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    Thumbs up LBJ's WW2 Silver Star Medal.

    Was this future president's medal for gallantry earned? His family and the LBJ presidential library insist that it was. Others doubt it, and the facts don't support that he deserved it.

    Johnson you’ll recall was awarded the Silver Star for gallantry in the summer of 1942 by Douglas MacArthur. LBJ, then a member of Congress, had persuaded FDR to send him on an inspection tour of our forces in the Pacific. The trip had always seemed like a political stunt by a politician who wanted to burnish his credentials in anticipation of future campaigns for higher office. Johnson, who had been the first congressman after Pearl Harbor to sign up for active military duty, had agreed to fly as an observer on a single bombing mission over Lae, New Guinea. But before the plane could reach the target a generator went out, forcing the pilot to turn back home to base.

    This much is agreed on. Where accounts differ is on what happened next. Johnson always claimed the plane came under enemy fire. His Silver Star citation says, "As our planes neared the target area, they were intercepted by eight hostile fighters." A book published in 1964 quotes two members of the crew who substantiated Johnson’s story, adding that the future president was "cool as ice" under fire.

    But critics always suspected LBJ had inflated the danger he faced. Now there’s reason to believe they were right. The lone member of the crew still living, Bob Marshall, the gunner, insists the plane never came under fire that day."No way," Marshall told CNN. "No, that story was made up, put in there in my mind by the author of the book. 'Cause we never seen Zero, was never attacked. Nothing."

    After CNN aired the interview with Marshall, the son of another member of the crew came forward. Billy B. Boothe, Jr., said his father, the plane’s navigator, confirmed in a newspaper story in 1986 that the plane LBJ was on had not faced Japanese Zeros. The navigator told the paper he had tried to set the record straight at the time. "I called Air Force intelligence, said that I didn't necessarily go along with the book that was being written and what should I do? And they said don't make any comments unless I could go along with what was being said."

    The Johnson Library stands by Johnson’s account, noting that a contemporaneous diary entry written in Johnson’s hand indicates that the plane had indeed been fired upon. But the entry is ambiguous. Johnson may have been referring to the planes that continued on to Lae. They indeed came under fire.

    The only surprise here is that Robert Caro, whose biography of Lyndon “Bull $#@!” Johnson is famously withering, gives LBJ the benefit of the doubt. Though Caro is of the opinion that Johnson did not deserve the star—"Because if you accept everything that he said, he was still in action for no more than 13 minutes and only as an observer. Men who flew many missions, brave men, never got a Silver Star"—the biographer believes “the weight of the evidence at this moment is that the plane was attacked by Zeroes and that he was cool under fire." Caro, however, concedes that Johnson lied about the mission."I would say that it's an issue of exaggerations," Caro told CNN."He said that he flew on many missions, not one mission. He said that the crew members, the other members of the Air Force group, were so admiring of him that they called him Raider Johnson. Neither of these things are true. https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/153
    For most of his political life, Lyndon B Johnson wore a second world war military decoration for valour under fire despite never having seen combat, an investigation broadcast on CNN yesterday revealed.

    LBJ was awarded the Silver Star, the third-highest US combat medal, for a 1942 fact-finding mission over the Pacific while he was a Texas congressman and an acting lieutenant commander in the navy.

    The citation, issued in the name of General Douglas MacArthur, said the plane, a B-26 bomber, was "intercepted by eight hostile fighters" and that Johnson "evidenced coolness".

    In fact, according to surviving members of the crew, the plane developed mechanical problems before reaching its target and never came under fire. No other crew member received a medal for the mission.

    The biographer of LBJ, Robert Dallek, said the medal was the outcome of a deal with Gen MacArthur, under which Johnson was honoured in return for a pledge "that he would lobby the president, FDR, to provide greater resources for the southwest Pacific theatre".
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ews.humanities

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    1942: LBJ wins Silver Star for “coolness”

    In 1942 future United States president Lyndon Johnson was awarded a Silver Star, the nation’s third-highest military decoration – for showing “coolness” during a plane ride. Johnson was elected to the House of Representatives in 1937, weeks before his 29th birthday. When Pearl Harbour was bombed in December 1941 Johnson rushed to enlist in the Naval Reserve, probably thinking that military service would enhance his political prospects. In mid 1942 Johnson, by then sporting the rank of lieutenant commander, travelled to the Pacific theatre as an observer. There he became friendly with Douglas MacArthur, who allowed Johnson to ‘sit in’ on an aerial bombing raid against Japanese targets. On June 9th Johnson arrived at an airstrip in Port Moresby, New Guinea and boarded a B26 Marauder dubbed the Wabash Cannonball. Needing to “take a leak”, Johnson left the aircraft for a few minutes. On his return he found the seats occupied by other officers, forcing LBJ onto another B26, the Heckling Hare. As it turns out Johnson’s full bladder saved his life: the Wabash Cannonball was shot down over water near Lae, killing all on board.

