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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    "Climate science" has been caught red handed, manipulating the data too many times over the years
    As I know the actual science. I know with 100% certainty that your statement is false.

    You probably don't understand that you're pushing a lie, but that's just a demonstration of how your ignorance led you to fall for political propaganda.

    And that's why conservatives attack and censor science, to keep people ignorant, so that they'll fall for the propaganda.

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    Oh, hockey sticks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    As I know the actual science. I know with 100% certainty that your statement is false.

    You probably don't understand that you're pushing a lie, but that's just a demonstration of how your ignorance led you to fall for political propaganda.

    And that's why conservatives attack and censor science, to keep people ignorant, so that they'll fall for the propaganda.
    You know very little and it's always wrong. You are Josef Goebbels in disguise.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our democracy and our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    If most science didn't point out conservatives were wrong about everything, conservatives wouldn't feel so driven to declare science is a liberal plot. But it does, so they do. Hence, this thread.

    Modern conservatives are like the Stalinist Lysankoists, who prosecuted any scientist who dared do genetic science that wasn't politically approved by TheParty. You don't see any liberals calling for scientists to be jailed. The two sides are totally different in that regard.

    Can I prove it? Trivially.

    The Republican party tried to prosecute Dr. Mann for doing accurate climate science that was inconvenient to the goals of the Republican party.

    I've asked conservatives many times if they're willing to condemn such open Stalinism.

    They're not. Every conservative I've talked to refuses to condemn the tactic of sending scientists to The Gulag if they do the wrong kind of science, meaning they tacitly support it.

    Oh, here's some more Republican science censorship. Again, only one side tries to censor politically inconvenient science, the conservative side. Conservatism is a sort of anti-enlightenment cult.

    http://columbiaclimatelaw.com/resour...imate-science/
    I live in a coastal state. I go to one of the beaches. I have a favorite spot. I go there every year. It hasn't moved. So, when does the ocean rise? Does it rise only where I don't live? Are you wrong? Guess which one it is?
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our democracy and our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    I live in a coastal state. I go to one of the beaches. I have a favorite spot. I go there every year. It hasn't moved. So, when does the ocean rise? Does it rise only where I don't live? Are you wrong? Guess which one it is?
    I just figured something out. You're not acting. You really _are_ as crazy as you sound.

    Let me take a few minutes to recover from that. It's quite a shock. I really did think you were just a particularly butthurt troll-stalker. It didn't strike me that you actually believed the idiocy you write.

    So, you're claiming that because the three-inch sea-level rise over the past 20 years didn't obliterate your favorite beach, that means there's been no sea level no rise, and all the data is a big hoax.

    Wow, that's stupid. And to think you thought it was a brilliant argument, and wrote it up, and hit the post button, and thought to yourself "Dang, that's good!". The mind boggles.

    Oh, I see none of the conservatives were willing to condemn their side's attempts to send climate scientists to The Gulag. That was predicatable. Without exception, every Trump cultist is thrilled with their side's Stalinist anti-science agenda. It gives them an authoritarian tingle up the leg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    If most science didn't point out conservatives were wrong about everything, conservatives wouldn't feel so driven to declare science is a liberal plot. But it does, so they do. Hence, this thread.

    Modern conservatives are like the Stalinist Lysankoists, who prosecuted any scientist who dared do genetic science that wasn't politically approved by TheParty. You don't see any liberals calling for scientists to be jailed. The two sides are totally different in that regard.

    Can I prove it? Trivially.

    The Republican party tried to prosecute Dr. Mann for doing accurate climate science that was inconvenient to the goals of the Republican party.

    I've asked conservatives many times if they're willing to condemn such open Stalinism.

    They're not. Every conservative I've talked to refuses to condemn the tactic of sending scientists to The Gulag if they do the wrong kind of science, meaning they tacitly support it.

    Oh, here's some more Republican science censorship. Again, only one side tries to censor politically inconvenient science, the conservative side. Conservatism is a sort of anti-enlightenment cult.

    http://columbiaclimatelaw.com/resour...imate-science/
    Could you be a little more hyperbolic with your hysteria? Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    I live in a coastal state. I go to one of the beaches. I have a favorite spot. I go there every year. It hasn't moved. So, when does the ocean rise? Does it rise only where I don't live? Are you wrong? Guess which one it is?
    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    I just figured something out. You're not acting. You really _are_ as crazy as you sound. Let me take a few minutes to recover from that. It's quite a shock. I really did think you were just a particularly butthurt troll-stalker. It didn't strike me that you actually believed the idiocy you write. So, you're claiming that because the three-inch sea-level rise over the past 20 years didn't obliterate your favorite beach, that means there's been no sea level no rise, and all the data is a big hoax. Wow, that's stupid. And to think you thought it was a brilliant argument, and wrote it up, and hit the post button, and thought to yourself "Dang, that's good!". The mind boggles. Oh, I see none of the conservatives were willing to condemn their side's attempts to send climate scientists to The Gulag. That was predicatable. Without exception, every Trump cultist is thrilled with their side's Stalinist anti-science agenda. It gives them an authoritarian tingle up the leg.
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    A Stalinist anti-science agenda? The primary field to suffer from the ideological objections of Soviet intellectuals was genetics. The USSR was otherwise a materialist society obsessed with science, progress and machines. Much like the US...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister D View Post
    A Stalinist anti-science agenda? The primary field to suffer from the ideological objections of Soviet intellectuals was genetics. The USSR was otherwise a materialist society obsessed with science, progress and machines. Much like the US...
    It's too bad the Liberal Progressives are still living in the 17th century
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