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roadmaster
12-16-2018, 12:31 AM
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Thousands of teachers who may go on strike against the nation’s second-largest school district next month marched and rallied in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday.
The teachers and their supporters wore red shirts, banged drums and carried signs that read “Stand With LA Teachers!” as they took to the streets demanding a new contract.
The teachers union is threatening to strike for the first time in nearly 30 years as frustrations mount over more than 18 months of negotiations with Los Angeles Unified School District.

United Teachers Los Angeles leaders rejected the latest contract offer last month. There has been no agreement despite three state mediation sessions, and the standoff is now in a fact-finding stage — the final step of a negotiation process under state law.
The union contends that the district is hoarding a huge financial reserve that could be used to pay teachers more and improve conditions for students. Union leaders also criticized a plan to reorganize the district by dividing it into 32 networks.
Meanwhile, school workers are demanding smaller class sizes, more full-time nurses and librarians.

https://apnews.com/17611d6532394b3c9312f74aa372d20a?utm_source=Twitte r&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=APWestRegion


https://youtu.be/Jl_T9GpDIbg

Cletus
12-16-2018, 03:00 AM
If they don't like their working conditions, they should quit and get another job.

Peter1469
12-16-2018, 05:44 AM
Those shirts don't look red. Plum perhaps.

stjames1_53
12-16-2018, 05:50 AM
...........next thing you know, they'll trade those red shirts for yellow jackets...............jes' sayin'

Common
12-16-2018, 07:30 AM
Teachers in the big city states have been spoiled, for years starting in the 80s they were given hefty contracts because of the Its for the children mantra.

Some teachers are ridiculously over paid, some are not.

There are teachers making almost 90 thousand for 180 6 hr days. They have all summer off, they have every holiday off and not just one day, they get a week during those holidays while everyone else is busting their ass


Anyone that believes the We do hours and hourse of extra work is a FOOL. When you break it down those teachers are making more than many lawyers and other professionals.

Then theres florida where teachers make almost half of that pay.

Common
12-16-2018, 07:36 AM
Here ya go




Still Doing the Math, but for $100K a Year

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/01/fashion/01generationb.html


http://teachnyc.net/your-career/salary-and-benefits


This is from United Federation of Teachers

http://www.uft.org/our-rights/salary-schedules/teachers

stjames1_53
12-16-2018, 08:25 AM
Could it be that the heavy hand of CA taxation drives this as well?

gamewell45
12-16-2018, 09:28 AM
Teachers in the big city states have been spoiled, for years starting in the 80s they were given hefty contracts because of the Its for the children mantra.

Some teachers are ridiculously over paid, some are not.

There are teachers making almost 90 thousand for 180 6 hr days. They have all summer off, they have every holiday off and not just one day, they get a week during those holidays while everyone else is busting their ass


Anyone that believes the We do hours and hourse of extra work is a FOOL. When you break it down those teachers are making more than many lawyers and other professionals.

Then theres florida where teachers make almost half of that pay.
First off, you couldn't pay me enough to teach those little &$##@%**'s in inner city schools :nono: ; secondly the cost of living in the major cities is well above what it costs to live in most suburbs and rural areas of the country; third, most teachers who have the summer off are not paid by the school districts (unless they agree to receive smaller paychecks during the school year to stretch out payments to year round).

Fourth, while I've never been a teacher, my sister was a teacher for years and worked more then 40 hours per week staying for meetings, working with the students on plays, grading papers at night, sometimes visiting homes of children who weren't doing well in school to discuss it with their parents, etc. She said she wished she was paid by the hour; she'd have made a fortune as opposed to being salaried. Plus in my state all teachers need to have a Masters degree and state certification in order to teach in the public sector, a rather expensive investment to say the least; just like doctors and lawyers, they have to pay off their college loans too.

Fifth, the teachers have what they have due to the collective bargaining process; no one forced the school districts to agree to these contracts, they willingly signed them on their own. Most school district Chancellors (and some administrators too) have PSA's (personal service agreements) which are labor contracts and most of them are 3 to 4 times what a teacher makes. If they need a labor contract, then when don't the teachers need one?

Finally, if teachers are making more money then lawyers and other professionals, what does that tell you? If they were smart, where applicable, they ought to consider organizing and bargain for there terms and conditions of employment like some of us do in the private sector.