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    Why Conservatives Find Life More Meaningful Than Liberals

    A somewhat loose comparison of conservatives and liberals to open discussion.

    Why Conservatives Find Life More Meaningful Than Liberals

    Any discussion of “conservatives” and “liberals” is going to reduce both down to caricatures, so let’s just state, for the record, that not all conservatives write “Christ follower” in their Twitter bios and not all liberals hate God and love composting. Social conservatives, Schwarz says, tend to think the world is the way it ought to be. They’re more resistant to cultural change, such as the transgender-rights movement. Liberals, meanwhile, are often evaluating why things just don’t seem right, why the lives of some people aren’t as good as those of others. “Once you start questioning things, a lot of stuff is up for consideration,” Schwarz says. The world tends to be less meaningful to people who think tradition is unimportant and everything can—and possibly should—change on a dime.

    “If you’re a person who has a clear sense of where they belong in society, and you’re a person who essentially looks to the past to established ways of living, it seems like a very short step to perceiving life as more ordered and meaningful,” said Colin Holbrook, a professor of cognitive sciences at the University of California at Merced.

    Others agreed that this, shall we call it, “the way things ought to be” hypothesis has some merit.

    “Conservatives are more likely to have the sense that there’s an order in their life, and a commitment to order gives people a sense of meaning as well,” said W. Bradford Wilcox, a sociologist and the director of the National Marriage Project at the University of Virginia. “To flip it, conservatives might be missing some nuances. For liberals, the capacity to see the gray in life might be valuable in some sense, but also not give them as clear a sense of meaning.”

    Conservatives also tend to be more “self-enhancing” than liberals are, says Peter Ditto, a psychologist at the University of California at Irvine. They tend to talk up how great their lives are and downplay their struggles. But it’s liberals who actually act happier, even if they say they aren’t, Ditto says. He found in a study that people affiliated with Democratic causes are more likely to show a genuine “Duchenne” smile—a “smile with your eyes,” as Tyra would say—and to use positive words in their speech.

    Then again, Ditto speculated, “the bar for meaning-in-life might just be lower for conservatives.” Ouch.

    And that’s the central problem in studies like these: People start to see them through the lens of their own political views....

    But the labels “liberal” and “conservative” don’t actually mean that much right at this current moment....
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    Speaking for myself, I don't see the negatives that Leftists tell me are right in front of my eyes. I want to fix me and I don't feel a need for my personal actions or promotion of state intervention in fixing what others tell me needs to be fixed.
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    I'm satisfied with my life. It has had its ups and downs but here I am, retired and living as well as I ever did. I made it through life with no help from liberals. I see a better nation today than when I was a kid. Liberals will never be happy since they need problems to solve to explain its existence.
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    What I got out of it was that the conservative tendency to preserve social customs, traditions, and institutions given them something steady and strong footing to stand on that the liberal tendency to undermine and change the social order doesn't.
    Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. ― Gustav Mahler

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    As is usual with these "let me tell you why liberals are awful people" threads, the premise is flawed.

    Conservatives aren't more satisfied with life. As the link says, conservatives _say_ they're more satisfied with life. Those are totally different things. That's why self-reported studies have to be taken with a big grain of salt, as the psychologist in the link does, because different groups have differing degrees of honesty.

    By conservative logic:
    ---
    All Good Christians are happy.
    If someone isn't happy, they're not a good Christian.
    I am obviously a Good Christian, so I must be happy.
    Thus, I'll say how happy I am, even if I'm not. Maybe I'll even make myself believe it.
    ---

    Liberals more often lack that motive to lie, hence they lie less often about the topic.

    If you want to know who's satisfied, watch how they act. Are they calm, serene and confident, like the liberals here? That's a big clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    As is usual with these "let me tell you why liberals are awful people" threads, the premise is flawed.

    Conservatives aren't more satisfied with life. As the link says, conservatives _say_ they're more satisfied with life. Those are totally different things. That's why self-reported studies have to be taken with a big grain of salt, as the psychologist in the link does, because different groups have differing degrees of honesty.

    By conservative logic:
    ---
    All Good Christians are happy.
    If someone isn't happy, they're not a good Christian.
    I am obviously a Good Christian, so I must be happy.
    Thus, I'll say how happy I am, even if I'm not. Maybe I'll even make myself believe it.
    ---

    Liberals more often lack that motive to lie, hence they lie less often about the topic.

    If you want to know who's satisfied, watch how they act. Are they calm, serene and confident, like the liberals here? That's a big clue.

    Yet the point of the OP is conservatives do say they feel life more meaninful than liberals, and for reasons I highlighted in post #4.

    Beyond that you say nothing of import, relevance or intelligence. The OP has nothing to do with religion yet you mutter nonsense about it, nothing about lies, yet you babble about it. And liberals are calm, serene and confident because you claim it's so, yet offer no reason for it being so--yet elsewhere you claim liberals like you are reasonable, and once again fail to demonstrate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    As is usual with these "let me tell you why liberals are awful people" threads, the premise is flawed.

    Conservatives aren't more satisfied with life. As the link says, conservatives _say_ they're more satisfied with life. Those are totally different things. That's why self-reported studies have to be taken with a big grain of salt, as the psychologist in the link does, because different groups have differing degrees of honesty.

    By conservative logic:
    ---
    All Good Christians are happy.
    If someone isn't happy, they're not a good Christian.
    I am obviously a Good Christian, so I must be happy.
    Thus, I'll say how happy I am, even if I'm not. Maybe I'll even make myself believe it.
    ---

    Liberals more often lack that motive to lie, hence they lie less often about the topic.

    If you want to know who's satisfied, watch how they act. Are they calm, serene and confident, like the liberals here? That's a big clue.
    Watching liberals screaming uselessly at the sky gives me pause that they are content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mamooth View Post
    As is usual with these "let me tell you why liberals are awful people" threads, the premise is flawed.

    Conservatives aren't more satisfied with life. As the link says, conservatives _say_ they're more satisfied with life. Those are totally different things. That's why self-reported studies have to be taken with a big grain of salt, as the psychologist in the link does, because different groups have differing degrees of honesty.

    By conservative logic:
    ---
    All Good Christians are happy.
    If someone isn't happy, they're not a good Christian.
    I am obviously a Good Christian, so I must be happy.
    Thus, I'll say how happy I am, even if I'm not. Maybe I'll even make myself believe it.
    ---

    Liberals more often lack that motive to lie, hence they lie less often about the topic.

    If you want to know who's satisfied, watch how they act. Are they calm, serene and confident, like the liberals here? That's a big clue.
    Your rebuttal proves the OPs and linked material relative and correct. Doh.
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    If a liberal woke tomorrow feeling the world was as it should be would they go back to sleep or caffeinated themselves enough to scream at the clouds and post angst?
    " I'm old-fashioned. I like two sexes! And another thing, all of a sudden I don't like being married to what is known as a 'new woman'. I want a wife, not a competitor. Competitor! Competitor!" - Spencer Tracy in 'Adam's Rib' (1949)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    A somewhat loose comparison of conservatives and liberals to open discussion.

    Why Conservatives Find Life More Meaningful Than Liberals
    You've gotta be kidding me.
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