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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    “Biology” didn’t kill anyone. Just because there wasn’t knowledge of actions such as CPR doesn’t mean that biology is junk science. Advances in medical science have occurred over centuries and are still occurring today. That has nothing to do with whether or not humans are animals. You seem to be flailing and basically trying to think of any reason, no matter how illogical, to simply disgree with me.
    You tried to use animal tricks to somehow place animals on a level almost human-like. Animal have figured out about .00001 percent of what a human three year old has.

    I'm not flailing at all. You're the one who thinks all the liberal crap you've been taught is gospel. They have to teach you that to justify not having to find real jobs.

    Again, an eco-system is the same after cutting and a fire. It will recover at the same rate and same way, if nothing is done. How could they not? Fire is far more destructive than cutting and you know that.

    If I have to agree with you about everything you say it's not a discussion.
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    God created the beast and animals. Then he made Man..................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You tried to use animal tricks to somehow place animals on a level almost human-like. Animal have figured out about .00001 percent of what a human three year old has.

    I'm not flailing at all. You're the one who thinks all the liberal crap you've been taught is gospel. They have to teach you that to justify not having to find real jobs.

    Again, an eco-system is the same after cutting and a fire. It will recover at the same rate and same way, if nothing is done. How could they not? Fire is far more destructive than cutting and you know that.

    If I have to agree with you about everything you say it's not a discussion.
    You literally ignored every single legitimate example I gave in response to your claim that only humans use tools and then literally used the opportunity to make it political when there is no political angle to what I was saying. You are actively trying to waste my time. I can't stop you from choosing ignorance but I can stop humoring you and stop feeding your trolling. Talk to yourself from now on.
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    They of the rich and well-to-do when indulging but nothing else for talk makes talk, as if without their position of power, as what is, will lose it. The people of God shall join hands praying for Christian revival worldwide, there is Thoth as Thor's chambers.

    Psalm 8:5 states that man was made a little lower than the angels which are of a. angels b. animal kind c. animals. There will be no more political parties, just persons. In India, were adopted animal rights. Once a land of the Aryans, /\R = Animal Rights.

    Thistles to Thule, the LORD rides a swift cloud for time,

    The Lion of the tribe of Judah bears the stars & stripes.

    The bear is a dog and so was the bear made by Anubis?

    By God the bear created but by His side Anubis attests.

    A monkey can take a tool and build a palace by it rocks.

    Curve a stone and call it a ball as God sends the talents.

    Job 9:9, Amos 5:8, no see it, Earth's a shaker, scientists.

    Global warnings worldwide as an Earth switches oars,

    Because man cannot rule himself God will take it over.

    He sees not and so will it be when the darkness covers.
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
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    Jesus was a Vegetarian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx6J6jh1Dzo

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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    The Left is eating itself
    Ben Crystal

    I was over the Democrats’ act. The mindless rage at everyone to the right of Mao was becoming tiresome; especially considering it was fueled by hate, ignorance and outright baloney. “The NRA is a terrorist organization!” “Border security is racist!” “Blame the white guy!” Rather than examine their internal workings and possibly come up with a message that didn’t involve expressing complete disdain for at least half the country, they curled up, ever-tighter, into a seething ball of political fury. They blew every nickel of political capital they ever earned on keeping Hillary Clinton’s political fantasies on life support and were falling apart like whatever is left of former President Barack Obama’s dwindling legacy. I’ve already seen them try to sway the electorate by telling them they hate them more than cancer. Zzzzz.
    But man, have they ever come through of late! In the opening weeks of what far-left blogger and feminist priestess Rebecca Traister has termed the left’s “summer of rage,” they have turned on each other like starving rats, and I am so here for their latest freakshow. As bored as I was of listening to liberals throw unholy tantrums and shrieking about whatever weird conspiracy theory they’d cooked up to explain why President Donald Trump has mopped the floor with them since January 2017, I am riveted by watching them jockey for position to throw each other under the bus.
    Last week, a hitherto-unknown communist named Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez yanked the rug out from under longtime congressman — and Nancy Pelosi sock puppet — Joe Crowley (D-Not for long). And Crowley isn’t some background benchwarmer from some hippie-infested Oregon backwater or gun violence-plagued free-fire zone in urban Baltimore. Crowley is the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House of Representatives. Moreover, Ocasio-Cortez isn’t some Democrat super-pac-backed lecture circuit darling. She’s a communist bartender. A 28-year-old communist bartender. In the space of a week, Miss Ocasio-Cortez has jumped from undereducated neophyte to the new face of the Democrat Party; a fact which doubtless galls Madame Pelosi as much as a Botox® shortage. And God love the girl; in a district in which Republicans are about as popular as the plague, she’s probably going to win. The next generation of the party of Hillary Clinton is younger than Hillary’s own kid, and wants every American to taste the sweet fruit of socialism. Of course, that would be a metaphorical taste, since the grocery stores in socialist nations ran out of fruit a couple of years ago.
    Bookending the “new” left with Ocasio-Cortez, is Congressperson Maxine Waters (LOL-Californistan). Don’t let her advanced years fool you. Our gal Max might look like a raisin in a James Brown wig next to the vivacious Ocasio-Cortez, but she can rock her own pair of crazypants. After exhorting liberals to go full stormtrooper whenever they encounter enemies of the collective, she followed up with some fanciful tales about death threats, and then turned both barrels on her party’s hierarchy. This past weekend, the old girl took dead aim at both Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-Wherever There’s a Camera), telling MSNBC’s resident racist Joy Ann Reid that her party’s bigwigs “will do anything that they think is necessary to protect their leadership.”
    Time was, you were allowed to be a fairly moderate Democrat. They even permitted the occasional pro-life politician into their ranks, as long as the pol would pull the “yes” lever on whatever tax scam or welfare giveaway they came up with. Now, they’re even going after Senator Bernie Sanders (Crazy Old Man – VT). Everyone’s favorite grumpy old socialist just two short years ago, Bernie’s refusal to endorse abolishing the ICE has him looking at the business end of the same ideologues who squealed like fangirls for him when he challenged Hillary for the title.
    One of my best friends, and a smart cat in his own right, has long maintained that the Democrats, when starving for a win, inevitably start eating their own. Based on their current diet, I’d say he’s right. I’d also say: Dig in, Democrats!
    — Ben Crystal

