Democracy Or Constitutional Republic?

[Captdon]

Not surprising.

No, because you don't really have a grasp of your own words.

[Captdon]

Texas is by the Constitution guaranteed a republican form of government, right? Yet Texans in favor of all 7 constitutional amendments: "All seven constitutional amendments on the statewide ballot were approved by Texas voters, according to results released Tuesday evening by the Texas Secretary of State’s office."

The founders wanted three branches. They didn't want a parliament with Prime Minister in any state. They wanted the Executive and Legislative branch to be separate.

Ballot approval don't change that. For one thing, if the legislature ignore a ballot vote what happens? The courts can't force the legislature to do anything. When the legislature does pass any of the issues the Executive can veto it.

If the amendments are automatic it is the state's choice. It doesn't change the form of government of Texas.

[MisterVeritis]

Texas is by the Constitution guaranteed a republican form of government, right? Yet Texans in favor of all 7 constitutional amendments: "All seven constitutional amendments on the statewide ballot were approved by Texas voters, according to results released Tuesday evening by the Texas Secretary of State’s office."

Do you understand that the State's sovereignty is derived from the citizens of the State? Changing the Constitution demands a vote of the whole people. It sets the limits on the State government. Making necessary and useful laws, on the other hand, is routinely done by representatives.

In my opinion, before a citizen should be allowed to vote on a Constitutional amendment they should have to show a deep understanding of the reasons for the change and the reasons opposed.

[Chris]

Do you understand that the State's sovereignty is derived from the citizens of the State? Changing the Constitution demands a vote of the whole people. It sets the limits on the State government. Making necessary and useful laws, on the other hand, is routinely done by representatives.

In my opinion, before a citizen should be allowed to vote on a Constitutional amendment they should have to show a deep understanding of the reasons for the change and the reasons opposed.

Still, to argue definitions when reality is different is ridiculous--republican governments use direct democracy referendums all the time on all manner it measures.

[Chris]

The founders wanted three branches. They didn't want a parliament with Prime Minister in any state. They wanted the Executive and Legislative branch to be separate.

Ballot approval don't change that. For one thing, if the legislature ignore a ballot vote what happens? The courts can't force the legislature to do anything. When the legislature does pass any of the issues the Executive can veto it.

If the amendments are automatic it is the state's choice. It doesn't change the form of government of Texas.

My point was that a republican form of government doesn't mean you cannot also use direct democracy for some measures.

[Chris]

I think form of government is important here. Direct democracy and republic differ in form, but both are types of democracy.

[Robo]

You're conflating direct democracy with what we have which is representative democracy.


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"Representative democracy" is an oxymoron. Democracy is, "THE MAJORITY VOTE OF THE PEOPLE." There's no indications within that definition for a collective proxy vote by a representative.

[MisterVeritis]

Still, to argue definitions when reality is different is ridiculous--republican governments use direct democracy referendums all the time on all manner it measures.

It is okay for you to hold a muddled position.

[Chris]

It is okay for you to hold a muddled position.

It's OK for you to depend on dictionary definitions for authority. Doesn't mean anything, but it's OK.

[MisterVeritis]

It's OK for you to depend on dictionary definitions for authority. Doesn't mean anything, but it's OK.

Words mean things, Alice.