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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Oh, I am leaving foreign policy up to you, @Peter1469. And @Ethereal. And @donttread. I urge all three of you to continue spouting, winging, and thrusting yourselves into the foreign policy analyses here, number one it provides me entertainment. Two, it provides a record I can post up here and roar in laughter while you three try to defend that record.

    For we know that even those to the left of we Neocons urged airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq The British Parliament in fact approved airstrikes in Iraq....not in Syria....but in Iraq against ISIS as early as September 2014. The British Parliament not exactly your Neocon proponents by Dec of 2015 had approved airstrikes inside Syria, ISIS apparent and very recognizable to the English.

    The French.....we know how the French responded don't we? By December of 2015, they are striking in Syria, attacking ISIS in Raqqa. They claimed that prior to that any attacks on ISIS might inadvertently support Assad's government by killing Assad's enemies......but the French after losing 129 at that concert venue.....wanted blood.

    The United States as well finally woke up. Finally recognized what some Observers predicted would be unrecognizable.

    Says the guy who could not supply or fund all the interventions he supports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Mornin Comrade. We're not speaking to occupation. The Iraq occupation you've already erred on as well, it's a broader theme. Associating Cheney a nice deflection, we're speaking to your...…..donttread's analysis on the Islamic State focused specifically on previous statements made between late 2014 and late 2015.

    You specifically donttread…..were claiming fake threat. Boogieman. To consider not occupation....not a democracy inserted.....considering mere US involvement you vehemently opposed. You mocked threat analysis that ISIS had spread, was recruiting heavily. You mocked reports they were challenging al-Qaeda on a global scale, you urged we bring it all home, ignore the crisis.

    I asked that you consider that the US might be the only nation capable of the firepower needed to extract ISIS and you mocked that. A doctors without borders hospital worker was, an American, was raped and murdered by ISIS and when this Member called out enough is enough, you mocked that as well. Not one month before Paris.....donttread, came your now infamous what possible threat does ISIS pose this country. Followed by the Paris attacks and the Russian airliner brought down, the ISIS threat became clear to so many.

    And of course.....what actually did roll ISIS back, what actually did defuse their influence....was direct and overt US military involvement and which of the 4 in the debate at the time was calling for such action he considered inevitable and necessary for a year prior?

    You believe western intervention is the answer . I believe western intervention has become a huge part of the problem. We have intervened in the ME for decades and it is a complete mess.
    Anyway we disagree. Period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransom View Post
    Oh, I am leaving foreign policy up to you, @Peter1469. And @Ethereal. And @donttread. I urge all three of you to continue spouting, winging, and thrusting yourselves into the foreign policy analyses here, number one it provides me entertainment. Two, it provides a record I can post up here and roar in laughter while you three try to defend that record.

    For we know that even those to the left of we Neocons urged airstrikes against ISIS in Iraq The British Parliament in fact approved airstrikes in Iraq....not in Syria....but in Iraq against ISIS as early as September 2014. The British Parliament not exactly your Neocon proponents by Dec of 2015 had approved airstrikes inside Syria, ISIS apparent and very recognizable to the English.

    The French.....we know how the French responded don't we? By December of 2015, they are striking in Syria, attacking ISIS in Raqqa. They claimed that prior to that any attacks on ISIS might inadvertently support Assad's government by killing Assad's enemies......but the French after losing 129 at that concert venue.....wanted blood.

    The United States as well finally woke up. Finally recognized what some Observers predicted would be unrecognizable.
    Alea iacta est

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    Mattis’s Last Stand Is Iran

    Actually, the premise of this thread is false. Mattis’ Last stand? Huh? WTF?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The only way that I would support direct action against Iran would be if Iran first closed the Straight of Hormuz. And that would not last long. Iran's air force, navy and shore based weapons would be destroyed in under a week. The Fifth Fleet and our Arab allies could do it without putting boots on the ground.
    Trump is not seeking a direct military confrontation with Iran. This thread is nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Trump is not seeking a direct military confrontation with Iran. This thread is nonsense.

    It seldom starts out as direct confrontation. Remember the "advisors" who were sent to Nam? But meddling and controlism are meddling and controlism and they have their consequences.

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