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    Many People Don't Undestand What Socialism Is and What It Leads To.

    This should help.

    The National Socialist Party Platform of Germany.

    1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.



    On it's face, this a simple statement of unity.




    In reality, it was Hitler's basis for aggression against Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. If it had been permitted to continue, it would have formed a basis for his aggression against the United States, except circumstances intervened to make that unnecessary.




    2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.



    This was PERFECTLY reasonable.




    3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.



    Take from the rich (in land) and give to the poor (in land). Note that it was a "Demand", not a request with an offer to purchase.




    Totally Marxist.




    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.



    Again, there's nothing unreasonable about this, except, of course, for the racial aspect. Socialism has changed over the years to become inclusive of all idiots today. Because today the goal of socialism is globalism, and they don't care about any one particular country, so long as all countries are equally poor and only the Masters have power.




    Socialism has merely evolved, like Obama's views on $#@! marriage.




    5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.



    No sane person could argue against this. As I said, socialists have evolved to be "globalists", and are, by definition, insane. They seek today, as they did then, to undermine established governments with mobs. The pool they draw their mobs from has expanded, is all, so they now disagree with this plank merely because their goal of global enslavement is bigger than Hitler's socialist goal of Teutonic enslavement.




    6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

    We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.




    Today's Rodents demand that no public office, no matter how low, be held by an American. Only socialists are allowed. Hence their perpetual PMS over the valid election of Trump in the face of all their cheating to prevent it.




    7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.



    NOW we get into the meat of the socialist agenda of the National Socialists.




    "A chicken in every pot". Just like that socialist FDR.




    8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.



    Again, socialism has changed over the years. Now the socialists want to use Invaders to destroy the existing order to enslave whole native populations.




    9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.



    "AND DUTIES". Just like all good socialists insist today.




    10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.



    Can only work on projects approved by the state. Pure socialism.




    Therefore we demand:

    11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.




    That doesn't require translation.




    It's pure Socialist.




    12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.



    Whoops, no "corporate greed" allowed. Just like in all socialist regimes.




    And corporate profits were realized in selling Zyclon-B to the government, good crony socialism, just like in the US.




    13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.



    Anyone else recall all the Rodent hysteria over "big oil"? (But not Google or Microsoft or Fakebook, because they're appropriately left-wing?)




    14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.



    Share the wealth.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.



    Share the wealth.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.



    Stupid economic theories for "share the wealth" that cannot work, to appeal to the masses.




    Socialiam. ONLY socialism.




    17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.



    Routine land grab.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.



    Those evil businessmen.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.



    Abolishes precedents used with other precedents presently rejected.




    The great socialist Bimbette Ruth Buzzy Ginzberg (why isn't she dead?) demanded that US cases before the federal courts use precedents established in foreign nations rather then THE US CONSTITUION to create rulings the socialists would prefer.




    20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

    Free College, pre-Bernie.




    Total control of the child, just like today's goonion-dominated leftist "education" Establisment socialists in the US today.




    21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.



    Today the Rodents have compulsory "volunteer" requirements and prohibited speech zones, in which only leftist expressions are allowed.




    22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.



    Leftist Black Lies Matter and the Rodents increasing demands for separate courts and race-biased review boards in college and elsewhere.




    23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:



    (a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.



    (b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.



    (c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

    Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.




    Anti-fa.




    The Rodents efforts to criminalize dissenting expressions from honest people about the Anthropogenic Global Warming Hoax.




    The violent protests against President Trump and the AMERICANS that elected him.




    Censorship if the Internet by Google, Fakebook, Twitter and elsewhere.




    24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

    The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

    COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD




    Religious censorship pretending to be religious freedom.




    NOTE THE PHRASE "insofar as they do not ...OFFEND".




    The socialists of today use that as their Most Important Rule.




    25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.



    The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.



    The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.




    Demand for centralized power, as all socialists always do, everywhere.




    All the critical points are consistent with socialism as practiced at the time, and the evoluion of socialism since has occured to cover expanded goals to greater scope, but the same basic objective of despotism.


