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Carygrant
01-21-2013, 08:08 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/lead-and-crime-assessing-evidence


The link between exposure to lead poisoning and lowered IQ has been long known .
Now research points its finger at the links between lowered IQ to violence resulting from lead poisoning .
Like many great insights , the start is experience evidential and hypothetical . It has been clear to outsiders for some time that Americans had become addicted to violence at a level not approached by other developed nations . And in the same spirit , the same feeling is ever present about the falling American IQ level and the predisposition toward verbal and written aggression .
Now it seems a proven matter and people should begin to seriously doubt the abilities of Americans to make good and balanced judgements.
Wil Americans accept the need to stand down from powerful positions to safeguard the rest of mankind? Or do the more fortunately balanced need to find ways to withhold positions of real power from Americans ?


Obviously there are more than one or two here who are clear examples of the OP .
So we don't need posts underlining what we know already .
What steps do we need to prepare Americans for when hearing the shocking truth and what counselling and therapies will be required ?
These are troubled times and the last thing this planet needs is a nation that confuses might with right .

Chris
01-21-2013, 08:17 AM
The link between exposure to lead poisoning and lowered IQ has been long known .

Could you provide links for this as the link you do provide does not discuss this.


A quick search shows England has the same problem.

Carygrant
01-21-2013, 08:21 AM
Could you provide links for this as the link you do provide does not discuss this.


A quick search shows England has the same problem.


A quick piece of thinking ( !! ) would tell you that it is true everywhere that lead poisoning is significantly ahead of defined normal background level .

hanger4
01-21-2013, 08:27 AM
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/lead-and-crime-assessing-evidence


The link between exposure to lead poisoning and lowered IQ has been long known .

I guess this comes from all that "extensive research" you do but just can't seem to find the time to show/link for us.


http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/01/lead-and-crime-assessing-evidence
Now it seems a proven matter and people should begin to seriously doubt the abilities of Americans to make good and balanced judgements.

Hardly Cary, from your OP link;


My goal wasn't to pretend that a magazine article can make an airtight scientific case for the association of lead and crime. My goal was to lay out the evidence and get the scientific community to take it seriously enough to take the next step.

Not proven at all.

Chris
01-21-2013, 08:29 AM
A quick piece of thinking ( !! ) would tell you that it is true everywhere that lead poisoning is significantly ahead of defined normal background level .

If it's true why did you speak only of America?

And let's not forget some links to support your claim about IQ.

Carygrant
01-21-2013, 08:38 AM
Could you provide links for this as the link you do provide does not discuss this..

Lead poisoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead_poisoning)
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Doctors Urged to View Low IQ as Sign of Lead Poisoning (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,307536,00.html)Recent Developments in Low-Level Lead Exposure and ... (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1247191/)


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There are few hundred more . I thought you were up to using Wiki

Carygrant
01-21-2013, 08:40 AM
If it's true why did you speak only of America?

And let's not forget some links to support your claim about IQ.

Seek and ye shall find . That's what I hate about you lot --- no general Comprehension skills and an inability to initiate the simplest of checks .

Carygrant
01-21-2013, 08:41 AM
If it's true why did you speak only of America?


Because you are the planet problem

Chris
01-21-2013, 08:45 AM
Seek and ye shall find . That's what I hate about you lot --- no general Comprehension skills and an inability to initiate the simplest of checks .

Thank you!

Your hate is off topic tripe and ignored as usual.

hanger4
01-21-2013, 08:59 AM
Seek and ye shall find . That's what I hate about you lot --- no general Comprehension skills and an inability to initiate the simplest of checks .

Sorry Cary, you make the statements it's on you to support them when asked.

BTW thanks for the above links.

Tweren't that hard, now was it ??

Carygrant
01-21-2013, 09:14 AM
[QUOTE=hanger4;219723

Tweren't that hard, now was it ??[/QUOTE]


My very point to you but thanks for noting my good advice .
What we don't want to find is that Americans are denying their challenges and running away thinking that their handicaps can be swept under the rug .

hanger4
01-21-2013, 09:21 AM
My very point to you but thanks for noting my good advice .

I see you forgot the part where it's on you to substantiate your own statements.

BTW tweren't your advice, twas other peoples via your links.

Do you always take credit for others words or was this just an anomaly ??