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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    We should mine the asteroids where they are.
    I don't have a problem with mining on the moon.
    I tend to agree, but it's worth thinking hard about the potential ramifications.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I tend to agree, but it's worth thinking hard about the potential ramifications.
    Of course. But it would take centuries or longer to drastically affect the core of the Moon.
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    Posted by donttread:

    The atmosphere is of course limitless and puny human activity could never do any harm by changing it's chemical composition, right? We have to stop burning $#@! to produce energy. Anyone who's ever been on a sun porch on a sunny day knows part of the answer. Transportation of energy causes megacorp profits, dependence and a huge loss of energy.
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    We are heading in that direction with science and advancements; but it would be folly to go backwards to avoid fossil fuels in the present.
    So, this is where are found the vegan tents. You are headed where again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    So, this is where are found the vegan tents. You are headed where again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I tend to agree, but it's worth thinking hard about the potential ramifications.
    What are the ramifications of mining to moon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    So, this is where are found the vegan tents. You are headed where again?

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    You do make me chuckle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just AnotherPerson View Post

    There are those in the world who have big plans for the near future. It is all about money like it always is. They have their eyes set on mining the moon, and not only that, they have designs to mine asteroids and drag them near the earth in order to have easy access to them.

    Mega corporations are planning on mining asteroids. No they are not going to travel to the asteroids and mine them there. They are going to drag them close to earth. https://www.news.com.au/technology/s...2f1540cba84c0f This is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard of. We monitor asteroids in hopes that one does not come into our orbit and threaten our earth. But we are going to bring them in. This could potentially be disastrous. Not to mention what if one crashes into our earth. If we move things in space we can cause chain reactions. We can cause other more larger asteroids to change course and be attracted to earth.
    Sometimes if we have a great idea we should thoroughly think it through completely before venturing.

    I have had many ideas, and if I see one with harm I will keep it to myself, or remove it from the drawing board. If that were not enough, if we mine countless asteroids then we will add to the mass of the earth in a faster than natural way. If the Japan earthquake caused a slowing of the rotation what could the repercussions be for adding mass to the earth? There is a lot to consider... https://www.marketwatch.com/story/as...rth-2013-01-08 https://www.wired.com/2011/10/asteroid-moving/

    Here is another way that we could turn our earth into a mars like planet. We have got plans to mine the moon https://www.seeker.com/space/explora...-its-not-alone So does that sound harmless? Here is what I mean by we should look deeply at our ideas before we act consider all the possible consequences.

    The moon is the heart beat of the earth. The earth is the way it is because of the moon. The moon orbits the earth and it tugs on the earth as it goes around it squeezes it, that is the reason why we have the tides, the gravitational pull is so strong it lifts the oceans. It is like a heart. It keeps the mantle dynamic and keeps our earth active it controls our weather and tides. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_t...effect_weather

    If you deeply look you can see how this makes all like possible on earth. If we do mine the moon we will take that part of the equation out. We will remove yet another one of our conditions for life. The mass of the moon will change, and it is possible the moon will move away from the earth faster than it already is. https://www.universetoday.com/112450...on-leaving-us/

    So there is a lot to consider when we decide to use up resources just because we can. What harm will come to living beings of today and of the future? It is something we should take seriously.



    Wait, Asteroid ownership is a thing? and it's legal? Good grief! What a stupid idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    The atmosphere is of course limitless and puny human activity could never do any harm by changing it's chemical composition, right? We have to stop burning $#@! to produce energy. Anyone who's ever been on a sun porch on a sunny day knows part of the answer. Transportation of energy causes megacorp profits, dependence and a huge loss of energy.
    You $#@! that there's too much CO2 and then $#@! when we have a plan to take it out. You just want to $#@!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Because of man's arrogance in the face of nature. "Oh look we can make heat and energy from this oil, it will never pollute a vast planet and we can never use enough of it to make it scarce" "Trash problem? What trash problem, dump it in the sea it will all dissolve in it's vastness" Centuries earlier Europe said we can cut these trees down and make energy there are too many of them for us to make a dent in them"
    It usually doesn't end well and the OP is right we would literally be adding to the mass of the earth and we have no idea what effects that could cause.
    Mining the other bodies in the solar system is just another cop out to developing sustainable lifestyles and only a delay. Trying to change the orbits of asteroids is a very bad idea.
    Adding to the mass of the Earth? Wow, another Einstein.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    It usually doesn't end well and the OP is right we would literally be adding to the mass of the earth and we have no idea what effects that could cause.
    Mining the other bodies in the solar system is just another cop out to developing sustainable lifestyles and only a delay. Trying to change the orbits of asteroids is a very bad idea.
    I created a sustainable lifestyle. Have you?
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