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    If you need immediate medical treatment, you get it. The priority system works - I have never known anyone who has waited for treatment or surgery to the point that it made their condition worse. I have never heard of a cancer patient, and I know way too many, who have not had immediate treatment, for example. Personally, I have experienced some waits but I have also been shuffled ahead if my problem was more serious.

    It's also not really the "Canadian system". Each province has a different system, based on the Canada Health Act's five principles - which each province interprets differently, including some provinces who opt to have a mixed public-private system. I pretty much automatically assume someone is an idiot when they talk about the "Canadian system". My experience as a person from Ontario is going to be vastly different than that of someone from Alberta, or Nunavut, or Prince Edward Island.

    Regardless, most provinces have been making strides towards addressing wait times and succeeding in many cases. The average ER wait time was down to 3 hours the last time I was in Ontario long enough to need medical treatment. I have spent far longer waiting in a US ER waiting rooms. They really don't differ much in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exotix View Post
    You have a point ... hey, get rid of all insurance so everyone can pay their own way through life.
    Why would you want to eliminate insurance? I should be able to purchase the type and amount of insurance I can afford. I shouldn't be required to help you pay for insurance you can't afford though.

    Also, I should not be required by law to purchase health care insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    And the left keeps trying to bring this here...with tens of millions of MORE PEOPLE than Canada: "Canada’s single-payer healthcare system forced over 1 million patients to wait for necessary medical treatments last year. That’s an all-time record."
    Wait times , and everything else, would be FAR WORSE here....

    Canadians are one in a million -- while waiting for medical treatment



    Canada’s single-payer healthcare system forced over 1 million patients to wait for necessary medical treatments last year. That’s an all-time record.

    Those long wait times were more than just a nuisance; they cost patients $1.9 billion in lost wages, according to a new report by the Fraser Institute, a Vancouver-based think-tank.

    Lengthy treatment delays are the norm in Canada and other single-payer nations, which ration care to keep costs down. Yet more and more Democratic leaders are pushing for a single-payer system — and more and more voters are clamoring for one.
    Indeed, three in four Americans now support a national health plan — and a new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finds that health care is the most important issue for voters in the coming election.

    The leading proponent of transitioning the United States to a single-payer system is Sen. Bernie Sanders, Vermont’s firebrand independent. If Sanders and his allies succeed, Americans will face the same delays and low-quality care as their neighbors to the north.
    By his own admission, Sen. Sanders’ “Medicare for All” bill is modeled on Canada’s healthcare system. On a fact-finding trip to Canada last fall, Sanders praised the country for “guaranteeing health care to all people,” noting that “there is so much to be learned” from the Canadian system.

    The only thing Canadian patients are “ guaranteed” is a spot on a waitlist. As the Fraser report notes, in 2017, more than 173,000 patients waited for an ophthalmology procedure. Another 91,000 lined up for some form of general surgery, while more than 40,000 waited for a urology procedure.

    All told, nearly 3 percent of Canada’s population was waiting for some kind of medical care at the end of last year.









    https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallyp...lion-while-waiting-for-medical-treatment/amp/
    What a pile of crap , this wacko right wing puppet organization that is funded by the Koch brothers and there is nothing that the Koch brothers support that is hate based propaganda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Get the federal government completely out of health care meddling and the market will respond with goods and services across all price points.
    It will not, that's just goofy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    A lot of Canadian doctors come to the US so they can make a lot more money.
    So what ,where will they go if we had universal healthcare.

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    between the Canadian system and the system here , it's total comedy, for many reasons, to select this countries nonsense.

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    Anyone supporting these right wing reality twisters that this thread is based on, is a total waste of time. When anything moves far away from the center of conservative policy .then there is no way it can even be considered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    So what ,where will they go if we had universal healthcare.
    Hopefully we don't make the mistake of going universal. If we do, I hope we maintain the private system and insurance for those who want it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    Anyone supporting these right wing reality twisters that this thread is based on, is a total waste of time. When anything moves far away from the center of conservative policy .then there is no way it can even be considered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Translation?
    I don't believe that is possible.

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