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    Donald Trump's Race War

    Donald Trump's Race War

    by MarkIII


    President* Trump is stoking racial animosity over the wholly invented "national anthem" issue , as a strategy to motivate his base for the fall congressional and US senate elections.


    We know with certainty that Trump is not above using race as a basis for his political popularity. Back at the turn of 2010-2011, Trump was considering a run for the presidency as a Republican in 2012. It was something he had been talking about for years and years, but by 2012 he would be 66 years old, and 70 in 2016, the upper limit of the age at which anyone had seriously run for president. So in 2011 Trump was looking for a way to "up his game" and create a base in the Republican party from which to launch a bid for the GOP nomination in 2012.


    He landed on the idea of reviving the then fading concept of "birtherism" , the tea partyish claim that President Obama was not a real American, but rather a Kenyan, and even moreso, son of a Muslim, schooled in a Muslim country. Over the course of a few months Trump became the most prominent birther in the country, mainly due to his extensive contacts in the mainstream media. Birther nuts like Joe Arpaio and Orly Taitz couldnt get their convoluted conspiracies about Obama's birth certificate onto the network morning shows, but Donald Trump could. He went on the Today show and told Meredith Vierra that he was compiling incredible information that hinted that the birther claims were true. He said he was sending a team of private detectives to Hawaii to finally learn the truth. He demanded on national television to see President Obama's long form birth certificate.


    For awhile Trump's efforts were paying off and he was gaining popularity among the nation's racists and xenophobes and the possibility of a strong run for the nomination in 2012 was developing. But then Obama threw Trump for a loop when he actually released his long form birth certificate. Suddenly Trump seemed misinformed and petty and a run for national office was out the window.
    Trump was forced to bide his time and regroup his political ambitions down the road.


    So we KNOW that Donald Trump was and is more than willing to cynically exploit racial animosity for personal political purposes.


    The NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick began to kneel during the playing of the national anthem before his games at the beginning of the 2016 season. Kaepernick told reporters that he was protesting police brutality against blacks , including of course the shooting of unarmed blacks by police officers in various locations around the country. It wasn't long before other players joined in and eventually a number of NFL teams had players who knelt during the anthem before at least one game.


    In September of 2017, when the new NFL season began and some players were still kneeling , President* Trump referred to the players as "sonsofbitches" who were disrespecting the American flag. Over the course of time he would tweak and refine his message on the "issue" to claim that the players were disrespecting the US military and all those who had died defending the country. Recently Trump has said that those who won't stand up during the national anthem don't even belong in America and should leave.


    Donald Trump used, and is using, race to divide America and to maintain his roster of "deplorables" , the conglomeration of so called "super-patriots", anti-government types, conscious and unconscious white nationalists, and assorted others who respond to "us" vs "them" appeals, in order to have a solid voting bloc for his interests in the upcoming 2018 congressional and senate elections. It has been reported in the past few days that Trump has told associates he will keep up his ranting about the national anthem through the rest of this year. If it works politically, we can assume it will continue past this year.


    The NFL players have specifically said that the protests have not been about the flag, the military, or US war dead. There is absolutely no reason to believe that NFL players are any less patriotic than any other segment of Americans. But for Trump's purposes, there is a good reason to say they are un-American. Almost all of those who have knelt, and 70% of the league on the whole, are black. Trump is back in 2011 stoking up racial animosity just like he did when he said he had sent detectives to Hawaii to uncover the "truth" about the nation's first black president.


    And it is working. I have seen on this forum a number of comments from right wingers that are disparaging remarks about "blacks" in relation to the national anthem.


    Trump is using race to protect and advance his political interests. It is as plain and simple as that. He's done it before in an obvious and bold way, and he is doing it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    Donald Trump's Race War

    by MarkIII


    President* Trump is stoking racial animosity over the wholly invented "national anthem" issue , as a strategy to motivate his base for the fall congressional and US senate elections.


    We know with certainty that Trump is not above using race as a basis for his political popularity. Back at the turn of 2010-2011, Trump was considering a run for the presidency as a Republican in 2012. It was something he had been talking about for years and years, but by 2012 he would be 66 years old, and 70 in 2016, the upper limit of the age at which anyone had seriously run for president. So in 2011 Trump was looking for a way to "up his game" and create a base in the Republican party from which to launch a bid for the GOP nomination in 2012.


