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testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 08:31 PM
I wonder what Joe Biden promised little Mike.


https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-13/michael-bloomberg-to-spend-100-million-in-florida-to-help-biden

MisterVeritis
11-03-2020, 08:33 PM
I think Florida will choose President Trump.

MMC
11-03-2020, 08:38 PM
Florida Called For President Trump.....

President Trump secured a victory in the must-win, battleground state of Florida, which has 29 electoral votes.


Race Called At 11-03 08:11 EST


Republicans were confident about winning the state early in the day as the Democratic advantage from early voting quickly disappeared. Republican voter turnout was higher than normal, such as in Pike, Luzerne, and Pinellas counties. The Biden campaign seemed to acknowledge as much after campaign manager Jen O’Malley Dillon argued they can get to 270 without Florida and Pennsylvania. (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortneyobrien/2020/11/03/biden-campaign-manager-doesnt-sound-hopeful-about-a-couple-of-battlegrounds-n2579335)
As Matt reported earlier, the former vice president was getting “massacred (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/11/03/in-florida-democrats-are-getting-massacred-in-these-three-key-democratic-counties-n2579370)” in the three key Democratic counties of Palm Beach, Broward, and Miami-Dade counties, a telling sign......snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/11/03/florida-n2579381


Thanks for wasting that 100 million Bloomberg. Hope you lose the other 1 billion you put out across the country.

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 08:38 PM
I know, but holy Jesus...$100 million from one guy.

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 09:41 PM
President Trump is the projected winner of Wash DC at 93.6%.

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/washington/washington-dc/two-biden-campaign-staffers-test-positive-for-covid-19/

MisterVeritis
11-03-2020, 09:43 PM
President Trump is the projected winner of Wash DC at 93.6%.

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/washington/washington-dc/two-biden-campaign-staffers-test-positive-for-covid-19/
liar.

Calypso Jones
11-03-2020, 09:43 PM
Answered Prayer. Mike loses millions in his quest to honor himself. And it's gone. Now let it be to the Glory of God.

MMC
11-03-2020, 09:47 PM
I know, but holy Jesus...$100 million from one guy.

His money paid off for the Demos in picking up the extra 5 house seats.

MMC
11-03-2020, 10:00 PM
Huh? DC? This has to be a misprint.

carolina73
11-03-2020, 10:07 PM
It must be. They called it for Biden earlier.

carolina73
11-03-2020, 10:15 PM
Florida is going Trump. Bloomberg appears to be a jinx not any help.

The Booman
11-03-2020, 10:22 PM
How's that panning out?

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 10:27 PM
Jus hav'n some fun...DC for Statehood, right?

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 10:30 PM
MMC, and your point is...? Assuming the Supreme's won't rule in time, then when does the new Congress get sworn in. I think that's where you are going with that.



His money paid off for the Demos in picking up the extra 5 house seats.

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 11:01 PM
Those mail-in ballots went out a month or more ago, so where are they on Nov 3? Have Biden supporters been waiting for Joe to mail them a stamp?


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/523639-florida-men-charged-with-stealing-mail-in-ballots-from-post-office

RMNIXON
11-03-2020, 11:16 PM
Juan is an idiot!

Even slow people mail well before a due dates so the vast majority of mail ballots are counted already. They are the early numbers like the drop boxes.

And in an honest election any not collected post dated today should be thrown out!

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 11:22 PM
Joe Biden said earlier tonight that Trump will not steal the election. Now why did Trickum Joe feel the need to say that as Trump has been fighting the good fight against fraud.

Simple, Trickum Joe and the Dems plans to steal the election by stuffing ballot boxes after the election is over. If you mailed your ballot in Philly today, it'll be postmarked and delivery to a Philly address tomorrow. Dah....

ripmeister
11-03-2020, 11:24 PM
Juan is an idiot!

Even slow people mail well before a due dates so the vast majority of mail ballots are counted already. They are the early numbers like the drop boxes.

And in an honest election any not collected post dated today should be thrown out!

I don’t think the mail in ballots are counted in advance.

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 11:29 PM
ripster, then why no requirement for a post office postmark on the envelope? How do Pennsylvanians send in ballots to the counters, by lying ass pony soldiers?




I don’t think the mail in ballots are counted in advance.

ripmeister
11-03-2020, 11:33 PM
ripster, then why no requirement for a post office postmark on the envelope? How do Pennsylvanians send in ballots to the counters, by lying ass pony soldiers?

I wasn’t addressing that issue. Apparently Penn has over a million mail in ballots to count. Their SOS prewarned that it could take several days to get all those ballots counted.

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 11:43 PM
My guess is Penn is busy trying to figure out just how many ballots they still need to stuff.




I wasn’t addressing that issue. Apparently Penn has over a million mail in ballots to count. Their SOS prewarned that it could take several days to get all those ballots counted.

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 11:51 PM
goof balls.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-wins-california-oregon-and-washington-nbc-news-projects/vi-BB1aFHhv?fbclid=IwAR3aaZue1XE58oYmNIBWCDlQYPTGoi2b hRPxblSN3sJB7CXql72qwd_43JI

Peter1469
11-03-2020, 11:55 PM
They are infested by progs.

Tahuyaman
11-03-2020, 11:55 PM
The Portland and Seattle areas are overwhelmingly left wing. That’s enough to keep them blue. They would vote for Stalin.

testsubjectalpha
11-03-2020, 11:56 PM
Antifa/BLM States. I guess those goof balls like dat shiate.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 12:04 AM
President Trump is the projected winner of Wash DC at 93.6%.

https://www.rochesterfirst.com/washington/washington-dc/two-biden-campaign-staffers-test-positive-for-covid-19/
In other news, Iran and China have been called for Biden.

Omar
11-04-2020, 12:06 AM
They are infested by progs.
If they weren't, they wouldn't have been so tolerant of the violent revolutionaries.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:06 AM
that's a big 10-4 buddy. Bejing Billions to Biden. Biden billions to Iran. Lot's of sucking dick going on with the Bidens.








In other news, Iran and China have been called for Biden.

BaghdadBob
11-04-2020, 12:17 AM
The Portland and Seattle areas are overwhelmingly left wing. That’s enough to keep them blue. They would vote for Stalin.

LOL! There's a statue of Vladimir Lenin in Seattle.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:20 AM
Brit Hume on Fox just brought up the point some state election officials believe they have the right to alter ballots. Wow.

Meanwhile Trump is up in Pennsylvania by 16pts with 56% of the vote counted. That's fairly huge given the big cities are the earliest to report.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:23 AM
Baghdadi, are you Achmed the dead terrorist?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBvfiCdk-jc

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:28 AM
What possibly does he have to say will returns are still coming in? And the dumb ass media has been tell us all the president would be the one to prematurely declare victory.

Trickum Joe. probably because he's lookin at PA, getting his butt kicked.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:31 AM
dang, with 60% counted in Michigan, Biden is down by 10pts.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 12:32 AM
LOL! There's a statue of Vladimir Lenin in Seattle.
That is a fact. It’s in the Freemont District.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:40 AM
Biden pundit says Michigan mail-in vote that came in earlier in the month still needs to be counted. Isn't that interesting with Biden down 10pts on election night.




dang, with 60% counted in Michigan, Biden is down by 10pts.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:44 AM
With 80% of the vote in. Let's see, down by 10 in PA, down by 10 in MI, down by 4 in WI with 80% of the vote in.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 12:46 AM
I listened to Biden’s little speech. What was the point of that?

