The Left is eating itself

[DLLS]

The Left is eating itself

That explains why the last time I got into an argument with a liberal and said "eat me" he stated he was full.

Yes, that was a bad attempt at humor but what do you expect, I haven't had any caffeine yet, which is unusual since it is almost two in the afternoon.

[Captdon]

Tree spiking does not kill old growth trees. Any short term harm that might come to a smaller tree is better than literally being cut down. In my journey for my cause I would consider the person spiking the tree to be more ethically correct than the person/company logging the old growth forest. FYI tree spiking barely exists anymore. It peaked before I was even born.

Ethically correct? Someone cuts the tree and the saw bounces back killing him. That's your ethics?

Now, tell me about the forest fires killing all the trees and the eco-system coming back. How is that better than replanting? Take your time.

[Captdon]

Just amazing, Captdon, that you see that trees are part of humanity, but not a poor animal that is grieving. But that was always the expectation.

How there is the Papyrus of Ani as that of the "Egyptian Book of the Dead" and how the Egyptians knew there was an afterlife even for them.

In what direction did Moses swim? Money to be made always the way one feels they might win. The God Aker is the root of the Horizon.


"Animals accorded same rights as humans in Indian state"

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...national-park/

What are you talking about? Trees are trees, animals are animals and humans are humans.

[Common Sense]

What are you talking about? Trees are trees, animals are animals and humans are humans.

Well, humans are mammals. Mammals are animals.

[Captdon]

A few? You think you’re alone in your want of pristine wood?

Trees are renewable. Go look at an old forest that has come back from a fire.

You seem pretty choosy about renewable.

[Captdon]

I’d imagine that one key goal to spiking an old growth tree is to keep it from being turned into furniture. Again though, spiking trees is not at all common and isn’t even embraced by any modern radical environmental groups so it’s really kind of a moot thing to debate. More is done today to protect old growth forests through increased awareness and meaningful regulations on the logging industry, regulations that I’m sure Trump will get rid of to allow for more logging. He’s already rolled back protections for Bears Ear to allow for uranium mining. Joy.

I don't have to imagine. The sole purpose of tree spiking was to murder the person cutting it. You can't sugarcoat it and you can't bs an old timer.

[Captdon]

Well, humans are mammals. Mammals are animals.

Maybe you're an animal. I'm not.

[Admiral Ackbar]

I’d imagine that one key goal to spiking an old growth tree is to keep it from being turned into furniture. Again though, spiking trees is not at all common and isn’t even embraced by any modern radical environmental groups so it’s really kind of a moot thing to debate. More is done today to protect old growth forests through increased awareness and meaningful regulations on the logging industry, regulations that I’m sure Trump will get rid of to allow for more logging. He’s already rolled back protections for Bears Ear to allow for uranium mining. Joy.

Lets hope more trees can be cut! Last year I purchased an Amish made Barnwood table and chairs. It is beyond awesome. The texture the carftsmans ship. I don't know how many trees died to make this table but however many it was it was well worth their sacrifice!

I LOVE wood furniture.....

[Chloe]

Ethically correct? Someone cuts the tree and the saw bounces back killing him. That's your ethics?

Now, tell me about the forest fires killing all the trees and the eco-system coming back. How is that better than replanting? Take your time.

Nobody has ever died from a spiked tree and that wasn't the reason people were spiking them, it was to deter logging, in fact, groups like Earth First would warn the companies if certain old growth trees were spiked. Only one serious injury ever really came from a spiked tree and do some simple research and it shows that most likely it was from a disgruntled employee not an environmentalist. It's more urban legend now than it is an actual real fear. It was short lived and peaked before I was even born. So you guys should let go of that argument.

As for fire versus replanting...one is natural (unless it's arson or human error) and the other is managed. A natural forest fire is not a bad thing in most cases since it clears out dead undergrowth and makes room for new growth but most natural forest fires are localized and brief and the regrowth forms in natural ways. Logging and clear cutting followed by a re-planting creates a tree farm of an unnatural line of the same species of trees that are also one day slated to be logged. While it still houses a variety of species once it matures it is nowhere close to supporting the level of biodiversity it once had before the clear cutting occurred, especially an old growth forest. Go walk an old growth forest, there are plenty here in Oregon, and then go walk a tree farm. They are not the same thing. I'm not saying that an empty field is better than a replanted tree farm/forest, but I am saying that a mature, wild forest supports far more biodiversity than a the replanted one.

[Chloe]

Maybe you're an animal. I'm not.

Yet science and fact says you are.