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Thread: Many People Don't Undestand What Socialism Is and What It Leads To.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Socialism as a concept started in Europe during the Reformation. The Diggers of England were the first communists using socialism as manner of control. So no, it's not an American idea. Moreover, in Germany the Volk were desirous of socialism in the wake of the crash of '29. What started as the German Worker's Party under Anton Drexler in 1919 became the National Socialism. The word attracted followers. IN the mean time Hitler was installing his SS into government and thus he became chancellor. Hitler's movement NEVER had anything to do with socialism.
    Socialism was invented by Emperor Wu-Ti of China (140-87 BC) by establishing national ownership of natural resources to prevent private individuals from "reserving to their sole use the riches of the mountains and sea in order to gain a fortune and then putting the lower classes into subjection to themselves." - "Our Oriental Heritage" by Will Durant, Simon & Schuster, 1954.

    For some obscure reason the old Chinese emperor did not call it by it's correct name, "socialism", either because he was a racist and didn't want to use the English term, or because he was a racist and just didn't know what English term would be used 2000 years in the future.

    And, oh, by the way....

    ...The OP PROVES your statement that Hitler wasn't a socialist to be a total pile of Rodent dropping as big as Rosie O'Donnell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    A good bit of this is not true. "A chicken in every pot" was Herbert Hoover. This looks like a cut and paste job with no reading. Some of it is true bit not all. It needs a good editing.
    Oh.

    So mis-attributing an largely irrelevant quote refutes the ENTIRE factual basis of the OP?

    It's got good editing.

    You don't have any real complaints.

    My style is kicking your ass and all you got is nits.

    Nuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    Before the war ended they were legally British subjects. He's trying to make a point not needed here.
    So....what's your problem?

    I refuted his point totally accurately.

    So you repeat MY point and then say I didn't refute his false statement?

    I know what's not needed here, but you have the freedom to post your lameness regardless.

    I have the freedom to laugh at the gimp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    I find some of Sargent Gleed's commentary to be incorrect .
    I would truly appreciate some input into any factual misstatements.

    Okay, @Captdon says that Hoobert Heever said "chicken in every pot". Need any more proof that he was an incompetent RINO trolling for votes? I'll check it out and if it's true I'll repair my commentary there.

    If you have some factual hits, don't be shy.

    However, his overall assessment is spot on. It has been said that socialism is the most evil philosophy ever devised by man. Since it runs counter to man's inner nature and his quest for freedom it will always decay into tyranny and ultimately barbarism.
    Socialism is in perfect alignment with Man's nature.

    Man, by nature is deceitful and desirous of controlling others. Socialists lie their asses off to steal property and gain control of others. They even lie and say that National Socialism isn't "socialism", and even when the very truth of the matter is posted in the OP, they DON'T STOP LYING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    You err. The British colonists were traitors. It is a great thing that we won.
    No.

    They were both British Colonists and the first American citizens.

    The transition happened when the Treaty of Pairs was signed on 3 Sep 1783.

    In attitude, by making war upon their lawful government, they were rebels and traitors...to the CROWN.

    If the war they started was lost, they would have been certain to be hung until dead.

    The Rodents that started the US Civil War were traitors, Democrats seeking to keep their slaves forever. They would have been patriots, but only to the Confederacy and only if they'd won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion Rules View Post
    What the Allies imposed upon Germany for practicing Christian National Socialism was war, starvation, death, and slavery for those who survived. It can be proven that such programs still existed way beyond 1945. ** *** **** ******* *** ***** ***.



    Never worry there. You will never qualify to be a German.
    What's "Christian" about ANY form of socialism? When did Jesus say it was okay to steal from your neighbor to give someone else free $#@! for votes?

    Cite the words of Jesus that authorizes the death camps of the Soviet Union, China, Cambodia, National Socialist Germany, or anywhere?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dangermouse View Post
    It's almost funny to watch the American far right deny their Nazi heritage by conflating it with their perverse interpretation of socialism. While parading with loser flags an "militiamen", harking back to the good old racist days.

    Socialism today is organised compassion.

    Which statements of the National Socialist platform which the OP identified as being socialist were materially inconsistent with the fascism practiced by the Democrats today?


    Why are you incapable of demonstrating the errors you claim to perceive in the OP and setting the record straight?



    Socialism today is what socialism always is everywhere and everywhen.

    Socialism is tyranny disguised as compassion for the poor.

    The history of socialism ALWAYS shows the poor schmucks supporting it getting screwed and slaughtered, and NEVER improving their lot in life.

    NEVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Hitler based National Socialism on Marxism, just as you do. Hitler added racism to Marxism just as the Democrats have.
    The Democrats were racist 80 years before Hitler was born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    The Greeks! OMG, socialism goes back to the earliest man living in tribes sharing things. (I jest but I've seen liberals on this forum claim that.)
    Actually, that was communism.

    Communism works in COMMUNES.

    A communes is not a commune if it is so large that detailed specialization is needed for the commune's proper function, and a commune cannot work if there are so many people that not every face is known to every person.

    Slackers are the natural result of all socialist systems, including large communes.

    And what else can you call someone who insists that someone else work to provide them with stuff they're too lazy to earn for themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Can you document any of that? How about just that weird definition of socialism: "Socialism today is organised compassion." Do you mean like supporting raising the minimum wage and hurting workers as a consequence?
    "Socialism is the good intentions"...that buy the socialists votes and put them into office.
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