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Thread: Opioids Are Now Responsible for 1 in 5 Deaths Among Young Adults

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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    That is the claim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Your argument makes some sense in terms of pills, but not in terms of Heroin. Heroin addicts need a high percentage of the lethal dose or LD just to get high. But they cannot know the purity as it is illegal. If that illegality limited access it might be worth it. But it doesn't. Imagine drinking all night and having no way of knowing if you were ingesting weak beer or grain alcohol until someone else found you the next day.
    But they start with the pill. Correct me if I am wrong, but in USA is very common to give an opioid for a headache. While in Spain, it would be the very last resource, and even in those cases it would be avoided.

    Every opioid even in pill form is extremely addictive, and even starting with this, then you get addicted and you need stronger dosis, and it is when you go for heroine. And then you are finally screwed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    People with long term chronic pain can be on opiods for years, even decades.
    And maybe it generates an addiction to it.

    Opiods are extremely strong and only should be used in very extreme cases. For long term chronic pain there are other drugs that can be as useful and not as addictive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    And maybe it generates an addiction to it.

    Opiods are extremely strong and only should be used in very extreme cases. For long term chronic pain there are other drugs that can be as useful and not as addictive.
    The US is trying to move away from opiods. For people who have taken them for long periods of time- they do tend to get addicted, but pain management doctors call it a dependence rather than an addiction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kilgram View Post
    But they start with the pill. Correct me if I am wrong, but in USA is very common to give an opioid for a headache. While in Spain, it would be the very last resource, and even in those cases it would be avoided.

    Every opioid even in pill form is extremely addictive, and even starting with this, then you get addicted and you need stronger dosis, and it is when you go for heroine. And then you are finally screwed.
    No, it is not common to give an opioid for a headache.
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