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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Soxes View Post
    They want to deny southern males the right to serve there country?MAGA

    I have not experienced that- can you tell me why you think southern males are denied entry into the infantry? (Forget about the other MOSes- they are just support for the infantry).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Have you read anything that I have posted on this topic?
    But you are acting like the Milatary has a merit system that is fair to all which is not true,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    I have not experienced that- can you tell me why you think southern males are denied entry into the infantry? (Forget about the other MOSes- they are just support for the infantry).
    The Infantry is the only spot they are offered if not out right rejected for service n any capacity,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Soxes View Post
    But you are acting like the Milatary has a merit system that is fair to all which is not true,
    Ideally it is, especially at the company level. What was your experience with evaluation reports, advancement, and opportunities for leadership positions in infantry units?
    I was the youngest sergeant in the US Army in 1991. Why. Because I wanted the job and had the experience and desire to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    Ideally it is, especially at the company level. What was your experience with evaluation reports, advancement, and opportunities for leadership positions in infantry units?
    I was the youngest sergeant in the US Army in 1991. Why. Because I wanted the job and had the experience and desire to do it.
    You got lucky and made points at somebody elses expense unless an o5 or above promted you on merit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Soxes View Post
    The Infantry is the only spot they are offered if not out right rejected for service n any capacity,
    They do take some of the lower ASVAB scorers into the Infantry. But in reality to be a leader in the infantry you have to be very smart, very calm under pressure, and have the ability to lead.

    I had an ASVAB of 120 (at 1986 standards)- I could have gotten any MOS that I wanted. I chose airborne infantry. I retired as a lieutenant colonel and my most fulfilling times in the military were as a corporal and sergeant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Soxes View Post
    You got lucky and made points at somebody elses expense unless an o5 or above promted you on merit.
    Do you know how the point system worked in the late 1980s? The cut off score was extremely high for infantry prior to Desert Storm. I had very high scores, but being in an airborne unit put me over the top. So far as I know, nobody over my company commander had a say in my promotion. But anyway, the army made a wise choice when they made me their youngest commissioned officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    The Marines have been pretty hard on not changing standards. I don't have any info to say that they did in these instances.

    I heard they broke to the pressure.



    Faced with towering attrition rates, the Marine Corps has steadily modified its grueling Infantry Officer Course ― changes that top Marines say are not attempts to water down standards, but to more accurately replicate today’s real-world requirements.

    Recent changes include the number of evaluated hikes required to pass the course, and the removal of the physically demanding Combat Endurance Test as a strict requirement to graduate.




    Under the new requirements, only three of those nine hikes will be evaluated, and Marines will have to pass all three evaluated hikes in order to graduate.




    The condition that Marines at IOC participate in nine hikes remains unchanged.




    Under the previous rules six of those hikes were evaluated, and Marines had to pass five of those six evaluated hikes.


    The Corps has come under criticism regarding the notoriously grueling 13-week infantry course that so far has only seen one woman successfully graduate.


    But most washouts from the IOC are men — only 35 women have attempted the course, and only five of those have attended the IOC after the job field was opened to women.


    The recent changes, the Corps argues, have nothing to do with gender integration in the combat arms job fields or a watering down of any standards.


    “Technically what we have done is we have modified graduation requirements, but we actually tie our requirements now more to the T&R [Marine infantry training and readiness manual] standards.” ….snip~


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    "Hikes"... For some reason I just think that is hilarious.

    In all my time in the Army, I never went on a "hike". I went on road marches and foot movements, but the very idea of a hike just conjures up something totally different in my mind.

    Jarheads go on "hikes".

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    As a retired officer this causes me much concern.
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