Jen
11-04-2020, 12:47 AM
goof balls.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-wins-california-oregon-and-washington-nbc-news-projects/vi-BB1aFHhv?fbclid=IwAR3aaZue1XE58oYmNIBWCDlQYPTGoi2b hRPxblSN3sJB7CXql72qwd_43JI
What did you expect. Some real idiots live in those states.

RMNIXON
11-04-2020, 12:52 AM
I listened to Biden’s little speech. What was the point of that?

I had more respect for Hillary who stayed silent all night in 2016. He cannot possibly declare any Victory and will Nap as usual.......



Is Joe Biden even fully aware of what is going on I wonder seriously?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:55 AM
President is kicking Biden's butt in PA, MI, and WI...by a lot. Joe must think he's got people in place to make it happen for him. Right now, Joe is looking like a loser.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 12:58 AM
I thought the people there would be sick and tired of it. My bad. They support it, they own it.







What did you expect. Some real idiots live in those states.

Jen
11-04-2020, 01:04 AM
I thought the people there would be sick and tired of it. My bad. They support it, they own it.Absolutely. They are dumb enough to burn down their own yard then pretend someone else did it. Same goes for Minnesota. Call it what it is: Stupid.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 01:04 AM
President is kicking Biden's butt in PA, MI, and WI...by a lot. Joe must think he's got people in place to make it happen for him. Right now, Joe is looking like a loser.
Lol. Biden is going win.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 01:09 AM
With 80% of the vote in. Let's see, down by 10 in PA, down by 10 in MI, down by 4 in WI with 80% of the vote in.
Biden will win Wisconsin and Michigan and probably Pennsylvania (although he’s going to have 270 Electoral votes even without Pennsylvania).

RMNIXON
11-04-2020, 01:09 AM
Lol. Biden is going win.

On what Planet and who feeds the feeb his num num?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVu3WRfcOFA

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 01:09 AM
On what Planet and who feeds the feeb his num num?


Earth.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 01:12 AM
President is kicking Biden's butt in PA, MI, and WI...by a lot. Joe must think he's got people in place to make it happen for him. Right now, Joe is looking like a loser.
Trump is unlikely to win all three. I think this election can go either way.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:13 AM
stupid is as stupid does. This has been a fun night.




Absolutely. They are dumb enough to burn down their own yard then pretend someone else did it. Same goes for Minnesota. Call it what it is: Stupid.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:15 AM
Tally, I'm sorry you feel that way, but the President is kicking Joe's butt in Wi, MI, and PA tonight, big time.




Trump is unlikely to win all three. I think this election can go either way.

RMNIXON
11-04-2020, 01:17 AM
Juan Williams is once again talking mailed votes uncounted as if that did not happen, and court battles......


We all knew this would happen! :geez:

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:21 AM
unsolicited mail-in ballots have been in the people's hands for over a month. Juan, what did you wait for until today...Joe Biden to send you a stamp?

Common Sense is something the Democrat Party hopes you don't have.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 01:23 AM
Tally, I'm sorry you feel that way, but the President is kicking Joe's butt in Wi, MI, and PA tonight, big time.
I don’t “feel” anything. It’s too early to make any determination on PA.

I think Trump is likely to win Wisconsin and possibly Michigan.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:27 AM
PA, 64% of the vote in. Trump 56.6% and Biden 42.2%.




I don’t “feel” anything. It’s too early to make any determination on PA.

I think Trump is likely to win Wisconsin and possibly Michigan.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 01:29 AM
PA, 64% of the vote in. Trump 56.6% and Biden 42.2%.

They have a substantial number of mail in ballots they haven’t even begun to count.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:30 AM
Texas, an hour behind Pennsylvania, 82% in. What the fuck is Pennsylvania's problem? I think we all know. Shenanigans going on.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 01:33 AM
Texas, an hour behind Pennsylvania, 82% in. What the fuck is Pennsylvania's problem? I think we all know. Shenanigans going on.
They have mail in ballots to count. Enough to change the outcome.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:41 AM
No Joe, you didn't win. Why did you hold a press conference to say you have won? President has not held a press conference.

It's you and your campaign who said it's not right to prematurely ejaculate, yet that's what you came out and did.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:43 AM
mail in ballots from who Tally?




They have mail in ballots to count. Enough to change the outcome.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:48 AM
Liberal progressive media told you it was a battleground State, up for grabs. Obviously not. What else are these lying butts telling you?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:51 AM
86% of the vote in, President up by 4 in Wisconsin.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:58 AM
With 88% of the vote in, President is up by 4% in Wisconsin.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:01 AM
At 2am, President is up by 9% in Michigan.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:02 AM
9pts. 54% to 45%

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:06 AM
With 64% in. at 2am in the morning Nov 4th.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:12 AM
with 66% in at 2am.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:18 AM
In New York, are you kidding me?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:22 AM
Given Hillary the debate questions before hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBvfiCdk-jc

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:29 AM
70% in, still 9% up for President. 2:30 am.




with 66% in at 2am.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:30 AM
9 pts.



70% in, still 9% up for President. 2:30 am.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:34 AM
Are you kidding me? In New York?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:39 AM
You don't get to decide what other people think. Think about that...so called news man.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:45 AM
A test of basic skills.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:51 AM
damn, Trump won DC 93% of to 6%, just damn. 3 electoral votes. DC has 3 electoral votes? huh?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:55 AM
So Andrew Cuomo can tell me his dead daddy is a God?

https://dailycaller.com/2020/10/06/fox-news-tucker-carlson-governor-andrew-cuomo-stupid-threat-close-religious-services-coronavirus-covid-19/

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 02:58 AM
damn. that's impressive.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 03:07 AM
Michigan. 73% in, President up 7 pts. 3am.





with 66% in at 2am.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 03:11 AM
Wisconsin, 3am ET on 11/4/20, Trump up by 4 pts with 93% of the vote in.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 03:22 AM
102% of registered voters in. Oops... dumb fucks...

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 03:59 AM
4am, Nov 4th. Trump is up 13 pts in Pennsylvania with 76% of the vote in.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:04 AM
unbelievable.....

Lummy
11-04-2020, 04:04 AM
PA atty general shapiro, part of the PA democrat cabal, was getting trounced big time last I looked. They're probably all getting beaten pretty bad.

It's partyism, pure and simple. :shocked:

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:11 AM
Democats now poo poo Jimmy Carter coming into a 3rd world country (the USA) to supervise a free and fair election.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:25 AM
40% !

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:31 AM
Pennsylvania. With 76% in. at 4:30 am in the morning Nov 4th, Trump 56%, Biden 43%.




With 64% in. at 2am in the morning Nov 4th.

PJL
11-04-2020, 04:34 AM
unbelievable.....So , they must all be "commies" , right ?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:36 AM
if you say so PJ.

jet57
11-04-2020, 04:39 AM
unbelievable.....

