he might face for such a brash act."


    ProPublica then quotes Rodriguez directly: "She didnít say, 'Donít do it.' She may have thought I was going to talk to more people about it before hitting 'send,' but I had made up my mind that I was going to follow through."


    According to the Associated Press, "little else is publicly known about her work with the program [black site in Thailand]."


    At the beginning of Kennedyís video (2:46), he states, "I just want everybody to understand what waterboarding is. Waterboarding is an opportunity for us to get information, useful information, out of somebody weíre questioning. There is no permanent damage, and itís just the fear of water that scares people."

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    Waterboarding by itself is not a big deal. You first must condition the prisoner through various methods such as sleep deprivation and other enhanced procedures. Once the prisoner is disoriented waterboarding becomes very effective.

    In SERE school we waterboard and do much worse to our own troops. I think the box is the worst of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    On Friday, Green Beret Tim Kennedy live-streamed himself being waterboarded in his backyard by friends in order to demonstrate his belief that the procedure is not "torture," as some claim.

    Kennedy, who is also a UFC fighter, made the video to protest those who oppose Gina Haspel, Trump’s nominee for director of the CIA.


    Haspel has been criticized for her work at a CIA black site in Thailand where "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding were used in the aftermath of 9/11.


    In 2005, then-head of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service (NCS), Jose Rodriguez, allegedly asked Haspel, who was his chief of staff, to write a cable directing personnel to destroy 92 tapes which are said to have shown the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. Rodriguez claims that he ordered the destruction of the tapes because the faces of CIA agents could allegedly be seen.


    However, Haspel was cleared of wrongdoing after a "disciplinary review" in 2011. In the review, then-Deputy Director of the CIA Mike Morell writes: "Ms. Haspel claims that she believed — incorrectly as it turned out — that Mr. Rodriguez was going to obtain approval from then (CIA) Director (Porter) Goss before releasing the cable."


    In April, Morell released a statement that reads in part:
    Ms. Haspel did not destroy the tapes, she did not oversee the destruction of the tapes and she did not order the destruction of the tapes ... She drafted a cable, under instruction from her boss, Mr. Rodriguez, that he sent — under his name and authority — ordering that the tapes be destroyed.





    During an interview with ProPublica, however, Rodriguez said that "he told Haspel directly that he was going to take matters into his own hands, and that she responded by saying she was worried about the consequences that he might face for such a brash act."


    ProPublica then quotes Rodriguez directly: "She didn’t say, 'Don’t do it.' She may have thought I was going to talk to more people about it before hitting 'send,' but I had made up my mind that I was going to follow through."


    According to the Associated Press, "little else is publicly known about her work with the program [black site in Thailand]."


    At the beginning of Kennedy’s video (2:46), he states, "I just want everybody to understand what waterboarding is. Waterboarding is an opportunity for us to get information, useful information, out of somebody we’re questioning. There is no permanent damage, and it’s just the fear of water that scares people."

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/30576...ded-frank-camp
    1) He knew they were his friends and wouldn't kill him.
    2) Arrest his friends immediately

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    On Friday, Green Beret Tim Kennedy live-streamed himself being waterboarded in his backyard by friends in order to demonstrate his belief that the procedure is not "torture," as some claim.

    Kennedy, who is also a UFC fighter, made the video to protest those who oppose Gina Haspel, Trump’s nominee for director of the CIA.


    Haspel has been criticized for her work at a CIA black site in Thailand where "enhanced interrogation techniques" such as waterboarding were used in the aftermath of 9/11.


    In 2005, then-head of the CIA’s National Clandestine Service (NCS), Jose Rodriguez, allegedly asked Haspel, who was his chief of staff, to write a cable directing personnel to destroy 92 tapes which are said to have shown the interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri. Rodriguez claims that he ordered the destruction of the tapes because the faces of CIA agents could allegedly be seen.


    However, Haspel was cleared of wrongdoing after a "disciplinary review" in 2011. In the review, then-Deputy Director of the CIA Mike Morell writes: "Ms. Haspel claims that she believed — incorrectly as it turned out — that Mr. Rodriguez was going to obtain approval from then (CIA) Director (Porter) Goss before releasing the cable."


    In April, Morell released a statement that reads in part:
    Ms. Haspel did not destroy the tapes, she did not oversee the destruction of the tapes and she did not order the destruction of the tapes ... She drafted a cable, under instruction from her boss, Mr. Rodriguez, that he sent — under his name and authority — ordering that the tapes be destroyed.





    During an interview with ProPublica, however, Rodriguez said that "he told Haspel directly that he was going to take matters into his own hands, and that she responded by saying she was worried about the consequences that he might face for such a brash act."


    ProPublica then quotes Rodriguez directly: "She didn’t say, 'Don’t do it.' She may have thought I was going to talk to more people about it before hitting 'send,' but I had made up my mind that I was going to follow through."


    According to the Associated Press, "little else is publicly known about her work with the program [black site in Thailand]."


    At the beginning of Kennedy’s video (2:46), he states, "I just want everybody to understand what waterboarding is. Waterboarding is an opportunity for us to get information, useful information, out of somebody we’re questioning. There is no permanent damage, and it’s just the fear of water that scares people."

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/30576...ded-frank-camp
    What a retarded thing to do. Of course it's not torture when you know your friends won't let you get hurt, when you know they won't be doing worse, and that they will stop whenever you tell them to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    What a retarded thing to do. Of course it's not torture when you know your friends won't let you get hurt, when you know they won't be doing worse, and that they will stop whenever you tell them to.
    He was demonstrating that it does not cause any physical harm Definition of torture 1. the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure 2. a. something that causes agony or pain
    b. anguish of body or mind : agony
    3. distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : straining




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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    He was demonstrating that it does not cause any physical harm Definition of torture 1. the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure 2. a. something that causes agony or pain
    b. anguish of body or mind : agony
    3. distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : straining



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    Maybe they should waterboard the POTUS....and see how he likes it?

    But start with Dick Cheney!
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    Meh, he should have just brought up the times the Demos were informed, the names of the Demos who approved. How many times the Demos approved. Then all the times the Demos were sticking up for Haspel during BO the Peeps time in Office. That would show the Demos being hypocrites as well as how they are 2 faced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannons Front View Post
    He was demonstrating that it does not cause any physical harm Definition of torture 1. the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure 2. a. something that causes agony or pain
    b. anguish of body or mind : agony
    3. distortion or overrefinement of a meaning or an argument : straining



    The Repubs should have had Morell brought in to testify. Since he was BO the peeps acting CIA director. Then questioned Morell and had him set out the Demos names to the public and how many times they were informed and approved of any measures.

    Best torture for a Leftist is to set their Name out to the public and let We the People deal with them. Mock them, treat them like $#@!, make them feel what they are in reality. Of course I am talking about the political leftness.
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