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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Medicare, surely.

    I don't think SS is. People pay into that fund and so earn a return.
    Social security is a tax and a Ponzi Scheme. It is unconstitutional.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Social security is a tax and a Ponzi Scheme. It is unconstitutional.
    It is a Ponzi scheme, true. Tax, don't think so, though you are forced to pay it, when you should be able to opt out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It is a Ponzi scheme, true. Tax, don't think so, though you are forced to pay it, when you should be able to opt out.
    The government collects it through the use of force. It is a tax. You have no ownership. the Congress can take it away any time they choose.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lummy View Post
    That would make us all outlaw. Entitlements date back at least to the Great Depression.

    No $#@!? Really?

    Cite the Amendment to the Constitution that permits Congress to fund any of the following:

    Education.
    Art.
    Socialist Security.
    Health care for non-veteran civilians.
    Public Radio/Television
    Welfare.

    NONE of the above were explicitly authorized under Article I, Section 8. NONE of them.

    The Tenth Amendment "
    The powers not delegated to the United States by theConstitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved tothe States respectively, or to the people."

    This makes it perfectly clear that if the Constitution did not specifically authorize CONGRESS to have power, Congress does not have that power and the states have sole jurisdiction.

    Over Education, Art, retirements, health care for non-veteran civilians, public radio and TV and the welfare of the people living within state borders.

    If you can find any later Amendments authorizing any such thing, let us know.

    Otherwise, yes, our government has gone rogue and it's a criminal enterprise.

    MAYBE you should take some time, oh, ten years or so, and learn the Constitution?
    Freedom Requires Obstinance.

    We the People DID NOT vote in a majority Rodent Congress, they stole it via election fraud.

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    Subject: what's driving up the national debt

    That is why there must be a "House of Diamonds"...made by the common people who inspire authors,,,that the common people would be better served by King Arthur,,,



    Hinged to nothing, the nations are...void, barren, to few seem happy, so, what's the point of continuing into the 21st century, lying?



    That one could study the Egyptian dynasties and see the resemblances there of things now presently happening! The surrender of a nation to the moneychangers happened not overnight, but by tricks and devious wares it happened. Then was Ramesses II, he who they had accused of being accursed! 'Liars', he said, 'Leave my Egypt, you are that cursed!'

    Line, by line, chapter by verse, where it is 'necessary' for the world system to survive on another lies, it must charge its adversary of being good.

    Then before he arose, there was Moses: Ahmose I, Amenophis I (Amenhotep I), Kamose, who drove out the Hyksos money changers, where who converted to what system of governing, still finding fault with it, because every 7 years debt is not cancelled. That is in the Bible, but by separation of church and state, the American nation cannot be Christianized.

    War is the governing structure that helped I.S.I.S. make land. Mr. Obama and the Muslim brotherhood, but that is a "right", for it was accommodated.

    The Garden Valley. Even the King's Valley, Genesis 14, where Abram had seen the face of God, just not all of Him at once, but separate from His whole notion. The Egyptian Valley of the Dead, that the sun shone down upon God's Valley of the Kings. There is no other God above Him. None to be found. All of that papyrus used to write down the word of God...

    Then there is the 'book' of lies the other 'Moses' helped sew together until bound with leather to be tethered. So, Isaiah 1 goes unfathomed, that a lack of acknowledgement of the Animal Kingdom as being part and parcel to the success of any nation, that they are citizens living under the same Bill of Rights delivered by the stars because Amen had hoped.

    The nations a nation does business with do reflect upon what will be that nation's latitude. Horizontal-wise, the present Administration has some things figured correctly, but if animal rights' policies are dismal, deeded. Revelation chapter 14, the horse's bridle, and the Bureau of Land Management, and those barons who parted Horus' blood...
    Plant farms and animal sanctuaries with just compensation: Genesis 1:29-30, 2-3, Lev. 24:18-22, Psalm 50, Isaiah 1, 11:6-9, 65, 66, Daniel 1, Hosea 2:18, Revelation 20-22.

    Creation of horses: Zechariah 6:1-8, 14:20. Wild Horses, burros persecuted, parted out in violation of Public Law 92-195:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post


    That's alright. For a last name found on the Nile River, as well as a Greek island, a newspaper even, two as in fact, two names, two newspapers, and that's the journalists...


    http://www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/...nscription.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterVeritis View Post
    Social security is a tax and a Ponzi Scheme. It is unconstitutional.
    No, it isn't. We've been through this before so instead of an argument look up the thread...or don't.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    It is a Ponzi scheme, true. Tax, don't think so, though you are forced to pay it, when you should be able to opt out.
    Sure it's a tax.
    Liberals are a clear and present danger to our nation
    Pick your enemies carefully.






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    Social security is a tax and a Ponzi Scheme. It is unconstitutional.
    Quote Originally Posted by Captdon View Post
    No, it isn't. We've been through this before so instead of an argument look up the thread...or don't.
    This is a blind spot for you.

    Show me the Article I authority for the government to take money from you under the pretense they are saving it for you.
    Call your state legislators and insist they approve the Article V convention of States to propose amendments.


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