I've always said that California is a lot more conservative than people think.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:40 AM
4:30 a.m. Nov 4, Trump up by 5 in Michigan, 80% in.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 04:41 AM
Biden will win Wisconsin and Michigan and probably Pennsylvania (although he’s going to have 270 Electoral votes even without Pennsylvania).
Milwaukie, Wisconsin mail in ballots counted at 96% in. Trump still leads by 30,000 votes.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:47 AM
Trump up by 13 pts in Pennsylvania with 76% in. 4:45 am ET.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:54 AM
Trump up 5pts in Michigan with 81% in at 5am ET.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:59 AM
wow!

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:02 AM
With 77% in, Trump up by 12 pts. 5am ET.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:03 AM
Iowa is a very social conservative state. I expect Joe's penchant for pedophilia and Hunter's "rape" laptop hurt the Dems there.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:04 AM
With 77% in, Trump up by 12 pts. 5am ET.
The Pedo has 12.6% to make up with ballots w/o sig verification and no postmarks. Can he do it?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:05 AM
Iowa is likely full of girls who want to get nailed by a stud.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:06 AM
just putting down markers dogg.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:11 AM
Trump is up there.

I wonder if they will sue over too many voters?

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:12 AM
Biden up by .3 in Wisconsin. 99% in.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:13 AM
Biden up by .3 in Wisconsin. 99% in.
Real Clear still has Trump behind.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:14 AM
The guy is an idiot. Watch him for a laugh. Not for news.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:16 AM
Toss up.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:22 AM
I know.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:29 AM
Peter, I don't know. I think I would to make the point that it's not okay to cheat. Then what to do with the cheats. It is a felony.. 1 year or so, depending.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:32 AM
People there are social cons. So pedophilia and rape saved on laptops is a turn-off.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:33 AM
Trump broke him as a newsman. :smiley:

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:34 AM
Ask Donttread- Upstate trends conservative. NYC blows the rest of the state out of the water with their Progs.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:37 AM
The Morning Talk Show that I listen too is conservative. They said CNN had better election coverage than Fox.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:41 AM
Liberal progressive media told you it was a battleground State, up for grabs. Obviously not. What else are these lying butts telling you?
Several of us were warning about trusting the "media" and the "polls."

Richie was supporting both.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:48 AM
Trump is unlikely to win all three. I think this election can go either way.
Actually it is possible.

Also Arizona is not really (D) yet.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:50 AM
The EC map is looking a lot like 2016. Except Arizona, and that call was bad and may flip.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:52 AM
Better get some lawsuits going over this.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 05:55 AM
If they weren't, they wouldn't have been so tolerant of the violent revolutionaries.

Right. Antifa didn't go to the conservative parts of those states to riot and set up autonomous zones.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 07:11 AM
Actually it is possible.

Also Arizona is not really (D) yet.

Biden has won Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin. Pennsylvania and Georgia are too close to call, but Biden’s a slight favorite in each and he’s at 270 without them. It’s an incredible indictment of the American electorate that the worst president in modern American history came close to winning reelection, but Trump lost.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 07:22 AM
I've always said that California is a lot more conservative than people think.

There are a lot of Conservatives in CA. I don't think I ever use Conservative in any part of a description of CA.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 07:24 AM
Brit Hume on Fox just brought up the point some state election officials believe they have the right to alter ballots. Wow.

Meanwhile Trump is up in Pennsylvania by 16pts with 56% of the vote counted. That's fairly huge given the big cities are the earliest to report.
Big city mail votes are actually the last to report.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 07:25 AM
The EC map is looking a lot like 2016. Except Arizona, and that call was bad and may flip.
Wrong.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 07:27 AM
Gotta produce more ballots! How many do we need from Philly? Tell them we found more in the closet!

carolina73
11-04-2020, 07:30 AM
Generally it is the Military vote that is last to be counted. We know which way the Military vote will go.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 07:38 AM
PA, 64% of the vote in. Trump 56.6% and Biden 42.2%.

Philly area counties say they have a million mail in ballots not yet counted.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 07:51 AM
Two things make me turn change the channel. Chris Wallace and a Biden rally with those freaking horns. I would love to fire an RPG right into those cars honking as if it were applause.

TheLiquidGuy
11-04-2020, 07:52 AM
Philly area counties say they have a million mail in ballots not yet counted.

I dont think they have started counting mail votes. have they?

carolina73
11-04-2020, 07:57 AM
I dont think they have started counting mail votes. have they?

It depends on the county and staffing.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 08:01 AM
So did Chicago, Minneapolis, LA and NYC. They took their states with them.

They destroyed their own cities and then blamed Republicans.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 08:04 AM
And Harrison was going to beat Graham in my state. Graham won by 12 pts.

Harrison spent 104.1 million dollars on his campaign

jet57
11-04-2020, 08:13 AM
There are a lot of Conservatives in CA. I don't think I ever use Conservative in any part of a description of CA.

They are mostly down around Orange County: San Diego and south. They are in the Central Valley as well. But even in the Bay Area, Prop 8: gay marriage was defeated the first time, and I voted against Affirmative Action: Prop 16, this time. So don’t talk about snowflake California because it’s really not that way.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 08:24 AM
More of the "media" and "pollsters" getting it wrong.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 08:26 AM
So did Chicago, Minneapolis, LA and NYC. They took their states with them.

They destroyed their own cities and then blamed Republicans.
Correct Citizen carolina73!

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 08:27 AM
Biden has won Arizona, Michigan and Wisconsin. Pennsylvania and Georgia are too close to call, but Biden’s a slight favorite in each and he’s at 270 without them. It’s an incredible indictment of the American electorate that the worst president in modern American history came close to winning reelection, but Trump lost.

lol

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 08:28 AM
It depends on the county and staffing.
One of the counties stopped counting because they didn't like the results. Repub poll watchers are up their ass to ensure nothing illegal occurs.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 08:30 AM
Two things make me turn change the channel. Chris Wallace and a Biden rally with those freaking horns. I would love to fire an RPG right into those cars honking as if it were applause.

I use to watch Fox News Sunday every Sunday, and when Wallace got broken it was the kick for me to cut the cable.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 08:50 AM
I use to watch Fox News Sunday every Sunday, and when Wallace got broken it was the kick for me to cut the cable.

Oddly, I felt better watching MSNBC and CNN last night, while flipping back to OAN for counterpoint. When you know that there is a bias then it is not as hard to watch as FOX pretending they are not against Trump. Wallace smirking as he lies is intolerable.

TheLiquidGuy
11-04-2020, 08:55 AM
One of the counties stopped counting because they didn't like the results. Repub poll watchers are up their ass to ensure nothing illegal occurs.

one of the couties stopped because they didn't like the results?



Do you think that is how things work?



Wayne County (heavily democrat) in Michigan ought to bring Biden over the top some time today.

its 1.7 million people with about 60% reporting. there is about a 25k deficit for biden to overcome at the time of this post,

carolina73
11-04-2020, 08:59 AM
one of the couties stopped because they didn't like the results?



Do you think that is how things work?



