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Thread: Lincoln was NOT an abolitionist, and other misunderstandings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    Wait for it
    Wait for it.
    Yea, the Southern apologists.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Sometimes, though, myths, like that of the great Emancipator, are necessary to believe in.
    How is it a myth, if it actually happened?
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. Lincoln freed the slaves.

    That is what happened. Period.

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    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    How is it a myth, if it actually happened?
    Lincoln didn't free the slaves.

    Proclamation or not.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Breaking news: "Water is not wet"!

    “Conscientiously believing that the proper condition of the negro is slavery, or a complete subjection to the white man, and entertaining the belief that the day is not distant when the old Union will be restored with slavery nationally declared to be the proper condition of all of African descent, and in view of the future harmony and progress of all the States of America, I have been induced to issue this address, so that there may be no misunderstanding in the future”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Lincoln didn't free the slaves.

    Proclamation or not.
    Who did?
    Cutesy Time is OVER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Lincoln and the North fought to protect the Union.

    The south fought to protect slavery.

    How would the Baltimore, New York and Boston harbors have been effected by the south succeeding?

    You logic fails on this. The North did not want the union to be broken. The south only had one thing they wanted- cotton. Please don't tell me the war was over cotton.
    look at all the active seaports all along the Atlantic. Realize also that the south would have control of the Mississippi as well. They would have formed their own country, and charged their own tariffs, being they weren't part of the North.
    Also at that time, the country was powered by duties, import and export paid for DC's operating expenses. Income tax was non-existent. If they lost that income, the North would not have run, economically, the same way. It would have lost 2/3 or better of its income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Who did?
    13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Abolition of Slavery

    Passed by Congress on January 31, 1865, and ratified on December 6, 1865, the 13th amendment abolished slavery in the United States and provides that "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.".
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    How is it a myth, if it actually happened?
    Because he didn't. The 13th Amendment did.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
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    That should have never been ratified since the south had no actual representatives in that congress!

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