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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    I won't tell you that.
    ahhhhhhhhhh, another "Convenient Christian."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Its so nice to see the party of family values in action. WWJD?
    What would Jesus do? I suppose Jesus would follow the laws passed by the Congress and signed into law decades ago.

    What other questions do you have?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    For those of you embracing the Trump post fact world.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wa...s-passed-1997/
    Did you track any of that snopes nonsense down or did you just open your mouth and swallow it whole?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    Yes of course I did because its supposedly the party of family values first referenced by the moral majority and then the point of view of Evangelicals and their movement into the right wing political sphere claiming to speak for the moral side of things.
    Is it moral or is it immoral for the Executive Branch to enforce the laws passed by the Congress and signed into law by a sitting President?
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    The Bible is clear no question. We are to follow the laws of the land unless it goes against His. So they came here knowing they broke our law and the separation is on them. Just like I wouldn't have crossed into Mexico illegal with my young kids. I know they would have arrested me and not put the children with me in jail. In other words it's a stupid question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ripmeister View Post
    For those of you embracing the Trump post fact world.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/wa...s-passed-1997/
    Here @ripmeister ...here's a little bit of indigestion for your self-righteous indignation:
    EXCLUSIVE: Moms Of Children Killed By Illegal Aliens Slam Media For Hypocritical Coverage Of Border Separations
    Justin Caruso
    ~snip~
    "...The mothers told TheDC that there was huge hypocrisy in the mainstream media focusing on migrant parents instead of American parents who were permanently separated from their children after those children were killed by illegal aliens.
    “There is hypocrisy in many ways. The total disregard for American families ripped apart because of illegal criminals, the total lack of concern for children in the U.S. being raped in North Carolina by illegals at disgusting numbers (some months over 400 child rapes by illegals), no concern [for] homeless American children or Veterans who would do anything to have what’s provided [to] these children. Yet, our politicians call it inhumane treatment. Would they rather these kids coming across our borders stay with the adults who aren’t their biological parents but have kidnapped them to get across the border as a ‘family unit?'” Mary Ann Mendoza told TheDC."
    "...Sabine Durden told TheDC, “The hypocrisy is astonishing. The MSM has ignored many of us victims of illegal alien crime for so long. They avoid us like pests. If it weren’t for President Trump, no one would even know much about us. He gave my son a voice that was taken by an illegal. And I’m forever thankful to him for that and for bringing the issue of illegal alien invasion to the forefront. It’s deeply hurtful to see how MSM now ‘cares’ so much for children separated from their parents while continuing to ignore thousands of us separated by death, forever.” ~snip~
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/18/an...er-separation/

    Get over your small self and take a good look around you. Is it ok with you that American families are paying a heavy price for your self-righteousness?
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    now watch the self-righteous rip run and hide
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    These parents knew that they would be separated from their kids for a brief time so it is on them that made the decision to come here anyway. Nobody made it an issue when Obama was president when kids were separated but because it is Trump, everyone is in an uproar over it.

    Who determines when the U.S. can no longer take immigrants because it will destroy our society's structure? We already have millions of citizens living on the streets and non citizens in the millions getting health insurance paid by all of us. Citizens with children do not realize by acting like a bleeding heart to these illegals by wanting us to take them in do not realize how difficult it will be for their children to succeed in life.

    We had 30 million US citizens that were uninsured when 5 million illegals did have coverage. Today we still have the 30 million that do not have coverage while 22 million illegals have health coverage. I do not understand why most of our citizens do not have a problem with this just one fact?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barb012 View Post
    These parents knew that they would be separated from their kids for a brief time so it is on them that made the decision to come here anyway. Nobody made it an issue when Obama was president when kids were separated but because it is Trump, everyone is in an uproar over it.

    Who determines when the U.S. can no longer take immigrants because it will destroy our society's structure? We already have millions of citizens living on the streets and non citizens in the millions getting health insurance paid by all of us. Citizens with children do not realize by acting like a bleeding heart to these illegals by wanting us to take them in do not realize how difficult it will be for their children to succeed in life.

    We had 30 million US citizens that were uninsured when 5 million illegals did have coverage. Today we still have the 30 million that do not have coverage while 22 million illegals have health coverage. I do not understand why most of our citizens do not have a problem with this just one fact?
    Ol' rip will call you a liar, citing snope's as he does it.....................
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    I just that of the 12,000 children who are being held, 10,000 of them were sent here alone by their parents. Those children would be separated from their parents by their parents.

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