Wayne County (heavily democrat) in Michigan ought to bring Biden over the top some time today.

its 1.7 million people with about 64% reporting. there is about a 25k deficit for biden to overcome at the time of this post,

Wayne county is heavy in blue collar workers. That and currently unemployed by choice because they make more sitting at home on unemployment with no requirement to look for a job.

MMC
11-04-2020, 09:03 AM
MMC, and your point is...? Assuming the Supreme's won't rule in time, then when does the new Congress get sworn in. I think that's where you are going with that.

The point was the Money Bloomberg put out to Nancy Pelosi and Demos Reps is what got them the 4 seats they picked up. Money won those races.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 10:43 AM
mail in ballots from who Tally?
From the voters of Pennsylvania. More than a million.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 10:44 AM
Actually it is possible.

Also Arizona is not really (D) yet.
There’s no chance for Trump in Arizona.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 10:45 AM
one of the couties stopped because they didn't like the results?



Do you think that is how things work?



Wayne County (heavily democrat) in Michigan ought to bring Biden over the top some time today.

its 1.7 million people with about 60% reporting. there is about a 25k deficit for biden to overcome at the time of this post,
They will have to count the votes (legal ones) they just gave up last night.

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 10:46 AM
There’s no chance for Trump in Arizona.
Right. Some "news" outlets don't have it called yet. RCP including.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 10:47 AM
The vote in Pennsylvania will determine the outcome.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 11:02 AM
The vote in Pennsylvania will determine the outcome.
Biden is going to win with or without Pennsylvania. He's now ahead in states with 270 electoral votes. Pennsylvania is just gravy.

MMC
11-04-2020, 11:47 AM
Biden is going to win with or without Pennsylvania. He's now ahead in states with 270 electoral votes. Pennsylvania is just gravy.

Nice try Ritchie.



Election updates: Biden campaign officials contend he's on track to take Electoral College, but battleground states still up for grabs.....
USA TODAY 7 mins ago


It's officially the day after Election Day and the country, and world, are waking up without knowing who the next president of the United States will be.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/election-updates-biden-campaign-officials-contend-he-s-on-track-to-take-electoral-college-but-battleground-states-still-up-for-grabs/ar-BB1aG9Ph?ocid=Peregrine

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:14 PM
Trump was up by 10pt in Michigan and Pennsylvania at 4am last night, up by 5 in WI. Now he's losing except for PA?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=election+results+2020+presidential+electi on&form=ANNTH1&refig=85d7d4abdb0d41b8a71dbdae240c97af&sp=3&qs=FT&pq=election+results&sk=PRES1FT2&sc=8-16&cvid=85d7d4abdb0d41b8a71dbdae240c97af

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 01:19 PM
It's called counting.

invictus
11-04-2020, 01:25 PM
Trump was up by 10pt in Michigan and Pennsylvania at 4am last night, up by 5 in WI. Now he's losing except for PA?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=election+results+2020+presidential+electi on&form=ANNTH1&refig=85d7d4abdb0d41b8a71dbdae240c97af&sp=3&qs=FT&pq=election+results&sk=PRES1FT2&sc=8-16&cvid=85d7d4abdb0d41b8a71dbdae240c97af


There was plenty of publication saying that on election night, Trump will lead but as the counting goes on the race will be close.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 01:28 PM
Democrats had their printing presses running in Philly. They shut down long enough to let the ink dry.

Lummy
11-04-2020, 01:31 PM
It's called counting.

It's called rigging, collusion and theft, and it is a crime.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 01:52 PM
sorry folks, you don't go from up 5-10pts with 80-90% in at 4am and wake up a few hours later to find yourself down by 1. Oh, and just in Wisonsin and Michigan. Something doesn't smell right.

Standing Wolf
11-04-2020, 01:58 PM
The Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and election officials in other states tried to get the rules changed to allow the early counting of ballots, but their efforts were blocked by Republicans. In a number of states - Ohio comes to mind - ballots cast early were counted days ago. Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the delay.

BTW, anyone care to wager on whether or not Trump will boycott a Biden inauguration?

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 01:58 PM
It's called rigging, collusion and theft, and it is a crime.
That is an unadulterated lie. There is zero evidence of fraud. None whatsoever. You guys really are pathetic.

invictus
11-04-2020, 02:07 PM
sorry folks, you don't go from up 5-10pts with 80-90% in at 4am and wake up a few hours later to find yourself down by 1. Oh, and just in Wisonsin and Michigan. Something doesn't smell right.


It's expected that Dems voted early 2-1 compared with Reps...

Calypso Jones
11-04-2020, 02:18 PM
Corrupt folk at the polls and those overseeing the polling stations. BLATANT corruption.

Calypso Jones
11-04-2020, 02:19 PM
sorry folks, you don't go from up 5-10pts with 80-90% in at 4am and wake up a few hours later to find yourself down by 1. Oh, and just in Wisonsin and Michigan. Something doesn't smell right.


no you don't. BLATANT cheating.

Standing Wolf
11-04-2020, 02:20 PM
It's expected that Dems voted early 2-1 compared with Reps...

Which is precisely why Trump and his disciples don't want those votes counted.

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:22 PM
Which is precisely why Trump and his disciples don't want those votes counted.

Did you practice law basing everything on the weakest of rumors too?

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:26 PM
The Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and election officials in other states tried to get the rules changed to allow the early counting of ballots, but their efforts were blocked by Republicans. In a number of states - Ohio comes to mind - ballots cast early were counted days ago. Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the delay.

BTW, anyone care to wager on whether or not Trump will boycott a Biden inauguration?


Frankly, you sound assured of success in democrats' theft of the entire election in the following couple days.
Some of these crooks are practically gloating already, "Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat ..."

Watch AG Shapiro, for example, in PA. It's disgusting.

Standing Wolf
11-04-2020, 02:28 PM
Did you practice law basing everything on the weakest of rumors too?

What rumor are you referring to? The stats about which Party's members voted early are solid and readily confirmed. Trump has been ranting about not wanting any more ballots counted for more than twelve hours now. Does someone need a picture drawn?

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:34 PM
What rumor are you referring to? The stats about which Party's members voted early are solid and readily confirmed. Trump has been ranting about not wanting any more ballots counted for more than twelve hours now. Does someone need a picture drawn?
How many rumors apply?

This, here linked, is total bullshit, and it won't go unchallenged: https://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/130310-MI-and-WI-suddenly-go-to-Biden?p=3047961#post3047961

RMNIXON
11-04-2020, 02:34 PM
What rumor are you referring to? The stats about which Party's members voted early are solid and readily confirmed. Trump has been ranting about not wanting any more ballots counted for more than twelve hours now. Does someone need a picture drawn?


If he is talking about any ballots that showed up without post marks after the polls closed then I am with the President on this one.

Standing Wolf
11-04-2020, 02:36 PM
Frankly, you sound assured of success in democrats' theft of the entire election in the following couple days.
Some of these crooks are practically gloating already, "Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat ..."

Watch AG Shapiro, for example, in PA. It's disgusting.

