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    Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians

    Unsurprising, actually. You can't just undo 2000 plus year of Christian heritage.

    Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians

    ...These twin statements are generalizations, but they capture the essence of a fascinating finding in a new study about Christian identity in Western Europe. By surveying almost 25,000 people in 15 countries in the region, and comparing the results with data previously gathered in the U.S., the Pew Research Center discovered three things.

    First, researchers confirmed the widely known fact that, overall, Americans are much more religious than Western Europeans. They gauged religious commitment using standard questions, including “Do you believe in God with absolute certainty?” and “Do you pray daily?”

    Second, the researchers found that American “nones”—those who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular—are more religious than European nones. The notion that religiously unaffiliated people can be religious at all may seem contradictory, but if you disaffiliate from organized religion it does not necessarily mean you’ve sworn off belief in God, say, or prayer.

    The third finding reported in the study is by far the most striking. As it turns out, “American ‘nones’ are as religious as—or even more religious than—Christians in several European countries, including France, Germany, and the U.K.”

    “That was a surprise,” Neha Sahgal, the lead researcher on the study, told me. “That’s the comparison that’s fascinating to me.” She highlighted the fact that whereas only 23 percent of European Christians say they believe in God with absolute certainty, 27 percent of American nones say this.

    America is a country so suffused with faith that religious attributes abound even among the secular....
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    If someone is not religious, but believes in God, they are not an atheist.

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    Many atheists tend to substitute a religious belief in God with a religious belief in the state. Soviet Russia and Communist China are two good examples.
    Power always thinks it has a great soul, and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak. And that it is doing God service when it is violating all His laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Unsurprising, actually. You can't just undo 2000 plus year of Christian heritage.

    Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians

    In fact swearing off major religions may be a clear sign of real spirituality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    In fact swearing off major religions may be a clear sign of real spirituality.
    Spirituality lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    Spirituality lol
    I realize Catholics don't understand that word but the rest of the world does.

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    Atheists I've known tend to be conscientiously moral people, but I think they are far more easy to stampede or panic into stupid decisions than are those who have a foundation -- a rock -- outside their own judgement upon which to anchor. Christ, for example. Once an atheist is no longer certain of himself, he might do just about anything.

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    If you deny God, you become God -- at least to the extent you are able.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Common Sense View Post
    If someone is not religious, but believes in God, they are not an atheist.

    Agnostics . I guess I'm one of those. But according to some organized religion is the only path to a higher being.

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    A rough analogy might be a soldier in the field during war: 1 with a general to guide him come hell or high water, and; 2 without anyone to guide him at all.

    It can be done, certainly, if the conditions are right, but the conditions can become very adverse -- horrible even.

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