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    New Seattle Gun Law Leaves Homeowners Unprepared For A Break-In

    New Seattle Gun Law Leaves Homeowners Unprepared For A Break-In
    Molly Prince

    Seattle passed a law Monday requiring gun owners to store firearms unloaded and in a secured container.
    CB119266 was passed unanimously by the Seattle City Council and makes it a civil infraction to keep firearms unlocked or loaded while not under control of the owner, imposing a fine of up to $500.
    Violating the ordinance can result in even higher penalties, up to $1,000, if the firearm is accessible to a minor or an “at-risk” person. It can incur penalties of up to $10,000 if a minor, “at-risk” person or prohibited possessor obtains the firearm and uses it to harm oneself or another
    “This is the kind of action we need to save lives,” Democratic Mayor Jenny Durkan said in a statement. “While we can’t prevent every gun death or injury, we can take steps to help prevent future tragedies.”
    “Seattle is unafraid to be a leader and take legislative action on measures to reduce and prevent gun violence,” Durkan continued.
    Gun rights advocates have long opposed mandatory storage requirements, arguing that circumstances between gun owners vary widely — a gun owner in a rural area has different needs than that of a gun owner with children in a city.
    A study on safe-storage gun laws found that such requirements actually increased instances of property crime and violent crime, but had no significant impact on juvenile suicides or accidental gun deaths.
    Second Amendment organizations such as the Gun Owners of America and the National Rifle Association argue that safe-storage laws render a firearm useless in a self-defense emergency, such as a break-in.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/11/se...aw-homeowners/

    This is no different than establishing gun free zones (In an Individual's home!!!!) which never work.
    So nice of him to make his citizens a target. And those idiots keep putting these dangerous people in office.
    Note: They know it wont reduce the number of suicides. So guess what's next? Banning all guns.
    I wonder now, the status of the citizen's 4th A and 5th A. I think the private sector has to register their guns, there goes the 5th...and since they are registered and have surrendered their 5th A, does that mean all registered gun owners are subject to warrantless searches as well? (4th A)
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    My father never kept any of his firearms locked up. He just told my brother and I that if we ever touched them without his permission there would be hell to pay. We took him at his word.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLLS View Post
    My father never kept any of his firearms locked up. He just told my brother and I that if we ever touched them without his permission there would be hell to pay. We took him at his word.
    A mentally ill or developmentally disabled child may not heed warnings.

    That said, this law is somewhat similar to an aspect of Canadian law. There are not many break-ins that occur when people are home and not many that turn violent when they are. I am not sure what Seattle's crime rate is like, but I don't think this would pass unless resident support was high enough - no one wants to hurt their re-election chances. Hard to feel indignant when it's probably something that has local support.

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    It is a bad law. Those who voted for it should be tarred and feathered and sent to Canada.
    “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.” - Barry Goldwater

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    This is unenforceable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    A mentally ill or developmentally disabled child may not heed warnings.

    That said, this law is somewhat similar to an aspect of Canadian law. There are not many break-ins that occur when people are home and not many that turn violent when they are. I am not sure what Seattle's crime rate is like, but I don't think this would pass unless resident support was high enough - no one wants to hurt their re-election chances. Hard to feel indignant when it's probably something that has local support.
    and your average scofflaw would not pay much attention to the law either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adelaide View Post
    A mentally ill or developmentally disabled child may not heed warnings.

    That said, this law is somewhat similar to an aspect of Canadian law. There are not many break-ins that occur when people are home and not many that turn violent when they are. I am not sure what Seattle's crime rate is like, but I don't think this would pass unless resident support was high enough - no one wants to hurt their re-election chances. Hard to feel indignant when it's probably something that has local support.
    It wouldn't pass Constitutional scrutiny. An unloaded gun is just a stick.

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    How are they going to know? Who's going to be checking? Ridiculous. Pass more laws, go ahead. Smart people will ignore the ones that are detrimental to their own safety.

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    I once saw a comedian, forget which one, on television who had the following routine. Going from memory so it might not be entirely accurate.

    Was stopped by a police officer the other day. He noticed my pistol and asked if it was loaded. I replied without bullets all it does is go clickety, clickety, clickety.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahuyaman View Post
    This is unenforceable.
    It depends on HOW they enforce it.............
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