For my part, I'm just smiling as I think about all the posts by Trump-supporting members over the past couple of years that have assured us that their man would not contest the election results, not run to the courts for help, etc., because "that's what Democrats do". Anyone who has watched and listened to Trump over the course of the last four or five years knew very well that he would snap and go full overtired toddler on the system at the first hint that he would be the Loser.

https://blueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/story/thumbnail/60636/4570636d-81aa-45c8-830f-026d4bec79d8.jpg

invictus
11-04-2020, 02:37 PM
Did you practice law basing everything on the weakest of rumors too?


Trump himself pretty much said so. He doesn't want the continuation of vote counting in states like PA but AZ, where he's trailing but still has a chance... Sure, count that.

Standing Wolf
11-04-2020, 02:40 PM
If he is talking about any ballots that showed up without post marks after the polls closed then I am with the President on this one.

He isn't. He's wanting the millions of ballots received before Election Day to be NOT counted because Election Day has passed. He has zero basis for his so-called "legal claims" and he's going to be spending a whole hell of a lot of lawyer money - probably taxpayer dollars, if he can swing it - finding that out.

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:41 PM
Which is precisely why Trump and his disciples don't want those votes counted.

You mean "manufactured", as on the stop during the "count". Just bullshit, wolf.

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:43 PM
For my part, I'm just smiling as I think about all the posts by Trump-supporting members over the past couple of years that have assured us that their man would not contest the election results, not run to the courts for help, etc., because "that's what Democrats do". Anyone who has watched and listened to Trump over the course of the last four or five years knew very well that he would snap and go full overtired toddler on the system at the first hint that he would be the Loser.

Blather.

When you get mugged, you call the cops. :facepalm:

Standing Wolf
11-04-2020, 02:44 PM
You mean "manufactured", as on the stop during the "count". Just bull$#@!, wolf.

You have as much actual evidence of "cheating" or "voter fraud" in this instance as Trump does - exactly zero. Yet you, like your hero and role model, persist.

Standing Wolf
11-04-2020, 02:45 PM
Blather.

When you get mugged, you call the cops. :facepalm:

Huh?

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:45 PM
Trump himself pretty much said so. He doesn't want the continuation of vote counting in states like PA but AZ, where he's trailing but still has a chance... Sure, count that.


The vote count is mysteriously changing totally to democrats in PA under democrat Shapiro's watch. You know he's full of shit, and the proof is in what I just wrote.

carolina73
11-04-2020, 02:46 PM
Recount. Recount and recount. Ink analysis. Signatures. Date stamped. Keep it going until the Military vote is counted as well which is next week.

Learn from the Democrats and Al Gore. In the end Biden "will never be my President" "Don't blame me I voted for" Trump. Print the bumper stickers.

nathanbforrest45
11-04-2020, 02:47 PM
Wolf, how can you in good conscious support as unqualified candidate like Biden? It really doesn't take much to see he is failing mentally.

I didn't support Obama but I truly did not think he was (1) mentally incompetent or(2) have policies that would reduce America to a Third World Country. You are an intelligent man, you have to understand that Biden's support of the "Green New Deal" is doomed to failure and may take us down a path from which we can never recover. I have never in my 52 year voting history felt a candidate had as his objective the destruction of the economic power of the United States. So how could you in good faith support this ticket?

Although I have always voted Republican there were some Democrats that surprised me. I thought Bill Clinton was a good president for example but this is too much

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:52 PM
You have as much actual evidence of "cheating" or "voter fraud" in this instance as Trump does - exactly zero. Yet you, like your hero and role model, persist.
As this is going to court, one would be ill advised to show one's hand. Isn't that correct at this point?

carolina73
11-04-2020, 02:53 PM
Wolf, how can you in good conscious support as unqualified candidate like Biden? It really doesn't take much to see he is failing mentally.

I didn't support Obama but I truly did not think he was (1) mentally incompetent or(2) have policies that would reduce America to a Third World Country. You are an intelligent man, you have to understand that Biden's support of the "Green New Deal" is doomed to failure and may take us down a path from which we can never recover. I have never in my 52 year voting history felt a candidate had as his objective the destruction of the economic power of the United States. So how could you in good faith support this ticket?

Although I have always voted Republican there were some Democrats that surprised me. I thought Bill Clinton was a good president for example but this is too much

He is probably happier because that way he gets wacky Harris. Bernis Sanders will probably call her a leftists since she votes to the left of him.

jet57
11-04-2020, 02:56 PM
Trump was up by 10pt in Michigan and Pennsylvania at 4am last night, up by 5 in WI. Now he's losing except for PA?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=election+results+2020+presidential+electi on&form=ANNTH1&refig=85d7d4abdb0d41b8a71dbdae240c97af&sp=3&qs=FT&pq=election+results&sk=PRES1FT2&sc=8-16&cvid=85d7d4abdb0d41b8a71dbdae240c97af

The votes are being counted, that's what's up.

Lummy
11-04-2020, 02:57 PM
Huh?
Thank you. :icon_thumleft:

jet57
11-04-2020, 02:57 PM
Corrupt folk at the polls and those overseeing the polling stations. BLATANT corruption.

It's active evil spirits clogging up the counting machines.

TheLiquidGuy
11-04-2020, 03:21 PM
Democrats had their printing presses running in Philly. They shut down long enough to let the ink dry.
I assume you are just venting when you say that.

Lummy
11-04-2020, 03:25 PM
I assume you are just venting when you say that.
Is that a threat? You "assume" a lot.

Daily Bread
11-04-2020, 03:28 PM
The Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and election officials in other states tried to get the rules changed to allow the early counting of ballots, but their efforts were blocked by Republicans. In a number of states - Ohio comes to mind - ballots cast early were counted days ago. Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the delay.

BTW, anyone care to wager on whether or not Trump will boycott a Biden inauguration?

Why shouldn't he boycott an illegal win by the Marxist party . They should understand that sentiment as they survive on its utilization .

Peter1469
11-04-2020, 03:31 PM
For my part, I'm just smiling as I think about all the posts by Trump-supporting members over the past couple of years that have assured us that their man would not contest the election results, not run to the courts for help, etc., because "that's what Democrats do". Anyone who has watched and listened to Trump over the course of the last four or five years knew very well that he would snap and go full overtired toddler on the system at the first hint that he would be the Loser.


I missed those claims.

Daily Bread
11-04-2020, 03:31 PM
That is an unadulterated lie. There is zero evidence of fraud. None whatsoever. You guys really are pathetic.
You had a problem graduating 1st grade didn't you . I'd suggest you get a towel because you're still wet behind your ears

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 03:32 PM
The fantasy the Trump people are pushing about some nonexistent fraud is really absurd and pathetic. I don’t ever want to hear again about how democrats reacted in 2016. We were shocked and devastated, but we didn’t try to undermine the entire electoral process.

Captdon
11-04-2020, 03:34 PM
The Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and election officials in other states tried to get the rules changed to allow the early counting of ballots, but their efforts were blocked by Republicans. In a number of states - Ohio comes to mind - ballots cast early were counted days ago. Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the delay.

BTW, anyone care to wager on whether or not Trump will boycott a Biden inauguration?

