Private Server vs GMail

[DLLS]

This is a question mainly for liberals but others can opine since, with the election of Trump, it is still a free country.

It seems that when I watch a news program and Hillary's use of a private server comes up someone on the left will always chime in about some republican or republican appointee that had a gmail account that they used while working for the government.

Since I am relatively new to computers and computer technology (my first "system" was a Timex-Sinclair 1000 which saved programs on cassette tape) exactly how is a GMail account the same as using a private server to send and receive emails?

In one instance isn't the preservation of emails controlled by law where in the other instance preservation of emails is dependent on the person who set up the private server?

I would really like to know.

[DLLS]

Oh I still have the Timex-Sinclair 1000 complete with the 16K memory expansion module and thermal printer (unfortunately no paper).

[MMC]

With a private server one has full and complete control over the entire email server. With G Mail they do not have full control. Have to rely on others that host the G Mail.

[midcan5]

One part of my responsibility at a major corporation for many years was email and other communication methods. I had complete responsibility. The piece most people miss in their discussion of email is the systems at the level of government and corporations have instant replication and backup. Hillary government email would have been backed up on government systems if they were contained in the destination. As far as security your private sever would offer more security than gmail which is open to any system administrator. That's how information is leaked, ck Snowden for instance. Email is not a conversation in a sound proof room. Powell, Rice. Ivanka, Jared etc etc were more open to tampering than Hillary. Thus Podesta's stupid mistake.


If anyone is interested in the truth concerning this topic please check page 139 of 'The Destruction of Hillary Clinton' by Susan Bordo. None of the information that was later marked classified was marked that way when Hillary received it. Also Hillary's private use of an email server was - as I have noted many times having managed email for a major corporation - was an OK procedure with the State dept when HRC was secretary of state, that only changed afterwards. No one on the right will care about the truth as they elected a man so inept, they'll spend the next four year pleading loyalty and excusing his constant stupidity. Comey was right in his decision, but the manner etc in which he did it bizarre and wrong. For those who want to understand how this could happen read the book.

'The Destruction of Hillary Clinton' by Susan Bordo p 141

"The Inspector General confirmed what we have known all along-that Secretary Clinton followed the practice of her predecessor when she used a personal email account. While Secretary Clinton preserved and returned tens of thousands of pages of her emails to the Department for public release, Secretary Powell returned none. Republicans need to stop wasting taxpayer dollars singling out Secretary Clinton just because she is running for President. If Republicans really care about transparency, they will work constructively with Democrats to focus on fixing what this report shows are longstanding, systemic flaws in the State Department's record keeping practices for decades.

Cummings's press release was substantiated by a piece in Forbes magazine, which concluded, that as regards Clinton's handling of emails, the evaluation "does not add any new serious charges or adverse facts" about Clinton but rather retraces a "dreary history of records and archival policy" involving "general problems" with printing and filing emails in a retrievable way that should not be "pinned" on Clinton. The piece concludes: "A report that says so little new against Clinton, amounts to a vindication."

"The Inspector General confirmed what we have known all along-that Secretary Clinton followed the practice of her predecessor when she used a personal email account. While Secretary Clinton preserved and returned tens of thousands of pages of her emails to the Department for public release, Secretary Powell returned none. Republicans need to stop wasting taxpayer dollars singling out Secretary Clinton just because she is running for President. If Republicans really care about transparency, they will work constructively with Democrats to focus on fixing what this report shows are longstanding, systemic flaws in the State Department's record keeping practices for decades.

Cummings's press release was substantiated by a piece in Forbes magazine, which concluded, that as regards Clinton's handling of emails, the evaluation "does not add any new serious charges or adverse facts" about Clinton but rather retraces a "dreary history of records and archival policy" involving "general problems" with printing and filing emails in a retrievable way that should not be "pinned" on Clinton. The piece concludes: "A report that says so little new against Clinton, amounts to a vindication."

p141 'The Destruction of Hillary Clinton' by Susan Bordo

[MMC]

One part of my responsibility at a major corporation for many years was email and other communication methods. I had complete responsibility. The piece most people miss in their discussion of email is the systems at the level of government and corporations have instant replication and backup. Hillary government email would have been backed up on government systems if they were contained in the destination. As far as security your private sever would offer more security than gmail which is open to any system administrator. That's how information is leaked, ck Snowden for instance. Email is not a conversation in a sound proof room. Powell, Rice. Ivanka, Jared etc etc were more open to tampering than Hillary. Thus Podesta's stupid mistake.


If anyone is interested in the truth concerning this topic please check page 139 of 'The Destruction of Hillary Clinton' by Susan Bordo. None of the information that was later marked classified was marked that way when Hillary received it. Also Hillary's private use of an email server was - as I have noted many times having managed email for a major corporation - was an OK procedure with the State dept when HRC was secretary of state, that only changed afterwards. No one on the right will care about the truth as they elected a man so inept, they'll spend the next four year pleading loyalty and excusing his constant stupidity. Comey was right in his decision, but the manner etc in which he did it bizarre and wrong. For those who want to understand how this could happen read the book.

