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Thread: Is Progressive Ideology Incompatible With The First Amendment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midcan5 View Post
    It must be because there is a 'dark money' supported article online saying it is! LOL It is hard for me to take these threads serious. Of course for the conservative snowflake 'progressivism' that be bad, you know real real bad. And Progressives don't like free speech cause cause well cause they don't like bad court decisions. That must be extra bad. You think....

    You do realize you said absolutely nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    To me this question is difficult to answer because progressives define and frame free speech so differently than libertarians or even conservatives.

    According to Is Progressive Ideology Incompatible With The First Amendment?, progressives, represented here by Seldman, would answer progressivism is incompatible with free speech.
    I think globalism/neo-liberalism is incompatible with most Enlightenment values. This is hard for most conservatives to accept because it runs counter-intuitive to our "market positive" generalities. (Yes, I consider myself a conservative, mostly.)

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    There is so much talk from both sides about taking away freedoms, and nobody wants to admit they are just as guilty of the same $#@!.
    This is a junk topic.
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    Another useless non historical thread in history forum.

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    Freedom of speech is now and always has been used as a weapon by both sides. As it was intended by the Founders. If it were ever dissolved we would lose another pillar in our founding and stability as a Republic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Another useless non historical thread in history forum.
    I disagree. The OP is a top tier contributor to discussions here. Shoo, you marginalized political loser.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmyz View Post
    I disagree. The OP is a top tier contributor to discussions here. Shoo, you marginalized political loser.
    It's a constitutional; question not an historical subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    It's a constitutional; question not an historical subject.
    It touches on law but is really a history of progressive's antagonism toward free speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spunkloaf View Post
    There is so much talk from both sides about taking away freedoms, and nobody wants to admit they are just as guilty of the same $#@!.
    This is a junk topic.
    I gotta ask. What freedoms are being taken away?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stjames1_53 View Post
    I gotta ask. What freedoms are being taken away?
    The freedom to loot and burn down a CVS drugstore.

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