He should. He was boycotted.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 03:35 PM
You had a problem graduating 1st grade didn't you . I'd suggest you get a towel because you're still wet behind your ears
Claims of fraud is a right-wing fantasy without a shred of evidence.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 03:37 PM
The Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and election officials in other states tried to get the rules changed to allow the early counting of ballots, but their efforts were blocked by Republicans. In a number of states - Ohio comes to mind - ballots cast early were counted days ago. Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the delay.

BTW, anyone care to wager on whether or not Trump will boycott a Biden inauguration?
Only the State legislature can change the election laws.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 03:38 PM
The Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and election officials in other states tried to get the rules changed to allow the early counting of ballots, but their efforts were blocked by Republicans. In a number of states - Ohio comes to mind - ballots cast early were counted days ago. Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the delay.

BTW, anyone care to wager on whether or not Trump will boycott a Biden inauguration?
President Trump is going to win.

Captdon
11-04-2020, 03:39 PM
The fantasy the Trump people are pushing about some nonexistent fraud is really absurd and pathetic. I don’t ever want to hear again about how democrats reacted in 2016. We were shocked and devastated, but we didn’t try to undermine the entire electoral process.

You said, and still do, that the election of 2016 was illegitimate. Don't try squirming out of that.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 03:41 PM
For my part, I'm just smiling as I think about all the posts by Trump-supporting members over the past couple of years that have assured us that their man would not contest the election results, not run to the courts for help, etc., because "that's what Democrats do". Anyone who has watched and listened to Trump over the course of the last four or five years knew very well that he would snap and go full overtired toddler on the system at the first hint that he would be the Loser.


This is in error. We are not Democrats. We want a legitimate election.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 03:42 PM
Trump himself pretty much said so. He doesn't want the continuation of vote counting in states like PA but AZ, where he's trailing but still has a chance... Sure, count that.
President Trump does not want a continuation of voting after the polls close. Democrats do.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 03:44 PM
You said, and still do, that the election of 2016 was illegitimate. Don't try squirming out of that.
I have never said that. It was fundamentally reckless and dumb, but it was not fraudulent.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 03:44 PM
The fantasy the Trump people are pushing about some nonexistent fraud is really absurd and pathetic. I don’t ever want to hear again about how democrats reacted in 2016. We were shocked and devastated, but we didn’t try to undermine the entire electoral process.
Of course you did. That is what has led us to this point.

invictus
11-04-2020, 03:47 PM
President Trump does not want a continuation of voting after the polls close. Democrats do.


So in other words, he doesn't want mail-in-ballots counted. (Because he know it heavily favors Biden) This is why he's been screaming voter fraud because he knows Democrats vote by mail 2-1 against Republicans this election cycle... I think PA wasn't even allwed by law to cound mailed in ballots until election day so it was always known that it will take time. There's nothing respectable to his opposition that the votes should be counted. It's a democracy, that's how it works.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 04:26 PM
Of course you did. That is what has led us to this point.
Nonsense. The Trump people want to stop counting legal votes. It’s pathetic.

Cletus
11-04-2020, 04:28 PM
It's called counting.
You can call it that if you want, but everyone with an IQ over 3 (which may leave you out) knows better.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 04:30 PM
President Trump does not want a continuation of voting after the polls close. Democrats do.
This is not accurate. Trump wants to stop the counting of votes that were cast before the polls closed. No votes were cast after the polls closed.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 04:32 PM
President Trump does not want a continuation of voting after the polls close. Democrats do.

So in other words, he doesn't want mail-in-ballots counted. (Because he know it heavily favors Biden) This is why he's been screaming voter fraud because he knows Democrats vote by mail 2-1 against Republicans this election cycle... I think PA wasn't even allwed by law to cound mailed in ballots until election day so it was always known that it will take time. There's nothing respectable to his opposition that the votes should be counted. It's a democracy, that's how it works.
Some mailed in ballot rules are problematical.
Signatures don't match. No problem. FRAUD ALERT!
Not postmarked? No problem. FRAUD ALERT!
Did not arrive prior to the close of the polls on election day? No problem. FRAUD ALERT!

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 04:33 PM
Nonsense. The Trump people want to stop counting legal votes. It’s pathetic.
This is a lie.

Tahuyaman
11-04-2020, 04:40 PM
No matter who wins or loses, out election process is a mess. A cluster fuck as we called it in the Army.

We have states in which an unsigned ballot can come in and it will be counted.it’s crazy.

We have a federal judge inserting themself by his own authority ordering federal authorities to take actions. He thinks he’s either part of the administrative or legislative branch.

People in this country better wake up.

The Xl
11-04-2020, 04:42 PM
I think this is pretty much it for the country. We've had lawless rioting, insane lockdowns, and now our own election process is openly tainted. I think its pretty obvious that this country is run from the shadows by elites with a nefarious agenda. You're not going to see all of the effects immediately, but over time it will become apparent.

invictus
11-04-2020, 04:45 PM
President Trump does not want a continuation of voting after the polls close. Democrats do.

Some mailed in ballot rules are problematical.
Signatures don't match. No problem. FRAUD ALERT!
Not postmarked? No problem. FRAUD ALERT!
Did not arrive prior to the close of the polls on election day? No problem. FRAUD ALERT!


Signatures often don't match. Have you ever tried signing on the led screen. It never comes out the way you'd sign it on paper.

Not being postmarked would insinuate the USPS to be in on a fraud somehow... Which I seriously doubt.

What does it matter if it arrived in time or not? How does that make the vote fraudulent? I agree that people should have sent it out earlier but that doesn't in any way suggest fraud.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:50 PM
hmmm...dems voted early but their votes are the last to be counted in Michigan and Wisconsin. At 4am down by 10pts to up by 1pt by noon the next day...and the % doesn't change the rest of the day. Smells fishy to me.



It's expected that Dems voted early 2-1 compared with Reps...

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 04:54 PM
Pardon me, but the signatures here are not be written on a computer screen with a stylus. So while I get you point, your point is pointless.

An enveloped not postmarked by the post office insinuates the envelope did not pass through the post office.

Don't pay your mortgage payment on time and then let's talk about why there are due dates.







Signatures often don't match. Have you ever tried signing on the led screen. It never comes out the way you'd sign it on paper.

Not being postmarked would insinuate the USPS to be in on a fraud somehow... Which I seriously doubt.

What does it matter if it arrived in time or not? How does that make the vote fraudulent? I agree that people should have sent it out earlier but that doesn't in any way suggest fraud.

RichardMZhlubb
11-04-2020, 04:56 PM
hmmm...dems voted early but their votes are the last to be counted in Michigan and Wisconsin. At 4am down by 10pts to up by 1pt by noon the next day...and the % doesn't change the rest of the day. Smells fishy to me.
You do know that election officials in those states wanted to be allowed to count mail in votes earlier, but Republican state legislatures refused to change the rules and insisted that those votes not be counted until after the election day votes, right?

invictus
11-04-2020, 04:58 PM
hmmm...dems voted early but their votes are the last to be counted in Michigan and Wisconsin. At 4am down by 10pts to up by 1pt by noon the next day...and the % doesn't change the rest of the day. Smells fishy to me.
Or you know, given both candidates message on Coronavirus, seems pretty in line. Democrats worried about it and took precautions by voting early. Republicans didn't and most came out on election day. As was expected btw.