    Johnson’s plane also came under attack from numerous Japanese Zeros and was forced to abandon its bombing mission. While the pilot, Lieutenant Walter Greer, struggled to evade the Zeros, and the air crew manned the guns, Johnson watched the whole show from his window seat. The attack lasted less than 13 minutes before the Heckling Hare slipped its pursuers and headed back to Moresby on one engine. Despite playing no active part in the mission Johnson was awarded the Silver Star – apparently for showing “coolness”:

    “While on a mission of obtaining information in the Southwest Pacific area, Lieutenant Commander Johnson, in order to obtain personal knowledge of combat conditions, volunteered as an observer on a hazardous aerial combat mission over hostile positions in New Guinea. As our planes neared the target area they were intercepted by eight hostile fighters… The plane in which Lieutenant Commander Johnson was an observer developed mechanical trouble and was forced to turn back alone, presenting a favourable target to the enemy fighters, [and] he evidenced marked coolness in spite of the hazards involved.”

    The Heckling Hare’s other crew members – including Lieutenant Greer, whose brilliant flying had saved Johnson’s life – were awarded no medal of any kind. Greer was not even aware of Johnson’s Silver Star until reading of it in the press. The men who died on the first B26, the Wabash Cannonball, received only the lower rated Purple Heart. As for Johnson he showed some initial embarrassment about his Silver Star, telling a Washington reporter he didn’t deserve the medal and drafting a letter declining to accept it. But accept it and wear it he did. When Johnson returned to the campaign trail in Texas his Silver Star, perhaps the least deserved military decoration in American history, became one of the most worn and referenced. Johnson continued to wear the Silver Star citation in the Senate, as vice president and during his tenure in the White House.
    https://alphahistory.com/pastpeculia...star-coolness/
    Johnson's biographer Robert Caro accepts Johnson's account, and supports it with testimony from the aircrew concerned: the aircraft was attacked, disabling one engine, and it turned back before reaching its objective, though remaining under heavy fire. Others claim that it turned back because of generator trouble before reaching the objective and before encountering enemy aircraft and never came under fire. This is supported by official flight records.

    Other airplanes that continued to the target came under fire near the target at about the same time that Johnson's plane was recorded as having landed back at the original airbase. MacArthur recommended Johnson for the Silver Star for gallantry in action: the only member of the crew to receive a decoration.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyndon_B._Johnson

    LBJ and Abe Fortas, close friend
    whom Johnson appointed to the
    Supreme Court. Fortas was forced
    to resign for ethics violations.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abe_Fortas

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    It was bull$#@!.He was an observer on one flight that was recalled. What could he have done to be awarded a Silver Star except be a Congressman? LBJ is the phoniest President in my lifetime.
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    Well, certainly if not for Obama he would be the phoniest president in my lifetime.

    LBJ gave us the Civil Rights Act, you know. So it isn't exactly just chance that these two democrats in particular are as phony as $3 bills.

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    LBJ pushed Civil Rights legislation through Congress because MLK threatened that if blacks didn't get passage, they'd burn down the country.

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    There seems to be a pattern of Democrats claiming to have come under fire under questionable conditiions

    First LBJ
    Then John Kerry
    Then Hillary.

    Who's next? Will Nancy Pelosi claim she was taken prisoner by the Taliban but managed to escape?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    Well, certainly if not for Obama he would be the phoniest president in my lifetime.

    LBJ gave us the Civil Rights Act, you know. So it isn't exactly just chance that these two democrats in particular are as phony as $3 bills.
    Disagree. The Civil Rights Act was the one thing he got correct. The right to vote is in the Constitution and LBJ asked Congress to pass a law to enforce the Constitution. The states were violating people's rights.

    He was an asswipe otherwise.
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    And now blacks are threatening ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    It was bull$#@!.He was an observer on one flight that was recalled. What could he have done to be awarded a Silver Star except be a Congressman? LBJ is the phoniest President in my lifetime.
    It may have been phoney then but it's Twitter now.

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    I have no energy to condemn a dead man that went to a war zone. Medal worthy? Who knows? I know I have not flown to a war zone.
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