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    I said Scalia, who you adore, isn't a god. I gave an example. It wasn't a deflection since I challenged you otherwise. Don't play word games or mind games with me. You don't have the talent. Let's just stick to old-fashioned disagreement or agreement.

    When you're right I'll agree with you. When your wrong I'll let you know so you can learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Scalia wasn't a god. He though t that government agencies had more "belief" in courts too.

    Blame Robert's. he was on the court. Kavanaugh wasn't.

    He is not a risky choice. Neither was Roberts. Roberts has been just fine most of the time.

    Showing you a fire wouldn't be enough for you. Throwing you in it to see how hot it was wouldn't make you think it wasn't a trick.

    You normality status is at risk I think. There is another group besides normal and abnormals. There aberrants. You are borderline as is. Hopefully, you are having a bad day and can rejoin the normals.

    I think Kavanaugh is a good choice. I'm sure there will be an occasion where he takes a side some conservatives would disagree with, but even a solid constitutional conservative such as Justice Scalia sometimes did the same.


    Roberts did err in that he re-wrote part of the ACA to make it fit into a box which could make it constitutional. That is not the job of the court. Given his otherwise conservative record, why he did that is inexplicable.


    MV will never forgive Roberts for that. Disagree with him once and it's all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    And when you are wrong, you are wrong.
    I suppose I have been wrong from time to time. I cannot recall any times.

    Fortunately, I am not wrong. Unfortunately, you are.

    I showed you Scalia's dissent where Scalia describes that Roberts rewrote the statute to turn a penalty written into the law into a tax (that was not in the law). I described for you Kavanaugh, debating with one of the attorneys on the same point arguing that the penalty written into law as a penalty could be considered a tax despite the tax not being written into law.

    I believe anyone who would make the argument that judges can turn one law into another are dangerous to our liberties. You dissent.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    This is why you fail.


    That was a strike against it. But not the only strike.

    You err yet again. I quoted Scalia's dissent. Did you read it? Or was it too difficult?
    You are wrong. The troubling part, for you anyway, is that you are too stubborn and prideful to acknowledge it. That ensures that you will continue to be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    I said Scalia, who you adore, isn't a god. I gave an example. It wasn't a deflection since I challenged you otherwise. Don't play word games or mind games with me. You don't have the talent. Let's just stick to old-fashioned disagreement or agreement.

    When you're right I'll agree with you. When your wrong I'll let you know so you can learn.
    Whether Scalia is a god or not or whether I adore Scalia or not was not relevant. Scalia did dissent. I quoted Scalia's dissent. If you want to say you reject Scalia's argument, that is one thing. But you didn't.

    If you don't care for "word games" given that the law is all about words and what they mean, maybe you should retire from this argument.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    You are wrong. The troubling part, for you anyway, is that you are too stubborn to acknowledge it. That ensures that you will continue to be wrong.
    If I am wrong you should be able to show it. But you are unable.

    The troubling part, for you anyway, is that you are too stubborn to acknowledge it. That ensures that you will continue to be wrong.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    If I am wrong you should be able to show it. But you are unable.

    The troubling part, for you anyway, is that you are too stubborn to acknowledge it. That ensures that you will continue to be wrong.

    You're a tool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    I think Kavanaugh is a good choice. I'm sure there will be an occasion where he takes a side some conservatives would disagree with, but even a solid constitutional conservative such as Justice Scalia sometimes did the same.


    Roberts did err in that he re-wrote part of the ACA to make it fit into a box which could make it constitutional. That is not the job of the court. Given his otherwise conservative record, why he did that is inexplicable.


    MV will never forgive Roberts for that. Disagree with him once and it's all over.
    Roberts betrayed his oath of office where he swore to support and defend the Constitution. Kavanaugh did the same thing with the same part of the same law. There is no reason to believe Kavanaugh will be any more reliable than Roberts. That is not fine with me. It is fine with you.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    If I am wrong you should be able to show it. But you are unable.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    You're a tool.
    if true I am at least us useful tool. You are a broken, worthless tool.

    Maybe that is why you cannot show me my error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    If I am wrong you should be able to show it. But you are unable.

    if true I am t least us useful tool. You are a broken, worthless tool.

    Maybe that is why you cannot show me my error.

    Lol.....

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