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Thread: Op Ed: A few questions on Elections, Ethics and Impeachment

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    Elections haven't been ethical and politics has been a joke for the last 50+ years. Everyone is bought and paid for and it's all theater. At least Trump made the $#@! entertaining and rustled the establishment a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crepitus View Post
    tRumpkins gotta take everything so damn personal.
    Can we please keep this apolitical? I am trying to avoid politics in this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Elections haven't been ethical and politics has been a joke for the last 50+ years. Everyone is bought and paid for and it's all theater. At least Trump made the $#@! entertaining and rustled the establishment a bit.
    Is that what you prefer or do you think that there are lines that should not be crossed? What are your responses to the questions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Who View Post
    Is that what you prefer or do you think that there are lines that should not be crossed? What are your responses to the questions?
    I don't prefer it, I just don't agree with the pretense that these are new problems. Trump shined a light on it all if anything, he didn't start it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    Elections haven't been ethical and politics has been a joke for the last 50+ years. Everyone is bought and paid for and it's all theater. At least Trump made the $#@! entertaining and rustled the establishment a bit.

    Exactly why I stopped voting.

    I guess with some they believe next time it'll work, just like some believe next time socialism will work. It won't, it's the system itself that f*ed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Xl View Post
    I don't prefer it, I just don't agree with the pretense that these are new problems. Trump shined a light on it all if anything, he didn't start it.
    There is no pretence that these are new problems in general, but the questions in this OP, are focusing on the use of stolen information to discredit your opponent in an election. It would encompass information obtained from a stolen phone, through illegal wiretaps, bugging residences and offices as well as cybercrime. Is it acceptable for a candidate to use whatever dirt is available, no matter how it was obtained, to gain an advantage in an election? Should it be legal to do so?
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    Again, a reminder to all in this thread, leave out the personalities and politics. I don't want this to be about any particular politician.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Exactly why I stopped voting.

    I guess with some they believe next time it'll work, just like some believe next time socialism will work. It won't, it's the system itself that f*ed up.
    The system is not some regime imposed by extra-terrestrial overlords. Doesn't it depend on what the electorate will tolerate? If the system is corrupt, who is really responsible for that state of affairs? The corrupt politicians or the people who turn a blind eye and vote for them anyway?
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