    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    # 3 was the concept of Lebensraum, or elbow room. It was Hitler's excuse to expand Germany east and south east for the German people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    This should help.

    The National Socialist Party Platform of Germany.

    [...]


    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.


    Again, there's nothing unreasonable about this, except, of course, for the racial aspect. Socialism has changed over the years to become inclusive of all idiots today. Because today the goal of socialism is globalism, and they don't care about any one particular country, so long as all countries are equally poor and only the Masters have power.
    The manipulation of history is historical. Its manipulation has everything to do with who would like to seem to be practical. But history shows, they have fooled themselves already, because it seems to be historical for Zionists to do so. It must be, for that seems to be the most practical thing. But the practice of usury is a big enough reason as to why people with common sense would choose Christian National Socialism, than continue to pay on interest accrued for the money their nation must borrow to supply their very own currency! You're all for advocating thievery, but your master is losing.

    You won't have enough money. That's because there won't be any. The dissolution of real wealth made cannot be paid for in money. It can only be derived from a people who recognizes the land they are resting upon still belongs to God. It is not theirs to spit upon, or to destroy its most innocent occupants within, who of man they may have not yet ever encountered. That is, a doe in a field, as to that of man, it has never encountered, but warned of, and yet, they as innocents would hope that being so cute, they would not be killed.

    Genesis 49:21, New International Version, "Naphtali is a doe set free that bears beautiful fawns". Set free, from where, when? When it gave birth to its children.

    The Fatherland is Germany and the Motherland is Russia, and so the Orient goes. There is little Israel that the Israel Defense Forces (I.D.F.) command for, but Egypt was built upon in order to incorporate power by a beholding of that water, where a lake bears his name, after taking apart the most impressive of all things because of a theses.



    The use of dams to hold back power, rather than leaving a river to flow as fast as it may travel, because it is a lie that the pyramids never had power. The encumbrances placed upon what God can fill is full of excuses to the extent that the last days are of this very hour.

    The Book of Revelation, as Asia had 7 churches. Don't act like you are above any of this. You master is losing, he shall be counting his losses. You're off-base in some of your points made in the critique of WWII Germany and the need for National Socialism at that particular historical moment, where all can draw from, that Jews suffered, but who knows what the Germans suffered because of their allegiance to doing what Hitler asked them to do. That was to take care of their families, be honest in business practices, never purchase cheap goods.

    The deliberate bombing of German supply trucks that carried the needed things to the same camps the Allies and Zionists had desired of Adolf Hitler to embark upon emptying Germany of its Jewish population. The mass manipulation of those same Jews that Hitler embarked upon, in order to cooperate with what he was told to do, or else, suffer under, as upon, which happened anyway, and the same is for the Jewish people today. That's because it has cost Jewish people, too, to see their citizenship spat upon by the U.N. and its spending powers.

    You think a German can be anyone who would like to be a citizen of Germany, that blood-lines have nothing to do with anything, even at this very hour of 'there are real angry racists'. That everyone is put their own identities away from who they are, what to they were born to, while you can play poor victim of what else? Just a citizen of the world system, that is what you prefer, so be it. A world government for the internationalists' assorted coffers. Idiots? Idiots are done from liking to be sent home inside of a coffin back to their families.

    The German National Socialists did not start poverty against their own people, but were countering what had been deliberately imposed upon them, and that is the severest of austerity measures by those who had made them their enemies. Some Germans who lived to tell, said that under 12 years of Adolf Hitler, those were their best times to have lived. You are hoping that raw capitalism will save you, but it won't, and then you will say, National Socialism is more the answer. But don't believe it one time. Fall in with the tares. It's your foolishness.
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
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    There's NOTHING "Christian" about ANY form of socialism.

    But the outcomes of National Socialism are typical of ALL forms of socialism if they're allowed to seize power.

    Death.
    War.
    Starvation.

    And, always, slavery.