    He landed on the idea of reviving the then fading concept of "birtherism" , the tea partyish claim that President Obama was not a real American, but rather a Kenyan, and even moreso, son of a Muslim, schooled in a Muslim country. Over the course of a few months Trump became the most prominent birther in the country, mainly due to his extensive contacts in the mainstream media. Birther nuts like Joe Arpaio and Orly Taitz couldnt get their convoluted conspiracies about Obama's birth certificate onto the network morning shows, but Donald Trump could. He went on the Today show and told Meredith Vierra that he was compiling incredible information that hinted that the birther claims were true. He said he was sending a team of private detectives to Hawaii to finally learn the truth. He demanded on national television to see President Obama's long form birth certificate.


    For awhile Trump's efforts were paying off and he was gaining popularity among the nation's racists and xenophobes and the possibility of a strong run for the nomination in 2012 was developing. But then Obama threw Trump for a loop when he actually released his long form birth certificate. Suddenly Trump seemed misinformed and petty and a run for national office was out the window.
    Trump was forced to bide his time and regroup his political ambitions down the road.


    So we KNOW that Donald Trump was and is more than willing to cynically exploit racial animosity for personal political purposes.


    The NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick began to kneel during the playing of the national anthem before his games at the beginning of the 2016 season. Kaepernick told reporters that he was protesting police brutality against blacks , including of course the shooting of unarmed blacks by police officers in various locations around the country. It wasn't long before other players joined in and eventually a number of NFL teams had players who knelt during the anthem before at least one game.


    In September of 2017, when the new NFL season began and some players were still kneeling , President* Trump referred to the players as "sonsofbitches" who were disrespecting the American flag. Over the course of time he would tweak and refine his message on the "issue" to claim that the players were disrespecting the US military and all those who had died defending the country. Recently Trump has said that those who won't stand up during the national anthem don't even belong in America and should leave.


    Donald Trump used, and is using, race to divide America and to maintain his roster of "deplorables" , the conglomeration of so called "super-patriots", anti-government types, conscious and unconscious white nationalists, and assorted others who respond to "us" vs "them" appeals, in order to have a solid voting bloc for his interests in the upcoming 2018 congressional and senate elections. It has been reported in the past few days that Trump has told associates he will keep up his ranting about the national anthem through the rest of this year. If it works politically, we can assume it will continue past this year.


    The NFL players have specifically said that the protests have not been about the flag, the military, or US war dead. There is absolutely no reason to believe that NFL players are any less patriotic than any other segment of Americans. But for Trump's purposes, there is a good reason to say they are un-American. Almost all of those who have knelt, and 70% of the league on the whole, are black. Trump is back in 2011 stoking up racial animosity just like he did when he said he had sent detectives to Hawaii to uncover the "truth" about the nation's first black president.


    And it is working. I have seen on this forum a number of comments from right wingers that are disparaging remarks about "blacks" in relation to the national anthem.


    Trump is using race to protect and advance his political interests. It is as plain and simple as that. He's done it before in an obvious and bold way, and he is doing it again.

    Anyone who cares to know, knows that Trump's race relations have been inconsistent. He was at one time a landlord that prohibited black tenants and had to be legally forced to rent to non-whites. His father's reputation is associated with Klan activity and a refusal to rent to blacks. Whether he is racist or not, he has no compunctions about benefiting from the racism of others.
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    Exactly when has Trump cited race in this issue?
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    Obama was the most outwardly racist president of my lifetime.

    The race card wont work, give it up no one is paying attention
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark III View Post
    Donald Trump's Race War

    by MarkIII


    President* Trump is stoking racial animosity over the wholly invented "national anthem" issue , as a strategy to motivate his base for the fall congressional and US senate elections.


    We know with certainty that Trump is not above using race as a basis for his political popularity. Back at the turn of 2010-2011, Trump was considering a run for the presidency as a Republican in 2012. It was something he had been talking about for years and years, but by 2012 he would be 66 years old, and 70 in 2016, the upper limit of the age at which anyone had seriously run for president. So in 2011 Trump was looking for a way to "up his game" and create a base in the Republican party from which to launch a bid for the GOP nomination in 2012.


    He landed on the idea of reviving the then fading concept of "birtherism" , the tea partyish claim that President Obama was not a real American, but rather a Kenyan, and even moreso, son of a Muslim, schooled in a Muslim country. Over the course of a few months Trump became the most prominent birther in the country, mainly due to his extensive contacts in the mainstream media. Birther nuts like Joe Arpaio and Orly Taitz couldnt get their convoluted conspiracies about Obama's birth certificate onto the network morning shows, but Donald Trump could. He went on the Today show and told Meredith Vierra that he was compiling incredible information that hinted that the birther claims were true. He said he was sending a team of private detectives to Hawaii to finally learn the truth. He demanded on national television to see President Obama's long form birth certificate.