Chris
11-04-2020, 04:59 PM
The delay has to do with states allowing mail-in ballots to be counted as long as they're postmarked Nov 3rd. Some of those states limit the wait to 10 days. The liberals on Texas Public Radio explained that.

I don't like that but state law is state law and it should be followed and if not taken to court.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:06 PM
No issue with legally submitted ballots from living residents of a State with verified signatures.

invictus
11-04-2020, 05:17 PM
Pardon me, but the signatures here are not be written on a computer screen with a stylus. So while I get you point, your point is pointless.

An enveloped not postmarked by the post office insinuates the envelope did not pass through the post office.

Don't pay your mortgage payment on time and then let's talk about why there are due dates.

Even then, my signute for instance, is completely different than the one I used 10 years ago. On top of that, it never comes out exactly the same either.

I just looked through all my mail and not one envelope has a postmark on it. I'm fairly certain that they all went through the Post Office. Besides, there are people from both parties that are watching the pollsters. It would be extremely difficult to sneak in a significant amount of ballots. It would also be extremely difficult to either steal or intercept or order a significant amount of ballots of registered voters. (Which is what's required in order for the vote to count.)

Yeah, if you send your ballot on the day of election, that should still count. The same way if you send the IRS payment on the day of the deadline it counts without being considered late. They're counting ballots that arrive 3 days after the election day. That's the cutoff. The averaghe time it takes USPS to delive I think is 5 days.... Seems reasonable to me.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 05:20 PM
Signatures don't match. No problem. FRAUD ALERT!
Not postmarked? No problem. FRAUD ALERT!
Did not arrive prior to the close of the polls on election day? No problem. FRAUD ALERT!

Signatures often don't match. Have you ever tried signing on the led screen. It never comes out the way you'd sign it on paper.
The law says the signature on your mailed in ballot must match. If it doesn't or if there is no signature it is fraudulent. Your in-person signature is given in the presence of an official. It is an entirely different situation.

Not being postmarked would insinuate the USPS to be in on a fraud somehow... Which I seriously doubt.
The law says the ballot must be postmarked before the polls close. Without a postmark the ballot is fraudulent.

What does it matter if it arrived in time or not? How does that make the vote fraudulent? I agree that people should have sent it out earlier but that doesn't in any way suggest fraud.
Can you vote in person today? Why not?

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 05:22 PM
You do know that election officials in those states wanted to be allowed to count mail in votes earlier, but Republican state legislatures refused to change the rules and insisted that those votes not be counted until after the election day votes, right?
The Constitution gives the state legislatures the sole authority for choosing electors.

This election is fraudulent.

MisterVeritis
11-04-2020, 05:23 PM
... They're counting ballots that arrive 3 days after the election day. That's the cutoff. The averaghe time it takes USPS to delive I think is 5 days.... Seems reasonable to me.
What did the state legislature say in the law? Doing anything else is fraudulent.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:24 PM
Your signature is no different than it was 10 years ago, give me a break. Exception: if you had your writing hand amputated and had to switch.

My concern is not necessarily with the poll watchers, where in Philly such are not allowed within 50 feet of the people processing the ballots, my concern is fraudulent ballots.

btw...I sold your car today. So tomorrow when the new owner comes to pick it up, just know it was all legal because I signed your name.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:38 PM
Checking made easy.

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invictus
11-04-2020, 05:47 PM
The law says the signature on your mailed in ballot must match. If it doesn't or if there is no signature it is fraudulent. Your in-person signature is given in the presence of an official. It is an entirely different situation.

I could be wrong but I think it's a state by state thing...


The law says the ballot must be postmarked before the polls close. Without a postmark the ballot is fraudulent.

If it's not postmarked but received before or on the election day too? How would that be fraudulent? And those that arrive 3 days after election day are unlikely to have been sent after the deadline given that the average time of delivery is 5-6 days.


Can you vote in person today? Why not?

I can's send a ballot today either, now can I?

invictus
11-04-2020, 05:48 PM
What did the state legislature say in the law? Doing anything else is fraudulent.

I don't know, what did it say?

invictus
11-04-2020, 05:50 PM
Your signature is no different than it was 10 years ago, give me a break. Exception: if you had your writing hand amputated and had to switch.

My concern is not necessarily with the poll watchers, where in Philly such are not allowed within 50 feet of the people processing the ballots, my concern is fraudulent ballots.

btw...I sold your car today. So tomorrow when the new owner comes to pick it up, just know it was all legal because I signed your name.


Speak for yourself. My signature is different.

Where are all these fraudulent ballots do you suppose come from? On top of that, why the certainty that it will favor Biden and not Trump? Bias?
If we live by the standards that of your car metaphor, then all votes cast can be argued to be fraudulent...

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 05:51 PM
You have to be kidding. I can put a piece of mail in my mailbox, raise the red flag, and if it's it town, it's there tomorrow. I think I'll sell your house tomorrow.

Calypso Jones
11-04-2020, 05:57 PM
This is what happens when you send out unsolicited, addressed to any and everyone living dead illegal, insane and in the animal kingdom mail in ballots. But the left knew this. They knew they could count on their base to fill out one or two or more in slightly different name, fictitious names and the names of the dead. This is what they think of fairness and the integrity of the voting system. THEY have no integrity and will do whatever it takes, WHAT. EVER it takes to secure a win...because they cannot do it legitimately.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:01 PM
That's what I'm saying. Bring in the 'independent' bank auditors to verify authenticity of the ballot. Why would anyone have a problem with that, we all want to know the truth. Maybe some don't.




This is what happens when you send out unsolicited, addressed to any and everyone living dead illegal, insane and in the animal kingdom mail in ballots. But the left knew this. They knew they could count on their base to fill out one or two or more in slightly different name, fictitious names and the names of the dead. This is what they think of fairness and the integrity of the voting system. THEY have no integrity and will do whatever it takes, WHAT. EVER it takes to secure a win...because they cannot do it legitimately.

BenjaminO
11-04-2020, 06:05 PM
He isn't. He's wanting the millions of ballots received before Election Day to be NOT counted because Election Day has passed. He has zero basis for his so-called "legal claims" and he's going to be spending a whole hell of a lot of lawyer money - probably taxpayer dollars, if he can swing it - finding that out.
His limited knowledge of common law is amazing.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:09 PM
So the Dems over there pissing in that bucket, and the Reps are over there pissing in that bucket.

Bring in the independent auditors! They do this kind of thing for a living.

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:09 PM
You have to be kidding. I can put a piece of mail in my mailbox, raise the red flag, and if it's it town, it's there tomorrow. I think I'll sell your house tomorrow.


Yeah, the USPS has been scrutinized quite a bit for the fact that it takes so long to deliver mail. Avg, 5-6 days... I know my Amazon orders have been coming a month after the date promised. That fact has caused me to cancel my Prime membership because I called them so mu about my package not arriving that the suspected I was fraudulently doing so. (Their computers would say it arrive) I got the packages after I was pissed off and canceled my membership.

