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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Lol.....
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    When you disagree with MV he becomes irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    It Was as a tax. That doesn't mean it was constitutional. Either purchase a product or pay a tax.


    The federal government was still requiring you to purchase a product. That is indeed unconstitutional.
    It was never a tax, nor was it ever intended to be. Obama, you know, the guy who's name is on the thing, slathered on about how it WASN'T a tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    Whether you call it a tax or a penalty is immaterial.
    Nonsense, it is a very important distinction.

    That is not what should have made the ACA declared unconstitutional. It was unconstitutional because the federal government was mandating that you purchase a product or face the imposition of a tax or penalty. That is overstepping their authority.

    The late great Justice Scalia said the same thing.

    That is the truth.
    Could you please quote Scalia saying it was a tax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    MV is one of these guys who needs 100% agreement with his views. With him if you disagree on any issue he considers you an enemy of the nation.
    Ronald Reagan had a good quote on this matter. (I can only paraphrase: But it went something like this):

    If a person agrees with you 80 percent of the time, he should be considered an 80 percent friend--not a 20 percent enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    When did you decide to start lying?
    There is a logical fallacy known as The Fallacy of the Complex Question.

    Basically, it is two questions rolled into one.

    The classical example of it is this:

    When did you stop beating your wife?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjohns View Post
    Ronald Reagan had a good quote on this matter. (I can only paraphrase: But it went something like this):

    If a person agrees with you 80 percent of the time, he should be considered an 80 percent friend--not a 20 percent enemy.

    MV is no Ronald Reagan.

    Whats really odd about MV’s position is that the left is hyperventilating over Kavanaugh’s demonstrated hostility to the ACA. MV claims the exact opposite about the guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    It was never a tax, nor was it ever intended to be. Obama, you know, the guy who's name is on the thing, slathered on about how it WASN'T a tax.
    You have no idea why the ACA should have been declared unconstitutional and it had nothing to do with whether or not it contained a tax or penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    You have no idea why the ACA should have been declared unconstitutional and it had nothing to do with whether or not it contained a tax or penalty.
    Lol, I have no idea? Why, because you say so? You're smarter than Alito, Thomas, Scalia, and even Kennedy? Oooo-kay.

    BTW, I've never mentioned what I think about the constitutionally of Obama care. Are you some kinda mind reader?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    I suppose I have been wrong from time to time. I cannot recall any times.

    Fortunately, I am not wrong. Unfortunately, you are.

    I showed you Scalia's dissent where Scalia describes that Roberts rewrote the statute to turn a penalty written into the law into a tax (that was not in the law). I described for you Kavanaugh, debating with one of the attorneys on the same point arguing that the penalty written into law as a penalty could be considered a tax despite the tax not being written into law.

    I believe anyone who would make the argument that judges can turn one law into another are dangerous to our liberties. You dissent.
    You were misled about Kavanaugh.



    Kavanaugh’s thorough and principled takedown of the mandate was indeed a roadmap for the Supreme Court—the Supreme Court dissenters, justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, Clarence Thomas, and Samuel Alito, who explained that the mandate violated the Constitution. I am very familiar with that opinion, because I served as Kennedy’s law clerk that term. I can tell you with certainty that the only justices following a roadmap from Brett Kavanaugh were the ones who said Obamacare was unconstitutional....snip~


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