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    What would an automated world look like in terms of shorter work weeks?

    So when my youngest ( nearly 28) is my age ( not 28) , if we had made a serious movement towards an AI work force the human work force work week should be getting shorter but would they still get their time's equivlent of 40 hours pay? More? Less?
    Would the upward and downwards transfers of wealth and cash continue? Would the country look like utopia or Idiocracy?
    Who's answer on a another thread brought this question to mind.

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    Other jobs would emerge. People would have to have the foresight and drive to learn the new skills and break into new markets.
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    We already live in an automated world. There will always be plenty of work for people who choose to work. The ones who chose not to should go hungry.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.

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    Automation makes workers more productive and in many cases saves their bodies from the abuses of manual labor. Go home less tired and wore out and have a back and knees that still works when you get old. Other than that things would have to balance out if the "rich" want to stay rich. Someone has to buy their products and services and they have to have the means to do so. Unless the "rich" plan to kill all of us non rich off and rely on machines to serve their every need.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Automation makes workers more productive and in many cases saves their bodies from the abuses of manual labor. Go home less tired and wore out and have a back and knees that still works when you get old. Other than that things would have to balance out if the "rich" want to stay rich. Someone has to buy their products and services and they have to have the means to do so. Unless the "rich" plan to kill all of us non rich off and rely on machines to serve their every need.
    People are being displaced on a daily basis and often now are taking poorer paying jobs in the service industry that has not yet been as automated. Employment numbers don't tell the whole story. A lot of the former middle class is no longer part of the middle class. I have a friend who is a receptionist. She's now 57 and her employer is considering automating her position. She has no pension plan and modest investments because she never made all that much money and half of her income goes to paying her rent. She's not a shopaholic nor does she eat out. She has family, so she will never live on the street, but at her age, another job won't come easily.
    "The difference between what we do and what we are capable of doing would suffice to solve most of the world’s problems.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Other jobs would emerge. People would have to have the foresight and drive to learn the new skills and break into new markets.
    Then what's the point? If we can't have more leisure time why automate at all? Megacorp profits? Also we don't have enough good jobs as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    We already live in an automated world. There will always be plenty of work for people who choose to work. The ones who chose not to should go hungry.
    Again we don't have enough good jobs or even full time jobs now,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don View Post
    Automation makes workers more productive and in many cases saves their bodies from the abuses of manual labor. Go home less tired and wore out and have a back and knees that still works when you get old. Other than that things would have to balance out if the "rich" want to stay rich. Someone has to buy their products and services and they have to have the means to do so. Unless the "rich" plan to kill all of us non rich off and rely on machines to serve their every need.


    Yes so we can go to the gym to wreck our bodies instead of a medium pace exercise at work for 8 hours?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    People are being displaced on a daily basis and often now are taking poorer paying jobs in the service industry that has not yet been as automated. Employment numbers don't tell the whole story. A lot of the former middle class is no longer part of the middle class. I have a friend who is a receptionist. She's now 57 and her employer is considering automating her position. She has no pension plan and modest investments because she never made all that much money and half of her income goes to paying her rent. She's not a shopaholic nor does she eat out. She has family, so she will never live on the street, but at her age, another job won't come easily.

    Unemployment is not so much the problem as under employment is

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    Quote Originally Posted by donttread View Post
    Again we don't have enough good jobs or even full time jobs now,
    The unemployment rate is 3.8%.

    If you don't like any of the available jobs make one yourself.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.

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