Justice Department backs conservative students who claim universities stifle speech

[Major Lambda]

Major, you have been taught wrong. It is a prohibition against government action not private entities or citizens.

Honestly.....now I am confused. Post #18.....repeat.

"The Supreme Court clarified in Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District (1969) that public students do not “shed” their First Amendment rights “at the schoolhouse gate."




Major Lambda

[Major Lambda]

Major, you have been taught wrong. It is a prohibition against government action not private entities or citizens.

So, does this mean that Human Resoures from the Boeing Corporation or McDonnel Douglas.... can walk out to the parking lot of their employees, use a Slim Jim, unlock an employee's car and search it without their permission?




Major Lambda

[Chris]

So, does this mean that Human Resoures from the Boeing Corporation or McDonnel Douglas.... can walk out to the parking lot of their employees, use a Slim Jim, unlock an employee's car and search it without their permission?




Major Lambda

Sure, why not, it's their parking lot.

I think what's being missed is whether the government in the form of courts can intervene in protecting free speech. Surely at a public university, but what about a private university? That would depend, some of us think, on whether the private university depended on public funding. If not, it should be left alone, just like Boing or McDonnel Douglas.

[Major Lambda]

Sure, why not, it's their parking lot.

I think what's being missed is whether the government in the form of courts can intervene in protecting free speech. Surely at a public university, but what about a private university? That would depend, some of us think, on whether the private university depended on public funding. If not, it should be left alone, just like Boing or McDonnel Douglas.

The Government enforces the laws of the Constitution. As an American citizen , I am protected under the US Constitution.

So, if I walk into a supermarket and discuss pro Trump agenda with another patron at the checkout counter, the cashier can tell me to shut up because she is a Clinton fan.

If I park my vehicle on a parking lot at the supermarket, a cop can just break the glass and search my vehicle because it is on private property.

Just because the Prosecution is not ready for court, does not mean they can go and get a 180 day motion for continuance approved.

Why does a lot of people want to trash a document, amend ( Constitutional Amendment ) a document, that so many intellectual people ( the signers of the Constitution ) worked so very hard for , and went to hell to get ratified.

https://constitutioncenter.org/inter...lsen/interp/37

Some....just don't get how rich our history really is. Some don't understand where we as citizens originated nor the importance of colonial times. Some forget the "Masters" like Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Hamilton, Madison. John Quincy Adams and others.

Think back to the 17 and 1800s. Where we essentially began.

Think of walking down a cobblestone sidewalk , with lanterns hanging on the outside of houses. Fog stirs in the distance and a horse and carriage pass you by.

Think of the original 13 colonies. Ships in the harbor and the Boston Tea Party occurring.




Major Lambda

[MisterVeritis]

So, does this mean that Human Resoures from the Boeing Corporation or McDonnel Douglas.... can walk out to the parking lot of their employees, use a Slim Jim, unlock an employee's car and search it without their permission?

Major Lambda

Well, maybe. The Constitution describes the nature of our federal government and, in theory, but no longer in practice, limits what the federal government can do.

You may have any sort of private arrangement with a private corporation. The Constitution is not directly applicable.

[Chris]

The Government enforces the laws of the Constitution. As an American citizen , I am protected under the US Constitution.

So, if I walk into a supermarket and discuss pro Trump agenda with another patron at the checkout counter, the cashier can tell me to shut up because she is a Clinton fan.

If I park my vehicle on a parking lot at the supermarket, a cop can just break the glass and search my vehicle because it is on private property.

Just because the Prosecution is not ready for court, does not mean they can go and get a 180 day motion for continuance approved.

Why does a lot of people want to trash a document, amend ( Constitutional Amendment ) a document, that so many intellectual people ( the signers of the Constitution ) worked so very hard for , and went to hell to get ratified.

https://constitutioncenter.org/inter...lsen/interp/37

Some....just don't get how rich our history really is. Some don't understand where we as citizens originated nor the importance of colonial times. Some forget the "Masters" like Jefferson, Washington, Franklin, Hamilton, Madison. John Quincy Adams and others.

Think back to the 17 and 1800s. Where we essentially began.

Think of walking down a cobblestone sidewalk , with lanterns hanging on the outside of houses. Fog stirs in the distance and a horse and carriage pass you by.

Think of the original 13 colonies. Ships in the harbor and the Boston Tea Party occurring.




Major Lambda

Let's assume "The Government enforces the laws of the Constitution." What law here applies? Only that the government, through legislature, cannot violate the natural free speech rights of the people. Public universities are an extension of the government. Private universities can be tightly ties to the government for program funding. Do Boeing or McDonnel Douglas sell to the government, but that's not, imo, enough to regulate them. If they take subsidies from the government, then they might be regulated. But the principle here is the COnstitution protects free speech from government intrusion.