    https://personalliberty.com/the-left-is-eating-itself/

    they have no chance in 2020..........which plank of the Democratic Party has a message we can embrace, hate, intolerance, violence? How will this ensure a victory?
    IMO, they are using fear, violence, and intimidation, and that never wins.
    Pass me the ketchup please!
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    Think 3rd party for 2024 folks. Clean up America.

    Once I tell you that we agree to disagree there will be no more discussion between us in the thread so please don't waste your time continuing to argue your points because I will not respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    You literally ignored every single legitimate example I gave in response to your claim that only humans use tools and then literally used the opportunity to make it political when there is no political angle to what I was saying. You are actively trying to waste my time. I can't stop you from choosing ignorance but I can stop humoring you and stop feeding your trolling. Talk to yourself from now on.
    I never said only humans used tools. That's a lie. You won't be able to post where I said it because I didn't say it. You have now resorted to lying and I thought better of you. I was wrong to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Animals can't invent anything. Proof enough? We aren't matters of degrees different form animals. We are Lords of the earth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    You tried to use animal tricks to somehow place animals on a level almost human-like. Animal have figured out about .00001 percent of what a human three year old has.

    I'm not flailing at all. You're the one who thinks all the liberal crap you've been taught is gospel. They have to teach you that to justify not having to find real jobs.

    Again, an eco-system is the same after cutting and a fire. It will recover at the same rate and same way, if nothing is done. How could they not? Fire is far more destructive than cutting and you know that.

    If I have to agree with you about everything you say it's not a discussion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    I never said only humans used tools. That's a lie. You won't be able to post where I said it because I didn't say it. You have now resorted to lying and I thought better of you. I was wrong to do that.
    Ugh I let you pull me back into your nonsense. The first post is you saying that animals can’t invent anything. I then listed a number of examples of animals inventing tools for them to use to achieve goals for food and shelter in which the next post in response was you hedging your bet by calling them animal tricks and then throwing out a made up percentage of .00001. To say only humans can “invent” things is silly since animals without any training from a human and without observing human behavior have “invented” their own way of problem solving based on their needs using many of the same tools and methods we do just without using human created attachments or accessories. Did a human invent a hammer? Is it so much different than a sea otter using a stone just without the wooden handle? Of course not. Did humans utensils? A monkey using a stick of a certain size and shape to pick up hundreds of ants at one time is using a utensil, just with a different look than the ones we made and sell at the store. Clearly an otter can’t and hasn’t invented space travel but humans have had to use nature and other animal adaptations and defenses for our own benefit too through biomimicry. Things that we think we “invented” but already existed in nature. We just then made it fit into our needs. There are plenty of examples of things that different species of animals can do that we absolutely can’t do. Does that make them better than us? You are trying so hard to be offended by the fact that humans are part of the animal kingdom that you are making humans out to be completely detached from the natural world. Just because we are a species of animal and part of the animal kingdom does make us less valuable or less important. Animals are awesome and beautiful and smart and resourceful and resilient and tough. I’d rather be associated with that than to be all alone with just an ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGUtley View Post
    These people have better medical care than I do, and I make exponentially more money than they do.