'The Destruction of Hillary Clinton' by Susan Bordo p 141

"The Inspector General confirmed what we have known all along-that Secretary Clinton followed the practice of her predecessor when she used a personal email account. While Secretary Clinton preserved and returned tens of thousands of pages of her emails to the Department for public release, Secretary Powell returned none. Republicans need to stop wasting taxpayer dollars singling out Secretary Clinton just because she is running for President. If Republicans really care about transparency, they will work constructively with Democrats to focus on fixing what this report shows are longstanding, systemic flaws in the State Department's record keeping practices for decades.

Cummings's press release was substantiated by a piece in Forbes magazine, which concluded, that as regards Clinton's handling of emails, the evaluation "does not add any new serious charges or adverse facts" about Clinton but rather retraces a "dreary history of records and archival policy" involving "general problems" with printing and filing emails in a retrievable way that should not be "pinned" on Clinton. The piece concludes: "A report that says so little new against Clinton, amounts to a vindication."

"The Inspector General confirmed what we have known all along-that Secretary Clinton followed the practice of her predecessor when she used a personal email account. While Secretary Clinton preserved and returned tens of thousands of pages of her emails to the Department for public release, Secretary Powell returned none. Republicans need to stop wasting taxpayer dollars singling out Secretary Clinton just because she is running for President. If Republicans really care about transparency, they will work constructively with Democrats to focus on fixing what this report shows are longstanding, systemic flaws in the State Department's record keeping practices for decades.

Cummings's press release was substantiated by a piece in Forbes magazine, which concluded, that as regards Clinton's handling of emails, the evaluation "does not add any new serious charges or adverse facts" about Clinton but rather retraces a "dreary history of records and archival policy" involving "general problems" with printing and filing emails in a retrievable way that should not be "pinned" on Clinton. The piece concludes: "A report that says so little new against Clinton, amounts to a vindication."

p141 'The Destruction of Hillary Clinton' by Susan Bordo

To bad the FBI, and the State Dept itself validated that Hillary's Private server was not backed up with security at times. Like when she switched out.


Moreover after the DSO complained about her Asian trip. She ran out immediately and got the security certification.

[Captdon]

Clinton deleted and scrubbed 30,000 emails. We have no way of knowing what was in them. I see no reason for her to have done that. She also did it after a subpoena was issued for them. That's a crime right there. Her private server was hacked by the Russians and the documents given to Wiki-leaks.

She got away with something she should have been jailed for.

[midcan5]

Clinton deleted and scrubbed 30,000 emails. We have no way of knowing what was in them. I see no reason for her to have done that. She also did it after a subpoena was issued for them. That's a crime right there. Her private server was hacked by the Russians and the documents given to Wiki-leaks. She got away with something she should have been jailed for.

@Captdon

Clinton's lawyers reviewed her emails. We know what was in them. And you cannot delete a sent email as it resides in multiple places thus the laptop that helped Comey help elect a complete moron as president - that was Weiner's wife's PC which contained lots of those so called scrubbed emails. Dumb term used to pull the wool over the eyes of the lambs. You guys are easily played and believe what fits your bigotry. I quoted enough info above. The morons in congress wasted millions investigating Hillary's email and came up with nothing. Technology is often made complicated so as to confuse the easily confused.

[Captdon]

@Captdon

Clinton's lawyers reviewed her emails. We know what was in them. And you cannot delete a sent email as it resides in multiple places thus the laptop that helped Comey help elect a complete moron as president - that was Weiner's wife's PC which contained lots of those so called scrubbed emails. Dumb term used to pull the wool over the eyes of the lambs. You guys are easily played and believe what fits your bigotry. I quoted enough info above. The morons in congress wasted millions investigating Hillary's email and came up with nothing. Technology is often made complicated so as to confuse the easily confused.

Clinton's lawyers? Yea, that settles it. She was using a private server that she scrubbed.33,000 have disappeared. Since we don't now who they were sent to we have no way to track them. She was using a private server. You know better than to say they could have been recovered. Bad excuse.

I know how the net works too. I've had web sites and designed web sites with e-mail functions for 25 years. I know what a private server can do that G-mail can't. Try this on someone who doesn't know how the net works.

The middle Americans voted who they wanted and also saved is from a hack President, a disgrace to women and a crook. Got it?

[midcan5]

To bad the FBI, and the State Dept itself validated that Hillary's Private server was not backed up with security at times. Like when she switched out.

@MMC

Huh? that made no sense, you said nothing, source please, please try not to look dumb. Switch off? ????

[MMC]

@MMC

Huh? that made no sense, you said nothing, source please, please try not to look dumb. Switch off? ????

Switched out not switched off.....duh.


Why Clinton's Private Email Server Was Such a Security ...

https://www.wired.com/2015/03/clintons-email-server-vulnerable
Hillary Clinton's homebrew email solution potentially left the communications of the top US foreign affairs official vulnerable to state-sponsored hackers. Why Clinton's Private Email Server Was Such a Security Fail



For 3 months Hillary Clinton’s email was unencrypted, …

fortune.com/2015/03/11/hillary-clinton-email-unsecure
Venafi, a Salt Lake City computer security firm, has conducted an analysis of clintonemail.com and determined that “for the first three months of Secretary Clinton’s term, access to the server was not encrypted or authenticated with a digital certificate.” In other words: For three months, Clinton’s server lay vulnerable to snooping, hacking, …