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Thread: Almost half of US families can't afford basics like rent and food

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    Median incomes of immigrants, both legal and illegal, have been rising.

    There has also been a decline in illegal immigration since 2007...so these cries about illegal immigrants and legal immigrants is just hot air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Your opinions on the matter are crystal clear and I have treated the OP on its own merits. I don't doubt that inequality has increased. My point is that immigration is a driver of inequality. That the influx of tens of millions of poor migrants has impacted inequality in the US is obvious. Surely you understand that.
    My opinions as previously expressed are irrelevant. There are an estimated 11 million 'migrants' in America out of a population of 326,766,748 million people. That is 3% of the population, if you are talking about undocumented migrants. So, are you referring to undocumented migrants or legal immigrants?
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    But that is Dr. Who's issue yet she doesn't understand that the mass immigration she champions drives inequality.
    Again, your impressions of my opinions are irrelevant. You are on the Serious Side of the forum. Substantiate your argument with something other than logical fallacy.
    In quoting my post, you affirm and agree that you have not been goaded, provoked, emotionally manipulated or otherwise coerced into responding.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Again, your impressions of my opinions are irrelevant. You are on the Serious Side of the forum. Substantiate your argument with something other than logical fallacy.
    Don't hold your breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Perhaps educational facilities should be required to provide full disclosure i.e. that a degree in certain disciplines is unlikely to result in employment.
    I agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Perhaps educational facilities should be required to provide full disclosure i.e. that a degree in certain disciplines is unlikely to result in employment.
    Maybe people should do their own research instead of depending on others to do it for them.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Wealth inequality isn't the issue- it is not as bad in the US as many make it out to be (they often leave out government assistance programs when they crunch the numbers).

    The main problems are the lack of new affordable houses and "education inequality" - too many either pay zero attention in school and end up working as unskilled or low skilled workers and too many get degrees in useless disciplines.
    Both of those (you blaming the students for poor education notwithstanding) are part of what is referred to as "wealth inequality".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Is immigration a big issue in Hawaii? How about Washington state? I doubt that Hawaii has many undocumented migrants and Washington's illegals tend to currently be Asians who overstay their visas. What do Hawaii, Washington and California have in common? High costs of living.
    Hawaii has a immigrant community of which 45,000 is estimated illegal
    https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...ants-in-hawaii

    Washington State has 250,000 illegals both are estimates and most likely much higher.
    https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...-in-washington


    Doc you grossly underestimate the impact of illegal immigrants in this country as do all liberals. Illegal immigrants have saturated this country in all states, Including Puerto rico and alaska.

    They force labor wages down across the board for all americans. Ironically liberals defense of illegal immigrants hurts those that you are posting about in this thread, american citizens at the lower end of the socio economic ladder and MINORITIES.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    ~snip~

    For instance, in Seattle's King County, the annual household survival budget for a family of four (including one infant and one preschooler) in 2016 was nearly $85,000. This would require an hourly wage of $42.46. But in Washington State, only 14% of jobs pay more than $40 an hour.

    ~snip~


    The minimal survival budget is $85,000 per year?

    Am thinking maybe the standard of living expectations are set a little too high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    Both of those (you blaming the students for poor education notwithstanding) are part of what is referred to as "wealth inequality".
    You should know the truth about our public education, then you would understand why were behind the rest of the industrial nations.

    Kids are GIVEN diplomas that hadnt been in school a 100 days year, because each kid represents 15,000 or more to the school whether they are there or not. They hand them diplomas and they cant read a paragragh at high school level because it makes their graduation statistics look just fantastic and creates an illusion of success.

    Public schools are giving diplomas to near morons that hardly attended, never paid attention and never passed a test. I KNOW THAT thats not opinion.
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