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donttread
05-19-2019, 08:12 AM
We were in a golf torney yesterday and it started out in the 40's with everyone in pull overs and sweat shirts and only 2 or 3 of us in shorts. It only hit around 60 in the afternoon but many of us got sun burned anyway. My face got sunburned at 60 degrees WITH a ball cap on all day! Same with many of us.
Why? Because we have been so sun deprived all it took was a moderately decent day and a few hours of sun!

Peter1469
05-19-2019, 08:16 AM
We were in a golf torney yesterday and it started out in the 40's with everyone in pull overs and sweat shirts and only 2 or 3 of us in shorts. It only hit around 60 in the afternoon but many of us got sun burned anyway. My face got sunburned at 60 degrees WITH a ball cap on all day! Same with many of us.
Why? Because we have been so sun deprived all it took was a moderately decent day and a few hours of sun!
I can see that.

I have gotten sunburn (and snow blindness) skiing.

donttread
05-19-2019, 08:19 AM
I can see that.

I have gotten sunburn (and snow blindness) skiing.


I always attributed that to wind burn, but one if the guys we golfed with said the same thing. Snow are water are very reflective. Grass is not, but apparently yesterday it didn't need to be.

Peter1469
05-19-2019, 08:22 AM
I always attributed that to wind burn, but one if the guys we golfed with said the same thing. Snow are water are very reflective. Grass is not, but apparently yesterday it didn't need to be.

Was it your first long sun exposure of the season?

Just AnotherPerson
05-19-2019, 08:32 AM
We were in a golf torney yesterday and it started out in the 40's with everyone in pull overs and sweat shirts and only 2 or 3 of us in shorts. It only hit around 60 in the afternoon but many of us got sun burned anyway. My face got sunburned at 60 degrees WITH a ball cap on all day! Same with many of us.
Why? Because we have been so sun deprived all it took was a moderately decent day and a few hours of sun!
Check out these links https://www.theawesomemuse.com/how-ozone-depletion-affects-skin-eyes/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

Excerpt from link #2:

Increased UV


Ozone, while a minority constituent in Earth's atmosphere, is responsible for most of the absorption of UVB radiation. The amount of UVB radiation that penetrates through the ozone layer decreases exponentially (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exponential_decay) with the slant-path thickness and density of the layer. When stratospheric ozone levels decrease, higher levels of UVB reach the Earth’s surface.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion#cite_note-WMO-20Q-1)[45] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion#cite_note-45) UV-driven phenolic formation in tree rings has dated the start of ozone depletion in northern latitudes to the late 1700s.[46] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion#cite_note-46)In October 2008, the Ecuadorian Space Agency (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecuadorian_Space_Agency) published a report called HIPERION. The study used ground instruments in Ecuador and the last 28 years' data from 12 satellites of several countries, and found that the UV radiation reaching equatorial latitudes was far greater than expected, with the UV Index (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UV_Index) climbing as high as 24 in Quito (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quito); the WHO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHO) considers 11 as an extreme index and a great risk to health. The report concluded that depleted ozone levels around the mid-latitudes of the planet are already endangering large populations in these areas.[47] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion#cite_note-47) Later, the CONIDA, the Peruvian Space Agency, published its own study, which yielded almost the same findings as the Ecuadorian study.



Biological effects


The main public concern regarding the ozone hole has been the effects of increased surface UV radiation on human health. So far, ozone depletion in most locations has been typically a few percent and, as noted above, no direct evidence of health damage is available in most latitudes. If the high levels of depletion seen in the ozone hole were to be common across the globe, the effects could be substantially more dramatic. As the ozone hole over Antarctica has in some instances grown so large as to affect parts of Australia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia), New Zealand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand), Chile (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile), Argentina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentina), and South Africa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Africa), environmentalists have been concerned that the increase in surface UV could be significant.[48] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion#cite_note-48)Ozone depletion would magnify all of the effects of UV on human health (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_sun_exposure), both positive (including production of vitamin D) and negative (including sunburn, skin cancer, and cataracts). In addition, increased surface UV leads to increased tropospheric ozone, which is a health risk to humans.


And then there was this event.....https://rense.com/general94/howfu.htm

donttread
05-19-2019, 09:40 AM
Was it your first long sun exposure of the season?

Yes, but not by choice. It's been a terrible spring. I'm almost 60 and I don't recall a spring that was consistently this cold AND rainy. We went to Florida in march but slathered the sun screen . In an unrelated matter I was a at a retirement ceremony at Fort Drum the other day. It was a very well run event. It was cold and rainy that day too though. There I tied it in the the thread. LOL

Peter1469
05-19-2019, 09:59 AM
Yes, but not by choice. It's been a terrible spring. I'm almost 60 and I don't recall a spring that was consistently this cold AND rainy. We went to Florida in march but slathered the sun screen . In an unrelated matter I was a at a retirement ceremony at Fort Drum the other day. It was a very well run event. It was cold and rainy that day too though. There I tied it in the the thread. LOL
It has been since 2000 since I have been to Ft. Drum.

donttread
05-20-2019, 08:27 AM
It has been since 2000 since I have been to Ft. Drum.

My son-in -law retired this spring. I think Fort Drum is pretty well run. Anytime I ever meet a soldier they are very respectful. But maybe it's because I'm an old fart who won't be chasing the same women they will be. I think I remember being disrespected back when I could. How long have you been retired?

Peter1469
05-20-2019, 04:15 PM
My son-in -law retired this spring. I think Fort Drum is pretty well run. Anytime I ever meet a soldier they are very respectful. But maybe it's because I'm an old fart who won't be chasing the same women they will be. I think I remember being disrespected back when I could. How long have you been retired?

3 years this September.

donttread
05-21-2019, 05:55 AM
3 years this September.

So you must of been up at Drum early in your career.

Peter1469
05-21-2019, 04:20 PM
So you must of been up at Drum early in your career.
It was my first duty station as an officer. 1999-2000.

Captain Obvious
05-25-2019, 02:20 PM
I did a bit of ice fishing this past season and there was a fundraising tournament on the lake that I volunteered for because I belong to a local civic club.

So my job was to work a bar and a grill with a couple other people, started around 11. By 3, maybe I was a little drunk too, but I'd peeled my clothes off to just a t-shirt and got a burn on my face and arms.

Getting sunburn on a frozen lake is kind of an amazing feeling.