    As far as I'm concerned, a German is anyone who wants to be one.

    I've no idea why anyone would want to be a German. Just look at them now.


    I'm an American. Not just anyone can be an American people can even be born as citizens of the United States (not Anchor Babies, though) and still not be an American.

    NOBODY who voted for Clinton or Bernie or the traitor born in Kenya can be considered an American. Traitors aren't Americans.
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    I think Alexandria Ocasio is the PERFECT face of Socialism, just look at the pearls of wisdom she spews at every opportunity.
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    Liberals idea of socialism will become their worst decision because corruption. lack of integrity and accountable is getting worst by the day by the people in powerful positions in this country. Promises of free stuff is never free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brat View Post
    I think Alexandria Ocasio is the PERFECT face of Socialism, just look at the pearls of wisdom she spews at every opportunity.
    Those choppers COME OUT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    Traitors aren't Americans.
    I dunno about that - the English colonists who became Americans in 1783 were certainly traitors according to the definition of the word.

    treason = (the crime of) showing no loyalty to your country, especially by helping its enemies or trying to defeat its government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    This should help.

    The National Socialist Party Platform of Germany.

    1. We demand the union of all Germans in a Great Germany on the basis of the principle of self-determination of all peoples.



    On it's face, this a simple statement of unity.




    In reality, it was Hitler's basis for aggression against Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland. If it had been permitted to continue, it would have formed a basis for his aggression against the United States, except circumstances intervened to make that unnecessary.




    2. We demand that the German people have rights equal to those of other nations; and that the Peace Treaties of Versailles and St. Germain shall be abrogated.



    This was PERFECTLY reasonable.




    3. We demand land and territory (colonies) for the maintenance of our people and the settlement of our surplus population.



    Take from the rich (in land) and give to the poor (in land). Note that it was a "Demand", not a request with an offer to purchase.




    Totally Marxist.




    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen. Hence no Jew can be a countryman.



    Again, there's nothing unreasonable about this, except, of course, for the racial aspect. Socialism has changed over the years to become inclusive of all idiots today. Because today the goal of socialism is globalism, and they don't care about any one particular country, so long as all countries are equally poor and only the Masters have power.




    Socialism has merely evolved, like Obama's views on $#@! marriage.




    5. Those who are not citizens must live in Germany as foreigners and must be subject to the law of aliens.



    No sane person could argue against this. As I said, socialists have evolved to be "globalists", and are, by definition, insane. They seek today, as they did then, to undermine established governments with mobs. The pool they draw their mobs from has expanded, is all, so they now disagree with this plank merely because their goal of global enslavement is bigger than Hitler's socialist goal of Teutonic enslavement.




    6. The right to choose the government and determine the laws of the State shall belong only to citizens. We therefore demand that no public office, of whatever nature, whether in the central government, the province, or the municipality, shall be held by anyone who is not a citizen.

    We wage war against the corrupt parliamentary administration whereby men are appointed to posts by favor of the party without regard to character and fitness.




    Today's Rodents demand that no public office, no matter how low, be held by an American. Only socialists are allowed. Hence their perpetual PMS over the valid election of Trump in the face of all their cheating to prevent it.




    7. We demand that the State shall above all undertake to ensure that every citizen shall have the possibility of living decently and earning a livelihood. If it should not be possible to feed the whole population, then aliens (non-citizens) must be expelled from the Reich.



    NOW we get into the meat of the socialist agenda of the National Socialists.




    "A chicken in every pot". Just like that socialist FDR.




    8. Any further immigration of non-Germans must be prevented. We demand that all non-Germans who have entered Germany since August 2, 1914, shall be compelled to leave the Reich immediately.



    Again, socialism has changed over the years. Now the socialists want to use Invaders to destroy the existing order to enslave whole native populations.




    9. All citizens must possess equal rights and duties.



    "AND DUTIES". Just like all good socialists insist today.




    10. The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.



    Can only work on projects approved by the state. Pure socialism.




    Therefore we demand:

    11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.