    Then why aren't you getting all your care in the emergency room, if it's as great as you say? Oh, that's right. You know you're spouting crap.

    Will an emergency room do cancer screenings?

    Will an emergency room do any kind of preventive medicine?

    Will and emergency room give out long-term asthma meds, or meds for any chronic condition?

    Will an emergency room fix your teeth?

    And does an ER work for free? Yeah, they have to treat you. And then they'll bankrupt you, meaning people won't even go to the ER, because they know it will bankrupt them.

    The poor get far worse health care than you do, many of them die because of it, and Trump is making it worse.

    The models have not been spot on.
    The hard data says otherwise. That trumps your feelings, or some unnamed dude in Cleveland that you talked to.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-conservative/

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...-observations/

    https://tamino.wordpress.com/2016/05/17/models/

    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis...global-warming

    You missed my point. The point is -- if we have this massive problem, how is it solved by taking wealth from the western developed countries and giving it to the eastern undeveloped countries? Wouldn't you address the problem rather than tossing our money around to someone else? If so, then how is this much more than redistribution?
    That strawman holds no interest to me. It's your invention, so it's up to you to justify it.

    And again, you're confirming my point. Our side talks about hard data. Your side only talks about the VastGlobalSocialistPlot. We base our politics on the science, you base your science on your politics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chloe View Post
    Ugh I let you pull me back into your nonsense. The first post is you saying that animals can’t invent anything. I then listed a number of examples of animals inventing tools for them to use to achieve goals for food and shelter in which the next post in response was you hedging your bet by calling them animal tricks and then throwing out a made up percentage of .00001. To say only humans can “invent” things is silly since animals without any training from a human and without observing human behavior have “invented” their own way of problem solving based on their needs using many of the same tools and methods we do just without using human created attachments or accessories. Did a human invent a hammer? Is it so much different than a sea otter using a stone just without the wooden handle? Of course not. Did humans utensils? A monkey using a stick of a certain size and shape to pick up hundreds of ants at one time is using a utensil, just with a different look than the ones we made and sell at the store. Clearly an otter can’t and hasn’t invented space travel but humans have had to use nature and other animal adaptations and defenses for our own benefit too through biomimicry. Things that we think we “invented” but already existed in nature. We just then made it fit into our needs. There are plenty of examples of things that different species of animals can do that we absolutely can’t do. Does that make them better than us? You are trying so hard to be offended by the fact that humans are part of the animal kingdom that you are making humans out to be completely detached from the natural world. Just because we are a species of animal and part of the animal kingdom does make us less valuable or less important. Animals are awesome and beautiful and smart and resourceful and resilient and tough. I’d rather be associated with that than to be all alone with just an ego.
    This all fine and dandy. You still didn't post where I said only humans used tools. A couple of "inventions" by different species of animals doesn't prove a thing. proof of that is we are on top and they aren't.

    I also never said i wanted animals to disappear. i did say no animal is wort a human being. The life of an animal doesn't matter compared to a human life.

    The whole point that you ignored or say something untrue about is my statement that an eco-system does not know the difference between a burned out forest and a cut out forest. There is no difference. A tree grows and attracts birds that attract their predator who attract their predators. the bugs probably didn't go too far away in either case.

    So, you never answered the question I asked. You went off to some eco-nut diatribe that made no sense. I don't care anymore what your answer is. I've lost interest. You are never going to win what you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    Then why aren't you getting all your care in the emergency room, if it's as great as you say? Oh, that's right. You know you're spouting crap.

    Will an emergency room do cancer screenings?

    Will an emergency room do any kind of preventive medicine?

    Will and emergency room give out long-term asthma meds, or meds for any chronic condition?

    Will an emergency room fix your teeth?

    And does an ER work for free? Yeah, they have to treat you. And then they'll bankrupt you, meaning people won't even go to the ER, because they know it will bankrupt them.

    The poor get far worse health care than you do, many of them die because of it, and Trump is making it worse.



    The hard data says otherwise. That trumps your feelings, or some unnamed dude in Cleveland that you talked to.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-conservative/

    http://www.realclimate.org/index.php...-observations/

    https://tamino.wordpress.com/2016/05/17/models/

    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis...global-warming



    That strawman holds no interest to me. It's your invention, so it's up to you to justify it.

    And again, you're confirming my point. Our side talks about hard data. Your side only talks about the VastGlobalSocialistPlot. We base our politics on the science, you base your science on your politics.
    Mediacaid does all those things and it's free.It's a handout to the lazy.

    I'm on Medicare and don't get all of that. I paid into it my entire working life.(I always worked) I also pay a premium for Medicare.

    There's some hard data for you, You can verify everything I say at Medicare.com. You won't because it will show what as ass you are.
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