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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Not really and not even close.....considering a lot of what BO the peep did went against Congress and the Constitution. Which meant half of the country and or more. Oopsie, there goes another one of your Lame excuses.
    You said the US government is America. So that means your attacks on the US government during Obama's presidency were anti-American.

    Way to paint yourself into a corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I'm aware of Paine's religious beliefs and how they hurt his reputation. It proves nothing. It's just a childish attempt to distract from his argument by attacking his character. It's also disgraceful to claim his indispensable contributions to the American revolution were eradicated by his religious beliefs. Without Paine's contributions, there might have been no American revolution and no US government for you to lick its boots.

    If you knew that then you wouldn't have called History.....Garbage.

    According to your own logic, your attacks on the US government during that time were anti-American. It makes no difference if you attacked Republicans or if you agreed with Obama on a couple of things.

    Nice try.....unlike you it wasn't attacking everything and anything for what the country stands for.

    I never said all the US government does is bad. But even if I did, it still wouldn't be anti-American.


    Then perhaps you can show when you were sticking up for the country and those that served it.



    Yea, centuries before the US government existed. So how can the US government be America if America existed before the US government?

    It was already explained out to you. Hence the next part of your argument wherein once again you fall back on those mean ole men that pick on you. (validating your victim status.)
    Answer: It cannot.

    To even suggest there is no distinction between a country and its government is basically communist. It's amazing that you would try to argue such an anti-American position while ironically and hypocritically accusing me of being anti-American. The delusion of your position is so layered as to be dizzying.

    Again there is a distinction.....but then that it wasn't you do and you get called on it wherever you go.


    That is certainly the THEORY of how the US government is supposed to work, but only school children and naive old men actually believe that anymore. In REALITY, US elections are stacked against the little guy, to the point of being rigged. Just look what happened to Bernie, for example. His own party machinery conspired against him to deny him the nomination. And that is why approximately 90 million Americans abstained from voting, because they rightly perceive the political system as a fraud. Trump, who won the election, only managed to get around 60 million votes. So in fact there are far more Americans who think as I do. We're the real silent majority. And it's only a matter of time before we shove you dinosaurs aside.

    Careful now, my raptor mentality also includes that instinct which isn't about me and my full belly.

    I dump on the government because I love the country. The government is harming the country with its lies and corruption. You spend all your time and energy trying to defend those lies and corrupt practices, which actually makes you the one who is anti-American.


    And yet its clear you can't figure out the difference in attacking a party, and its ideology which has been proven to be a failure for the country and its people.



    Nope, it's just angry old men like you who accuse me of being anti-American. And you do it because you cannot refute my actual arguments. Attacks on my character are all you have. It's pathetic.

    And we both know you have been put in check by those young Repubs and middle aged Repubs. Let alone Older Repubs. Also you already know that I can and have done so with links that back up my play. Wherein then you run away crying once again about mean old Republicans. Then start doing all that preaching that you do around here.

    Bring him on. But he's not a libertarian, obviously, if he believes there is no distinction between the government and the country. Only anti-American commies believe that.

    Larry Elder is his name..... and oh, I have given him the link to the site. He is a real Libertarian unlike your faking to be one. But then you would know about those Commies that you aspire to be like, and act like.

    But then I don't need him to show you for what you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You said the US government is America. So that means your attacks on the US government during Obama's presidency were anti-American.

    Way to paint yourself into a corner.
    Yet as usual you still can't figure out the part about.....its not me that is viewed as being anti American. That it is you taking center stage and that spotlight for being Anti American. Still unable to figure out how you yourself, put you into that position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    You said the US government is America. So that means your attacks on the US government during Obama's presidency were anti-American.

    Way to paint yourself into a corner.
    If one communicates disagreement with an administration's policy ideas or a law passed by the legislature is that an attack upon the US government and un-American?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    The last I checked, it is American citizens who elect our government officials. (The latter do not just seize power, arbitrarily.)

    So any distinction between "America" and "the US government" is really a distinction without a difference...
    Ethereal trying to weasel himself out of yet another colossal bone up statement all we got going on in here far as I can tell. See ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Only anti-American commies believe that [there is no distinction between the US government and this country].
    Gee, I never really thought that a center-right person (such as myself) might qualify as a "comm[unist]."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Actually, they're US citizens. And between 2008 and 2010, those citizens voted for Democrats to control the Congress and the Presidency. And during that time, you and your fellow Republicans absolutely savaged the US government.
    Actually, we "savaged" those who were temporarily in control of the levers of government. (That is not even close to "savag[ing]" our government per se.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    As I've already pointed out, you're not really a conservative.
    It would probably be more accurate to observe that I am not a libertarian (which you--apparently--equate with being a true "conservative."

    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    In reality, you're a progressive in the mold of Roosevelt and Wilson, which is only a few degrees away from being an international socialist.
    When all else fails, just resort to the insults, I suppose...

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