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    Fight Against $15: Democrats Push To Repeal Minimum Wage Hike In Nation's Capital

    Here we go again, but this time it's liberals awakening to the folly of their ways.

    Fight Against $15: Democrats Push To Repeal Minimum Wage Hike In Nation's Capital

    "Fight for $15" is the rallying cry for most Democrats these days. But soon after Washington, D.C., voters approved a hike in tipped wages to $15, Democrats on the city council moved to repeal it. That's what happens when ideology crashes into reality.

    On Tuesday, 7 of the 13 members of Washington's city council sponsored a bill to jettison the wage hike for tipped workers that 56% of D.C. voters had approved by a ballot initiative less than a month before.

    ...Keep in mind that D.C. is about as heavily Democratic as you can get. It went for Hillary Clinton by a 91%-4% margin.

    But the D.C. council members came to understand what economists — and D.C. restaurant workers themselves — already know. Sharp increases in the minimum wage will cost lost hours, lost jobs and lost income....

    ...Not only would the wage hike pretty much eliminate tips — why tip when the waiter is already making as much as everyone else? — it would almost certainly make workers who keep their jobs worse off financially, since they'd have to pay taxes on every dollar of income.

    ...This wage mandate, just like the one the council is trying to repeal, will also end up hurting the very people it's supposed to help.

    That's not speculation. It's what happened in Seattle, which four years ago decided to gradually hike the city's minimum to $15. Researchers from the University of Washington found that the average low-wage worker lost $125 a month as the mandate took effect and employers cut back on hours and jobs.

    Other parts of the country are catching on as evidence rolls in of the job-killing side effect of these mandated wage hikes. The mayor of heavily Democratic Baltimore vetoed a minimum-wage bill last year. The city council in Flagstaff, Ariz., decided to scrap the planned hike to $12, and cap it at $10.50....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Here we go again, but this time it's liberals awakening to the folly of their ways.

    Fight Against $15: Democrats Push To Repeal Minimum Wage Hike In Nation's Capital
    Keep it. It will empty the place.
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    Note to liberals: There is this thing called overhead that employers must deal with. When something happens that increases the overhead an employer has to make certain decisions. Sometimes these decisions are to cut the staff they currently have or to cut the hours of the staff they currently have.

    Employers do not have money trees growing in their back yards despite what the liberals think.
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    If that ballot initiative only got 56% in DC, that is pretty bad (reminds me of numerous liberal policies in the past that have polled well but failed miserably at the ballot box). It means that even a lot of Democrats don't trust that it would work. But I don't think the DNC wants to implement it. They'd rather just run on it and not worry about the risks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeb! View Post
    If that ballot initiative only got 56% in DC, that is pretty bad (reminds me of numerous liberal policies in the past that have polled well but failed miserably at the ballot box). It means that even a lot of Democrats don't trust that it would work. But I don't think the DNC wants to implement it. They'd rather just run on it and not worry about the risks.
    Seattle found it didn't work, but they're stuck with their precious legislation just the same. One thing they found is that people found it removed them from the list of people who wanted free things.
    Liberals usually cannot do math very well.
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    Thats why employers love Illegal immigrants they dont pay them min wage they pay them what they want and they cant complain about it.

    I was for a hike in the minimum wage when it was 8.00 but to shoot it to 15.00 was way too overboard. 10 and eventually 11.00 is more realistic.

    The national restaurant association that may not be the exact title announced it was going to make a move to remove tipping from restaurants. They have started trials around the country, where restaurants Post NO TIPPING NECESSARY its included in your bill.

    They gave restaurant workers a wage above min wage, its not working well, first restaurants had to raise prices, restaurant workers lost alot of income and some customers didnt like it.

    My my youngest daughter back when in college for 3 summers worked in a friends Restaurant, she made ALOT OF MONEY, she never brought h ome less than 700 and many times well over a 1,000. Granted it was a resort beach area, but those gals made a good buck.

    There is a difference in how much you make by where you work in the restaurant industry many bar and wait staff DO NOT want 15.00 an hour they make a helluva lot more. Then theres many that would benefit by it that work in local luncheonettes and diners
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    Quote Originally Posted by Common View Post
    Thats why employers love Illegal immigrants they dont pay them min wage they pay them what they want and they cant complain about it.

    I was for a hike in the minimum wage when it was 8.00 but to shoot it to 15.00 was way too overboard. 10 and eventually 11.00 is more realistic.

    The national restaurant association that may not be the exact title announced it was going to make a move to remove tipping from restaurants. They have started trials around the country, where restaurants Post NO TIPPING NECESSARY its included in your bill.

    They gave restaurant workers a wage above min wage, its not working well, first restaurants had to raise prices, restaurant workers lost alot of income and some customers didnt like it.

    My my youngest daughter back when in college for 3 summers worked in a friends Restaurant, she made ALOT OF MONEY, she never brought h ome less than 700 and many times well over a 1,000. Granted it was a resort beach area, but those gals made a good buck.

    There is a difference in how much you make by where you work in the restaurant industry many bar and wait staff DO NOT want 15.00 an hour they make a helluva lot more. Then theres many that would benefit by it that work in local luncheonettes and diners
    The minimum wage in some levels I believe it would be according to the level of life of the place. For example, the minimum wage should not be the same in New York as it is in Colorado, for example. However, it may bring more inequalities between states, it would be a starter to improve the life of the weakest ones.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Here we go again, but this time it's liberals awakening to the folly of their ways.

    Fight Against $15: Democrats Push To Repeal Minimum Wage Hike In Nation's Capital
    Note that's tipped wages.

    Most servers in this area earn well above $15hr making tips. This bill would effectively eliminate tips. However, I take issue with the second part. Servers are required to report their tips, therefore they pay taxes on them. In fact, in most cases employers report an average of tips on behalf of the server. If they don't make that much, they're screwed.

    Not only would the wage hike pretty much eliminate tips — why tip when the waiter is already making as much as everyone else? — it would almost certainly make workers who keep their jobs worse off financially, since they'd have to pay taxes on every dollar of income.
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    Raising the minimum in states that expanding Medicaid is the incentive for them wanting it to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Zero View Post
    Note that's tipped wages.

    Most servers in this area earn well above $15hr making tips. This bill would effectively eliminate tips. However, I take issue with the second part. Servers are required to report their tips, therefore they pay taxes on them. In fact, in most cases employers report an average of tips on behalf of the server. If they don't make that much, they're screwed.

    Not only would the wage hike pretty much eliminate tips — why tip when the waiter is already making as much as everyone else? — it would almost certainly make workers who keep their jobs worse off financially, since they'd have to pay taxes on every dollar of income.
    Indeed, most of those are complaining because it reduces tipping.
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