    That doesn't require translation.




    It's pure Socialist.




    12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.



    Whoops, no "corporate greed" allowed. Just like in all socialist regimes.




    And corporate profits were realized in selling Zyclon-B to the government, good crony socialism, just like in the US.




    13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.



    Anyone else recall all the Rodent hysteria over "big oil"? (But not Google or Microsoft or Fakebook, because they're appropriately left-wing?)




    14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.



    Share the wealth.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.



    Share the wealth.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.



    Stupid economic theories for "share the wealth" that cannot work, to appeal to the masses.




    Socialiam. ONLY socialism.




    17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.



    Routine land grab.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.



    Those evil businessmen.




    Socialism. ONLY socialism.




    19. We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.



    Abolishes precedents used with other precedents presently rejected.




    The great socialist Bimbette Ruth Buzzy Ginzberg (why isn't she dead?) demanded that US cases before the federal courts use precedents established in foreign nations rather then THE US CONSTITUION to create rulings the socialists would prefer.




    20. In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people. The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.

    Free College, pre-Bernie.




    Total control of the child, just like today's goonion-dominated leftist "education" Establisment socialists in the US today.




    21. The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.



    Today the Rodents have compulsory "volunteer" requirements and prohibited speech zones, in which only leftist expressions are allowed.




    22. We demand the abolition of the regular army and the creation of a national (folk) army.



    Leftist Black Lies Matter and the Rodents increasing demands for separate courts and race-biased review boards in college and elsewhere.




    23. We demand that there be a legal campaign against those who propagate deliberate political lies and disseminate them through the press. In order to make possible the creation of a German press, we demand:



    (a) All editors and their assistants on newspapers published in the German language shall be German citizens.



    (b) Non-German newspapers shall only be published with the express permission of the State. They must not be published in the German language.



    (c) All financial interests in or in any way affecting German newspapers shall be forbidden to non-Germans by law, and we demand that the punishment for transgressing this law be the immediate suppression of the newspaper and the expulsion of the non-Germans from the Reich.

    Newspapers transgressing against the common welfare shall be suppressed. We demand legal action against those tendencies in art and literature that have a disruptive influence upon the life of our folk, and that any organizations that offend against the foregoing demands shall be dissolved.




    Anti-fa.




    The Rodents efforts to criminalize dissenting expressions from honest people about the Anthropogenic Global Warming Hoax.




    The violent protests against President Trump and the AMERICANS that elected him.




    Censorship if the Internet by Google, Fakebook, Twitter and elsewhere.




    24. We demand freedom for all religious faiths in the state, insofar as they do not endanger its existence or offend the moral and ethical sense of the Germanic race.

    The party as such represents the point of view of a positive Christianity without binding itself to any one particular confession. It fights against the Jewish materialist spirit within and without, and is convinced that a lasting recovery of our folk can only come about from within on the pinciple:

    COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD




    Religious censorship pretending to be religious freedom.




    NOTE THE PHRASE "insofar as they do not ...OFFEND".




    The socialists of today use that as their Most Important Rule.




    25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.



    The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.



    The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.




    Demand for centralized power, as all socialists always do, everywhere.




    All the critical points are consistent with socialism as practiced at the time, and the evoluion of socialism since has occured to cover expanded goals to greater scope, but the same basic objective of despotism.


    Here, 'ya left out number 4:

    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/nsdappro.asp

    Why do you right-wingers have to lie and create what you want people to think?

    Socialism does not exist in this country, nor will it: it's not an American idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Here, 'ya left out number 4:

    4. Only those who are our fellow countrymen can become citizens. Only those who have German blood, regardless of creed, can be our countrymen Hence no Jew can be a countryman.

    http://avalon.law.yale.edu/imt/nsdappro.asp

    Why do you right-wingers have to lie and create what you want people to think?

    Socialism does not exist in this country, nor will it: it's not an American idea.
    Number 4 is listed under number 4. Hence the national in national socialism. Can you not help but embarrass yourself?

    lol
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