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    Ben shapiro: We need fathers to teach manliness | opinion

    BY BEN SHAPIRO ON 6/15/18 - Newsweek

    This weekend marks Father’s Day—or, as I have taken to calling it on social media, Second Legal Guardian Of Unspecified Gender Day. Obviously, this is trollery. But it’s not pure trollery: we live in a society that purports to champion fatherhood, but disparages fathering at every turn. We disparage the notion that fathers are necessary; we disparage the unique lessons fathers teach. Because some men in America are trash, too many Americans have decided that the problem is masculinity itself. The result hasn’t been a lessening of male perdition, but an exacerbation of it.


    As it turns out, men do need fathers—and even more importantly, they need fathers who teach what it means to be a man to their children.


    The social science on the necessity of fatherhood is absolutely clear. According to a massive recent Harvard study, the most powerful factor putting young men at risk of criminal behavior and poverty is lack of fathers in the neighborhood—not even fathers in the home, fathers in the neighborhood more generally. A prevalence of responsible men can even help compensate for lack of fathers in the home.


    And it’s not a coincidence that girls from single-mother homes fare far more poorly than girls from two-parent homes. Girls from homes without a father tend to engage in more sexually risky behavior, with higher rates of drug use and dropping out of school.

    Fathers provide a sense of security to their children, but they also model behavior. For boys, fathers model and teach how to be a protector; for girls, fathers model and teach how men ought to protect them.


    There is a large biological component to all of this. Men are, by nature, bigger and stronger than women on average. They are also more prone to violence and more aggressive. This means that men either build and protect, or they destroy. Good men must teach their sons the art of manliness, or societies crumble. Masculinity can indeed be toxic, but only if it isn’t channeled into defense of self and others.


    The #MeToo movement says men must be taught not to rape. But no good man has ever been taught not to rape. Good men are taught, generally by a male authority figure, to affirmatively stand up for women, to prevent harm. It’s not enough to teach boys “not to rape.” Boys must be taught to fight rapists. More here.
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    I tend to agree with some of Shapiro's points. Certainly, all children model behavior and the same-sex parent can have the most influence over a child, for good or for bad. I think that some single women can raise boys well, but many cannot. They can't teach what they don't know. That's also true of many men. It's a conundrum. Raising a boy can be challenging, depending on the nature of the boy. Some boys are particularly headstrong and women don't always know how to respond effectively. I've seen it many times, even in two-parent families where the mother can't even really get the boy's attention, but the father just has to say two words and the bad behavior stops.
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    I just read that there are more single mother homes than ever before in our history, Its become an epidemic.

    We have education teaching things that should never be in a classroom sucking up what little time teachers have to teach with indoctrination techniques to mold minds.

    We have a movement in this country to be genderless which in itself is degrading the relationship between men and women. There are transexual males destroying Female Sports, young women train HARD and work like dogs to compete to get unfairly beaten by genderless "MALES"

    We have a movement to "convince" women they can do whatever a man can do apples for apples, that is pure garbage and physiologically impossible.

    We have Major corporations passing rules that you cant "LOOK" at a coworker for over 5 seconds. This country is categorically being picked apart by stupid $#@! created by 20% of the population.

    Every generation Parents get dumber and more worthless and that generation of kids get worse.

    Giving away hs diplomas to kids that cant read 4th grade level, pushing kids through college to create diversity.

    The result of all this is MORE VIOLENCE with young people. Weve watched Europe destroy its quality of life and lose its culture allowing unbridled illegal immigration and Refugees, the same Europe that is in the midst of a war to gain back control of their country and STILL we have those in this country that want us to keep doing the same thing.

    I could go on and on the list is huge of these absurd actions. One day we are going to look back as a country and just like we have before, say Goddamn did we screw this all up, we screwedup our kids but this time its going to be irreversible.

    I wouldnt care Ill be dead before it crashs, but I have kids and grandkids and great grandkids to think about

    Take two toddlers have them pull open their diapers and you will find THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, they dont look alike they dont think alike they dont act alike they dont dress alike they dont walk alike and know what THANK GOD FOR THAT
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shapiro
    There is a large biological component to all of this. Men are, by nature, bigger and stronger than women on average. They are also more prone to violence and more aggressive. This means that men either build and protect, or they destroy. Good men must teach their sons the art of manliness, or societies crumble. Masculinity can indeed be toxic, but only if it isn’t channeled into defense of self and others.
    The first step is channeling that energy into self-control, self-government. Male or female.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The first step is channeling that energy into self-control, self-government. Male or female.
    I agree that children do need to learn self-control and understand what behavior is appropriate and what behavior not. There also has to be recognition of the fact that little boys need to burn energy and be even more physically active than little girls. If that energy is not properly directed into constructive play or other physical but constructive activities, it can become disruptive and/or destructive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    I just read that there are more single mother homes than ever before in our history, Its become an epidemic.

    We have education teaching things that should never be in a classroom sucking up what little time teachers have to teach with indoctrination techniques to mold minds.

    We have a movement in this country to be genderless which in itself is degrading the relationship between men and women. There are transexual males destroying Female Sports, young women train HARD and work like dogs to compete to get unfairly beaten by genderless "MALES"

    We have a movement to "convince" women they can do whatever a man can do apples for apples, that is pure garbage and physiologically impossible.

    We have Major corporations passing rules that you cant "LOOK" at a coworker for over 5 seconds. This country is categorically being picked apart by stupid $#@! created by 20% of the population.

    Every generation Parents get dumber and more worthless and that generation of kids get worse.

    Giving away hs diplomas to kids that cant read 4th grade level, pushing kids through college to create diversity.

    The result of all this is MORE VIOLENCE with young people. Weve watched Europe destroy its quality of life and lose its culture allowing unbridled illegal immigration and Refugees, the same Europe that is in the midst of a war to gain back control of their country and STILL we have those in this country that want us to keep doing the same thing.

    I could go on and on the list is huge of these absurd actions. One day we are going to look back as a country and just like we have before, say Goddamn did we screw this all up, we screwedup our kids but this time its going to be irreversible.

    I wouldnt care Ill be dead before it crashs, but I have kids and grandkids and great grandkids to think about

    Take two toddlers have them pull open their diapers and you will find THEY ARE NOT THE SAME, they dont look alike they dont think alike they dont act alike they dont dress alike they dont walk alike and know what THANK GOD FOR THAT

    Knowing Ben Shapiro somewhat, I'd say you're addressing what he's talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    I just read that there are more single mother homes than ever before in our history, Its become an epidemic.
    That might have been an old study. In fact, that trend is reversing:
    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/si...oar-2018-04-26
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    This is probably the context in which Shapiro argues...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    This is probably the context in which Shapiro argues...

    Can't see it.....got a transcript?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Can't see it.....got a transcript?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAAlFya89aw

    Blurb there reads: "Are male and female one and the same? Or are there real male-female differences rooted in biology? Ashley McGuire, author of 'Sex Scandal: The Drive to Abolish Male and Female,' explains."
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