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Mister D
01-15-2013, 04:24 PM
The Battle of Tours-Poitiers has long occupied a prominent position in Western historiography. The eighth- or ninth-century Carolingian Continuator of Fredegar wrote that Charles Martel won his famous victory over the Muslim invaders of the Frankish Kingdom Christo auxiliante.1Eight centuries later, other clerical authors, the Bollandists, emphasized the miraculous nature of Charles' victory in their writings.2 Beginning in the eighteenth century, however, non-clerical authors began to exaggerate the significance of the battle.


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Conclusion: The Macrohistorical Significance of the Battle
After examining the motives for the Muslim drive north of the Pyrenees, one can attach a macrohistorical significance to the encounter between the Franks and Andalusi Muslims at Tours-Poitiers, especially when one considers the attention paid to the Franks in Arabic literature and the successful expansion of Muslims elsewhere in the medieval period. Lured on by the promise of plunder and by a desire to catch Eudo, as well as a desire to defeat more foes of Islam, 'Abd ar-Rahman extended his campaign towards the regnum Francorum. His invasion was neither simply a raid nor part of a grand scheme to conquer all Christendom, it was a failed attempt to elimi–nate a strategic threat located north of the Andalusi border. Moreover, the battle did not decide the outcome of the Christian-Muslim struggle in Francia. Rather, it brought a determined new participant into the field of combat, the Frankish army, which launched an offensive against the remaining Muslin bases to the south only a few years after Charles won his victory at Tours-Poitiers and earned himself the title Martel ("Hammer").57

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Peter1469
01-15-2013, 05:50 PM
Charles, the Hammer. He saved Western civilization from the first major Muslim invasion. He is one of our greatest heroes. The History Channel had a good piece on him.

Mister D
01-15-2013, 06:45 PM
Charles, the Hammer. He saved Western civilization from the first major Muslim invasion. He is one of our greatest heroes. The History Channel had a good piece on him.

Oh yeah? I haven't seen it.

I tend to agree with the author that the battle's significance can be overstated, however, had the Franks been defeated it's highly likely that western and central Europe would have remained relatively weak and fragmented thus inviting future Muslim incursions.

Peter1469
01-15-2013, 08:01 PM
It was the way that the Hammer united people to fight that makes him amazing.

RollingWave
01-15-2013, 09:11 PM
Yes, the battle was unlikely to have resulted in an actual Islamic conquest per-say, but without it the Carloginian empire was almost certainly not gonna happen.

Of course, it is debatable on how much that really mattered in the longer run, the Muslims still conquered Sicily and parts of Southern Italy well after this.

Peter1469
01-15-2013, 09:34 PM
Yes, the battle was unlikely to have resulted in an actual Islamic conquest per-say, but without it the Carloginian empire was almost certainly not gonna happen.

Of course, it is debatable on how much that really mattered in the longer run, the Muslims still conquered Sicily and parts of Southern Italy well after this.

It put the Muslims on notice, that Europe would resit. And in 1492 they were ejected for good.

Mister D
01-15-2013, 09:45 PM
You guys would like this site:

http://deremilitari.org/