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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    On the day that he commutes the life sentence of an African American grandmother in prison he's called a racist. Go figure. I abhor the use of:

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    I thought that we wouldn't see it much now that The One is gone:

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    When you resort to using the race card, the muslim card, the gay card or the woman card, clearly you are losing:

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    PICK A CARD, ANY CARD….
    A woman who, not so coincidentally, was convicted of money laundering - the same charge facing Manafort. He's trying to set a precedent, and it's not a good one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    I see the usual suspects have chimed in with the usual see no evil hear no evil speak no evil responses.

    Donald Trump cynically uses race. Do you think he wallowed in that racist birther drivel because he really believed it? It was grandstanding for the purpose of building a political base within the Republican Party.

    Trump may be stupid (and he often is), but he understands that making black people a villain will energize a segment (large) of his 40 percent support,

    What on earth does a protest over police brutality have to do with "disrespecting" those who died in the military? Nothing at all. Trump has dragged the emphasis of the protest , which was legitimate, and turned it into an unpatriotic attack on Mom , country, and apple pie.

    I see that a lot of people seem to have left this forum. Not a surprise considering the ignorant, Trump loving nature of the replies to this article.

    The correlation to Trump's enthusiasm for the racist birther theme and his creation of the now racist anti-NFL players theme is obvious once intelligent people consider it.
    Or perhaps the unthinking attacks...?

    How about keep with recent history and attack policy position rather that personalities?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    I see your paranoia and lack of perception is still intact.
    Perhaps you can address topics and not directly attack members. Or not. That is what you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Perhaps you can address topics and not directly attack members. Or not. That is what you do.
    You made the ridiculous allegation that I may be being paid to be anti-Trump, which is an attack on me. Own your own words.
    "Trump’s say-so is meaningless. Not only is he a person who makes factual misstatements and lies, but he’s a person who has gotten ahead in life through extensive use of bullshit, leaving in his wake a trail of broken promises."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    I think there is considerable evidence that Trump has racist leanings, but I think he uses race to achieve his purposes more than he exhibits overt racism himself. He is pandering to the segment of white nationalism and white grievance that may have provided him with the edge that got him elected.

    And when your approval rating is anchored at around 40%, with most of those being irrational evangelical Christians, you have to keep the segments of your base interested and enthusiastic. This ridiculous fake outrage over blacks kneeling during the national anthem is designed to foment race discord.

    No. Trump does not have racist leanings. The MSM claims that, and lemmings suck it up.

    In reality, the MSM hates American nationalism thus they hate Trump. So they type up anti-Trump articles and slack-jaws parrot it.

    Trump just commuted the sentence of Alice Marie Johnson. Yep, Trump is a racist pos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    He uses these issues to rile his racist, uneducated base in order to deflect from the scandals OK f his own regime.

    That is what the MSM demands you parrot. Good job.
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    Nigroes who kneel...Are they getting a bad rap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcfieldz View Post
    Nigroes who kneel...Are they getting a bad rap?
    Donald Trump loves you.
    "Trump’s say-so is meaningless. Not only is he a person who makes factual misstatements and lies, but he’s a person who has gotten ahead in life through extensive use of bullshit, leaving in his wake a trail of broken promises."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    Donald Trump's Race War

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    President* Trump is stoking racial animosity over the wholly invented "national anthem" issue , as a strategy to motivate his base for the fall congressional and US senate elections.


    We know with certainty that Trump is not above using race as a basis for his political popularity. Back at the turn of 2010-2011, Trump was considering a run for the presidency as a Republican in 2012. It was something he had been talking about for years and years, but by 2012 he would be 66 years old, and 70 in 2016, the upper limit of the age at which anyone had seriously run for president. So in 2011 Trump was looking for a way to "up his game" and create a base in the Republican party from which to launch a bid for the GOP nomination in 2012.


    He landed on the idea of reviving the then fading concept of "birtherism" , the tea partyish claim that President Obama was not a real American, but rather a Kenyan, and even moreso, son of a Muslim, schooled in a Muslim country. Over the course of a few months Trump became the most prominent birther in the country, mainly due to his extensive contacts in the mainstream media. Birther nuts like Joe Arpaio and Orly Taitz couldnt get their convoluted conspiracies about Obama's birth certificate onto the network morning shows, but Donald Trump could. He went on the Today show and told Meredith Vierra that he was compiling incredible information that hinted that the birther claims were true. He said he was sending a team of private detectives to Hawaii to finally learn the truth. He demanded on national television to see President Obama's long form birth certificate.


    For awhile Trump's efforts were paying off and he was gaining popularity among the nation's racists and xenophobes and the possibility of a strong run for the nomination in 2012 was developing. But then Obama threw Trump for a loop when he actually released his long form birth certificate. Suddenly Trump seemed misinformed and petty and a run for national office was out the window.
    Trump was forced to bide his time and regroup his political ambitions down the road.


    So we KNOW that Donald Trump was and is more than willing to cynically exploit racial animosity for personal political purposes.


    The NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick began to kneel during the playing of the national anthem before his games at the beginning of the 2016 season. Kaepernick told reporters that he was protesting police brutality against blacks , including of course the shooting of unarmed blacks by police officers in various locations around the country. It wasn't long before other players joined in and eventually a number of NFL teams had players who knelt during the anthem before at least one game.


    In September of 2017, when the new NFL season began and some players were still kneeling , President* Trump referred to the players as "sonsofbitches" who were disrespecting the American flag. Over the course of time he would tweak and refine his message on the "issue" to claim that the players were disrespecting the US military and all those who had died defending the country. Recently Trump has said that those who won't stand up during the national anthem don't even belong in America and should leave.


    Donald Trump used, and is using, race to divide America and to maintain his roster of "deplorables" , the conglomeration of so called "super-patriots", anti-government types, conscious and unconscious white nationalists, and assorted others who respond to "us" vs "them" appeals, in order to have a solid voting bloc for his interests in the upcoming 2018 congressional and senate elections. It has been reported in the past few days that Trump has told associates he will keep up his ranting about the national anthem through the rest of this year. If it works politically, we can assume it will continue past this year.


    The NFL players have specifically said that the protests have not been about the flag, the military, or US war dead. There is absolutely no reason to believe that NFL players are any less patriotic than any other segment of Americans. But for Trump's purposes, there is a good reason to say they are un-American. Almost all of those who have knelt, and 70% of the league on the whole, are black. Trump is back in 2011 stoking up racial animosity just like he did when he said he had sent detectives to Hawaii to uncover the "truth" about the nation's first black president.


    And it is working. I have seen on this forum a number of comments from right wingers that are disparaging remarks about "blacks" in relation to the national anthem.


    Trump is using race to protect and advance his political interests. It is as plain and simple as that. He's done it before in an obvious and bold way, and he is doing it again.

    Be prepared to be bombarded with tiki torches and personal attacks, because this is the equivalent of party crashing a cross burning.
    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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