Canadians are one in a million -- while waiting for medical treatment

[Tahuyaman]

... there is nothing that the Koch brothers support that is hate based propaganda.

That is correct. The Koch brothers do not support hate based propoganda.

[Captdon]

Translation?

Translation: I don't know Jack$#@! but I can confuse the thread.

[Common]

Canadians are one in a million --....

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That's what @Ethereal's wife said about him. He's one in a million.

[Beevee]

The population of Canada is 36.2m, all entitled to health insurance.
38m Americans have no health cover whatsoever and a further 44m Americans have limited health cover.
Facts, not fiction and/or American propaganda.

[Chris]

The population of Canada is 36.2m, all entitled to health insurance.
38m Americans have no health cover whatsoever and a further 44m Americans have limited health cover.
Facts, not fiction and/or American propaganda.

Insurance is not health care.

All Americans are treated.

We understand it's not free.

[Beevee]

Insurance is not health care.

All Americans are treated.

We understand it's not free.

Sure isn't for you. Your premiums pay for those who can't. And you have no choice but to accept that to ensure you are covered.

[Chris]

Sure isn't for you. Your premiums pay for those who can't. And you have no choice but to accept that to ensure you are covered.

Yes, I understand that. In our system, those who pay for health insurance pay higher fees and prices to subsidize those who don't. Medicare and Medicaid set low prices. Doctors and hospitals shift the difference to managed-care negotiated prices, and the rest to those who pay.

Your system is not free though I've known many a Canadian exclaim your healthcare is free. Balony, you pay for it in taxes.

And guess what, your healthcare costs, while lower than the US's, is rising at the same rate.

[Abby08]

Yes, I understand that. In our system, those who pay for health insurance pay higher fees and prices to subsidize those who don't. Medicare and Medicaid set low prices. Doctors and hospitals shift the difference to managed-care negotiated prices, and the rest to those who pay.

Your system is not free though I've known many a Canadian exclaim your healthcare is free. Balony, you pay for it in taxes.

And guess what, your healthcare costs, while lower than the US's, is rising at the same rate.

Plus, many Canadians come to the U.S for treatments they either can't get in Canada, or, have to wait a year or more for.

[Chris]

All that said, there are some aspects of Canadian Healthcare that are, imo, admirable.

One is that it's not controlled by the federal government but by each province, which would amount to states down here). Thus each province can try different approaches, experiment.

Two, built into the system is feedback from consumers of health care to the province. Thus the people have a voice in what happens. There are consequences to decisions made by the provinces.

(Based on research admittedly a few years old. I knew a Canadian who'd toured European healthcare systems and helped design the Canadian system. So correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Beevee]

Yes, I understand that. In our system, those who pay for health insurance pay higher fees and prices to subsidize those who don't. Medicare and Medicaid set low prices. Doctors and hospitals shift the difference to managed-care negotiated prices, and the rest to those who pay.

Your system is not free though I've known many a Canadian exclaim your healthcare is free. Balony, you pay for it in taxes.

And guess what, your healthcare costs, while lower than the US's, is rising at the same rate.

Of course we pay for health care with taxation. But treatment is not charged at the point of delivery nor does a diagnosis limit the treatment supplied.