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Thread: Missouri Voters Overturn Right-To-Work

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    Quote Originally Posted by nathanbforrest45 View Post
    So, Jet57, you are in favor of slavery and forcing people to belong to unions in order to work?
    Were you born that stupid or did you go to school for that?

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    Nice to see referendums at work. That said, people tend to support them based on the particular issue. The flip side is the argument that we aren’t a democracy and the people should have their reps vote on these issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gamewell45 View Post
    I doubt it; there will be no mass exodus out of Missouri by businesses. As it is, under federal law you cannot be compelled to join a union as a condition of employment; just in agency fee payer states, you may be required to pay a fee equal to what the dues/fees would be. A majority of companies could care less whether or not their employees paid dues or not since it has no impact on their business directly.

    Finally, the decision handed down by SCOTUS impacts public sector unions alone and not private sector unions.
    Those public sector unions and right to work states have options Union shops however, everyone that I ever worked for or was around that had specific trade employment required memberbship and dues payments by contract. Office people and others at the were either in other unions or were non union.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sergeant Gleed View Post
    I'm going to guess, correctly, that the goonions did their usual stealth game when it came to sneaking the proposition in through the back door. Tuesday's election was not on anyone's radar and you'll discover, as is always the case, that gee! Golly! most of the voting precincts were in schools and the teachers goonions voted heavily and the opposition to the proposition, if any, wasn't well funded because it was rushed onto the ballot at the last possible moment.

    Goonions. No, the trend hasn't changed. Goonions among the WORKING class are fading out.

    Goonions among government parasite workers are going strong.

    Claire McKaskill is still going to be thrown out of office. And the will be after she votes to confirm Supreme Court Justice Kavanaugh.
    You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMPress Polly View Post
    I'm not sure American conservatives understand just how rapidly and dramatically pro-labor public attitudes have shifted in recent years since the last recession. Consider the Occupy movement, the Fight for 15 movement, the strikingly prominent Bernie Sanders presidential campaign of 2016, the wave of wildcat teacher strikes earlier this year (which mostly took place in politically conservatives states that voted for Trump, incidentally). In that context, is it really surprising that the voters of Missouri voted 2 to 1 to overturn a major restriction on unions? The Supreme Court can rule what they want, but the more they rule against labor in this social environment, the more they will only prove their institution undemocratic in nature and themselves to be what they are: corrupt cronies of the rather unpopular corporate world who deserve to be replaced and to have their institution democratized (i.e. rendered elected, not appointed) and to have their "right" of judicial review abolished until such time.
    Very well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    You haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about.
    Anyone who cannot spell "Union" correctly can't be taken seriously.
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    Political parties are all a part of the same hypocrisy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Were you born that stupid or did you go to school for that?

    Question for the forum, should I report this arrogant little twerp or should I simply put him on ignore? He never has anything to say anyway.

    What the hell, I think I will cover all my bases and do both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Were you born that stupid or did you go to school for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter1469 View Post
    If that is what the people of Missouri want that is on them. But considering that SCOTUS has ruled that people who don't want to join a union can't be forced to pay union dues, this ruling may not last long.

    In the meantime companies will be relocating out of Missouri.
    That decision only applies to public unions I believe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Were you born that stupid or did you go to school for that?
    You certainly believe in forced labor for no return of value.
    What did socialists use before candles?

    Electricity!

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