Time for the US to leave Afghanistan

[The Xl]

Lol, the time to leave was a very long time ago. Better late than never, however.

[Peter1469]

The Taliban not governing Afghanistan hardly zero. I don't expect you to know any better though.

We just got there. And aren't leaving. Sorry.

How much do you not know?

Read the Startfor article about the Taliban shadow government.

And stop embarrassing yourself with stupid comments.

[Ransom]

Go back to what? It is not very different that it was 18 years ago.

The Taliban isn't going to take over. Most would likely join the government if the US was not in the way.

A coalition will remain until we're sure the government is secure enough to prevent Taliban governance. No matter how long it takes. We cannot return....simply cannot return....to the realist chess games. They've proven they're incapable of change, incapable of seeing the forest for the trees.

Mark my words. We ain't going nowhere. The Neocons will see to it.

[Ransom]

How much do you not know?

Read the Startfor article about the Taliban shadow government.

And stop embarrassing yourself with stupid comments.

We aren't going anywhere. The Taliban won't be permitted to rule Afghanistan. You're Realist idiocies no longer relevant. Go sit down.

[Peter1469]

A coalition will remain until we're sure the government is secure enough to prevent Taliban governance. No matter how long it takes. We cannot return....simply cannot return....to the realist chess games. They've proven they're incapable of change, incapable of seeing the forest for the trees.

Mark my words. We ain't going nowhere. The Neocons will see to it.

So fools go.

Your neocon dream is destined for utter failure.

[Peter1469]

We aren't going anywhere. The Taliban won't be permitted to rule Afghanistan. You're Realist idiocies no longer relevant. Go sit down.

Realism will always prevail: ultimately, especially when cash gets short, nations act in the vital interest. They avoid conflicts that don't meet that standard. Also, all nations act with the understanding of its constraints.

If you need help with the technical terms ask.

[Ransom]

Lol, the time to leave was a very long time ago. Better late than never, however.

On the contrary Sir. History proved we went in way too late. 2001 wasn't soon enough...was it? Better late than never didn't work out then. We were too late....and it cost thousands of American lives.

[Peter1469]

On the contrary Sir. History proved we went in way too late. 2001 wasn't soon enough...was it? Better late than never didn't work out then. We were too late....and it cost thousands of American lives.

Do you understand the difference from eliminating al Q from Afghanistan to deciding their future governance?

No you don't. You are a neocon- part of a proven failed bunch of elites.

[Abby08]

Will it go back the way it was? If so, I’m against leaving.

If it goes back the way it was, after we fought to make a difference there, that's not our problem, how much are we required to do? How many American soldiers have to die trying to help them?

[Ransom]

Do you understand the difference from eliminating al Q from Afghanistan to deciding their future governance?

No you don't. You are a neocon- part of a proven failed bunch of elites.

I like the part where you ask the question and answer for me. If this was a structured debate that would be pointed out. It's a sign amongst the judges you're losing the content debate. The "do you know this or that, well of course you don't", a well known foul amongst debate team scoring.

I'll explain in my next response to your post 16 what mistakes you made and are making now. And of course, we've the record here on tpf that reveals the true score. Had I your statements on the record here, Peter, I'd be embarrassed.