    For awhile Trump's efforts were paying off and he was gaining popularity among the nation's racists and xenophobes and the possibility of a strong run for the nomination in 2012 was developing. But then Obama threw Trump for a loop when he actually released his long form birth certificate. Suddenly Trump seemed misinformed and petty and a run for national office was out the window.
    Trump was forced to bide his time and regroup his political ambitions down the road.


    So we KNOW that Donald Trump was and is more than willing to cynically exploit racial animosity for personal political purposes.


    The NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick began to kneel during the playing of the national anthem before his games at the beginning of the 2016 season. Kaepernick told reporters that he was protesting police brutality against blacks , including of course the shooting of unarmed blacks by police officers in various locations around the country. It wasn't long before other players joined in and eventually a number of NFL teams had players who knelt during the anthem before at least one game.


    In September of 2017, when the new NFL season began and some players were still kneeling , President* Trump referred to the players as "sonsofbitches" who were disrespecting the American flag. Over the course of time he would tweak and refine his message on the "issue" to claim that the players were disrespecting the US military and all those who had died defending the country. Recently Trump has said that those who won't stand up during the national anthem don't even belong in America and should leave.


    Donald Trump used, and is using, race to divide America and to maintain his roster of "deplorables" , the conglomeration of so called "super-patriots", anti-government types, conscious and unconscious white nationalists, and assorted others who respond to "us" vs "them" appeals, in order to have a solid voting bloc for his interests in the upcoming 2018 congressional and senate elections. It has been reported in the past few days that Trump has told associates he will keep up his ranting about the national anthem through the rest of this year. If it works politically, we can assume it will continue past this year.


    The NFL players have specifically said that the protests have not been about the flag, the military, or US war dead. There is absolutely no reason to believe that NFL players are any less patriotic than any other segment of Americans. But for Trump's purposes, there is a good reason to say they are un-American. Almost all of those who have knelt, and 70% of the league on the whole, are black. Trump is back in 2011 stoking up racial animosity just like he did when he said he had sent detectives to Hawaii to uncover the "truth" about the nation's first black president.


    And it is working. I have seen on this forum a number of comments from right wingers that are disparaging remarks about "blacks" in relation to the national anthem.


    Trump is using race to protect and advance his political interests. It is as plain and simple as that. He's done it before in an obvious and bold way, and he is doing it again.

    o m g...........this is a circular argument without proof. Pure speculation is NOT the Truth. You are intolerant, and a Trump-o-phobic.
    He has done nothing that supports your claim. You are spouting rhetoric straight from Hillary's playbook.
    He has deprive no American citizen of a damned thing. he has hampered no one since he's been in office.
    I don't see you doing anything or saying anything about how Hillary tried to rig the election in her favor.
    I have not seen you post a thing about how Clinton has depleted the DNC war chest, which is now indebt to the tune of almost 2 million dollars.
    I have not seen you rant about how Clinton and Brazille cheat on the debates.
    Jesus, man, do you love that much corruption?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Exactly when has Trump cited race in this issue?
    Absolutely nothing. The OP is baiting just as Russia did in the 2016 elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Obama was the most outwardly racist president of my lifetime.

    The race card wont work, give it up no one is paying attention
    It is blatant. And like fake news: take something that has happened, and apply it (incorrectly) to something that is occurring now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    It is blatant. And like fake news: take something that has happened, and apply it (incorrectly) to something that is occurring now.
    .........sigh............their brains are misfiring and they don't care. They are Trump-o-phobics and they are the real haters.
    They still won't give us a list of what they've lost since Trump has been in office, while they reap the rewards.
    That is akin to biting the hand that feeds you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cletus View Post
    Exactly when has Trump cited race in this issue?
    Nothing, this is just another hit piece on trump based on hotair
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    .........sigh............their brains are misfiring and they don't care. They are Trump-o-phobics and they are the real haters.
    They still won't give us a list of what they've lost since Trump has been in office, while they reap the rewards.
    That is akin to biting the hand that feeds you.
    And the far left and the never Trumpers demand that you defend Trump as a whole. No.

    I didn't vote for Trump (or any D or R). I like some of what Trump has done. I dislike some of what Trump has done. If I defend Trump against asinine attacks, do not take that as support of Trump. Take it as what it is- an attack against irrational and unintelligent claims and fake news.
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