Man Sentenced for Threatening to Burn Down a Home Being Purchased by Muslim Family

[Abby08]

Cletus, you're talking about working with Muslims, in Muslim countries.... Quite different from them being here, doing what they do, as if they are in their home countries.

I don't wear blinders, they block my view and, mess up my hair....if I'm forced to live among animals, I need to be able to see clearly.

[DGUtley]

Oh, it happens pretty regularly. You should get out more.

When do Catholics mutilate young girls for shaming the family? I have been Catholic all my life (and am well aware of the sins of the Catholic Church) and I'm not aware of one Catholic family mutilating their daughter b/c she brought shame on them. I would appreciate a link. Thank you.

[Cletus]

When do Catholics mutilate young girls for shaming the family? I have been Catholic all my life (and am well aware of the sins of the Catholic Church) and I'm not aware of one Catholic family mutilating their daughter b/c she brought shame on them. I would appreciate a link. Thank you.

Do you think it is a standard or even common practice among Muslims? It is actually more of a cultural thing than a religious thing.

What I was actually talking about was the "killing" part of the post. Catholics and other Christian sects have done a whole lot of killing over the years in the name of their religion. They don't do it today because they don't need to. They fought their way to dominance, so for now at least, it isn't necessary to spread the Gospel by the sword anymore.

It is the nature of religion to dominate and subjugate the infidel. Honor killings have not been historically limited to Islam. Nor has stoning. Christians at one time were almost as good at torture as my ancestors, and they took great pride in their work. Probably much more advanced in it than Muslims.

Christianity is generally believed to be about 600 years older than Islam. Look 600 years back into history and there really is not that much difference in that stage of development. If Islam follows the same path Christianity did, 600 years from now, they will be reacting to some "newcomer" religion much the same way Christians react to Muslims today.

[Cletus]

Cletus, you're talking about working with Muslims, in Muslim countries.... Quite different from them being here, doing what they do, as if they are in their home countries.

You need to rethink that statement. People are more likely to act maliciously where they are the majority and in control

I don't wear blinders, they block my view and, mess up my hair....if I'm forced to live among animals, I need to be able to see clearly.

You did everything but cheer for the guy who threatened to burn down that family's soon to be home. Who is the animal here?

[MisterVeritis]

Do you think it is a standard or even common practice among Muslims? It is actually more of a cultural thing than a religious thing.

What I was actually talking about was the "killing" part of the post. Catholics and other Christian sects have done a whole lot of killing over the years in the name of their religion. They don't do it today because they don't need to. They fought their way to dominance, so for now at least, it isn't necessary to spread the Gospel by the sword anymore.

It is the nature of religion to dominate and subjugate the infidel. Honor killings have not been historically limited to Islam. Nor has stoning. Christians at one time were almost as good at torture as my ancestors, and they took great pride in their work. Probably much more advanced in it than Muslims.

Christianity is generally believed to be about 600 years older than Islam. Look 600 years back into history and there really is not that much difference in that stage of development. If Islam follows the same path Christianity did, 600 years from now, they will be reacting to some "newcomer" religion much the same way Christians react to Muslims today.

Let's keep Muslims out of this country for six hundred years.

[MisterVeritis]

You need to rethink that statement. People are more likely to act maliciously where they are the majority and in control
You did everything but cheer for the guy who threatened to burn down that family's soon to be home. Who is the animal here?

You offered the same violence as the original perp. Didn't you?

[Cletus]

You offered the same violence as the original perp. Didn't you?

If you really can't see the difference, I am not sure I can educate you.

[MisterVeritis]

You offered the same violence as the original perp. Didn't you?

If you really can't see the difference, I am not sure I can educate you.

Cletus, the correct answer is, "Yes, MisterVeritis, I did offer violence just as the original perp did."

Jihad, the perpetual war against the unbelievers is remarkably sticky even in western so-called democracies. About one-third of the Muslims in Great Britain want Sharia imposed.

We have no obligation to allow any Muslims into our country. Many who are here are not citizens. We need to help them leave.

[MisterVeritis]

Instead if having Howard arrested, they should have taken him out behind the house and kicked the Hell out of him and made it clear that if he ever made another threat like that, no one would ever find his body.

People like that disgust me. People like him don't deserve to be American.

Here you are offering violence just as the original perp did. If you believe there is a difference please do explain it. But it might be better to simply recognize that it sometimes feels good to offer violence as a solution to a problem.

[Cletus]

You offered the same violence as the original perp. Didn't you?

Cletus, the correct answer is, "Yes, MisterVeritis, I did offer violence just as the original perp did."

Actually, I that isn't even close to being the correct answer.

What I offered was a response to a threat. Let me dumb it down for you... "If you do A, I will do B". That is very different from threatening someone because of their religion or the color of their skin or their country of origin. I left the choice up to him. If you understood the concept of escalation of force, you would have seen that.

Jihad, the perpetual war against the unbelievers is remarkably sticky even in western so-called democracies. About one-third of the Muslims in Great Britain want Sharia imposed.

We are not in Great Britain.

We have no obligation to allow any Muslims into our country. Many who are here are not citizens. We need to help them leave.

You don't know whether the Muslims in this incident were American citizens or not. If they were buying a home, they very likely were either citizens or well along the path to citizenship. Home ownership is part of the American dream and it is wrong for you and others to deny them the ability to pursue that dream because you are scared.