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:10 PM
This is what happens when you send out unsolicited, addressed to any and everyone living dead illegal, insane and in the animal kingdom mail in ballots. But the left knew this. They knew they could count on their base to fill out one or two or more in slightly different name, fictitious names and the names of the dead. This is what they think of fairness and the integrity of the voting system. THEY have no integrity and will do whatever it takes, WHAT. EVER it takes to secure a win...because they cannot do it legitimately.

I'm pretty sure I've read that ballots are checked against SS records. Meaning, if the person is dead, the ballot won't be counted.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:14 PM
horsecrap. put a stamp on it, put in the mailbox, it gets to the 'send to' tomorrow if it's in town. 5-6 days my arse.




Yeah, the USPS has been scrutinized quite a bit for the fact that it takes so long to deliver mail. Avg, 5-6 days... I know my Amazon orders have been coming a month after the date promised. That fact has caused me to cancel my Prime membership because I called them so mu about my package not arriving that the suspected I was fraudulently doing so. (Their computers would say it arrive) I got the packages after I was pissed off and canceled my membership.

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:15 PM
horsecrap. put a stamp on it, put in the mailbox, it gets to the 'send to' tomorrow if it's in town. 5-6 days my arse.

Yeah... I'll trust reports from newspapers...

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:18 PM
You do that. I'll check my bank account and note the check I sent in the mail two days made it across the country to a bank today with no late fees.

You are spewing BS.




Yeah... I'll trust reports from newspapers...

TheLiquidGuy
11-04-2020, 06:20 PM
The fantasy the Trump people are pushing about some nonexistent fraud is really absurd and pathetic. I don’t ever want to hear again about how democrats reacted in 2016. We were shocked and devastated, but we didn’t try to undermine the entire electoral process.

This is an attempted soft coup!!!!!!!!


yes. The hypocrisy is thick in the air. Democrats didn't threaten law suits in 2016. They didn't attempt to slow the vote count and then complain that the count was taking too long. Hillary accepted the results. she waited for the counting to finish. She conceded. She didn't call the election a fraud and attempt to sow unrest over it. Donald and his kids wont stop until there is violence. Remember how he reacted to the Trump truck colliding with biden's bus motorcade? how they tried to stop the bus?



I never paid attention to how Republicans reacted to Obama winning. But now that I am looking I see nothing but dangerous rhetoric coming from the trump camp. seeding divisiveness and possibly violence. This is not what a leader should do. This is why he need to be gone. He divides the country against itself. He is bad for the country.

Captdon
11-04-2020, 06:23 PM
Signatures often don't match. Have you ever tried signing on the led screen. It never comes out the way you'd sign it on paper.

Not being postmarked would insinuate the USPS to be in on a fraud somehow... Which I seriously doubt.

What does it matter if it arrived in time or not? How does that make the vote fraudulent? I agree that people should have sent it out earlier but that doesn't in any way suggest fraud.

You aren't signing on an LED screen. You sign in on paper. It's a fraud.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:28 PM
who is this putz? Bone head, your doggs spent 3 years and $40M to promote a phony Russian collusion narrative. And when it was learned you were colluding with the Russian, you tried to impeach this President with zero basis. But you didn't try to undermine the entire electoral process? It's quite the opposite, you and your minions have engaged in lawlessness and fraud, cheats.



https://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by RichardMZhlubb https://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=3048049#post3048049)
The fantasy the Trump people are pushing about some nonexistent fraud is really absurd and pathetic. I don’t ever want to hear again about how democrats reacted in 2016. We were shocked and devastated, but we didn’t try to undermine the entire electoral process.







This is an attempted soft coup!!!!!!!!


yes. The hypocrisy is thick in the air. Democrats didn't threaten law suits in 2016. They didn't attempt to slow the vote count and then complain that the count was taking too long. Hillary accepted the results. she waited for the counting to finish. She conceded. She didn't call the election a fraud and attempt to sow unrest over it. Donald and his kids wont stop until there is violence. Remember how he reacted to the Trump truck colliding with biden's bus motorcade? how they tried to stop the bus?



I never paid attention to how Republicans reacted to Obama winning. But now that I am looking I see nothing but dangerous rhetoric coming from the trump camp. seeding divisiveness and possibly violence. This is not what a leader should do. This is why he need to be gone. He divides the country against itself. He is bad for the country.

Captdon
11-04-2020, 06:29 PM
Yeah, the USPS has been scrutinized quite a bit for the fact that it takes so long to deliver mail. Avg, 5-6 days... I know my Amazon orders have been coming a month after the date promised. That fact has caused me to cancel my Prime membership because I called them so mu about my package not arriving that the suspected I was fraudulently doing so. (Their computers would say it arrive) I got the packages after I was pissed off and canceled my membership.

Poor ,poor, pitiful you. Amazon is never more than a day later than they say.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:32 PM
Cappie, you make a good point. Half the stuff we get from Amazon is delivered via the US Post office the next day, sometimes same day. Maybe 2 days later. Never 5-6 days like Victim likes to say.




Poor ,poor, pitiful you. Amazon is never more than a day later than they say.

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:34 PM
Poor ,poor, pitiful you. Amazon is never more than a day later than they say.

Not the case here in NY. I would get a text that my package was delivered but no package... A month later.... And it happened on three occasions. I don't know if that's the result of the pandemic but ever since it started that has been the case. And it's not just Amazon. I ordered checkbooks, got a text that it was delivered and nothing came for like 3 weeks after I got the text.

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:35 PM
Cappie, you make a good point. Half the stuff we get from Amazon is delivered via the US Post office the next day, sometimes same day. Maybe 2 days later. Never 5-6 days like Victim likes to say.

Yeah sure... lets just ignore the various reports out there and believe the two guys on a messenging board.

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:37 PM
There was plenty of publication saying that on election night, Trump will lead but as the counting goes on the race will be close.
I believe the term was 'Red Mirage'. An early lead for trump, and then a narrowing.

trump encouraged his voters to show up in person.

They did. That doesn't negate the fact that elections always entail allowing everyone to vote.

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:38 PM
It's called rigging, collusion and theft, and it is a crime.
Good luck with that.

BenjaminO
11-04-2020, 06:40 PM
Yeah, the USPS has been scrutinized quite a bit for the fact that it takes so long to deliver mail. Avg, 5-6 days... I know my Amazon orders have been coming a month after the date promised. That fact has caused me to cancel my Prime membership because I called them so mu about my package not arriving that the suspected I was fraudulently doing so. (Their computers would say it arrive) I got the packages after I was pissed off and canceled my membership.
It's really sad what Don and his minion DeJoy have done to the USPS. It wasn't perfect by any means but I've also noticed huge delays in deliveries from Amazon, eBay and other places. They managed to make it much worse.

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:41 PM
sorry folks, you don't go from up 5-10pts with 80-90% in at 4am and wake up a few hours later to find yourself down by 1. Oh, and just in Wisonsin and Michigan. Something doesn't smell right.
You got links to those percentages? 20% of 5 million votes is quite a bit of votes. Is this your first election? They always follow these trends, but with Covid, many more people opted not to show up in person. It merely magnifies standard trends.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:43 PM
Or believe my own damn mailbox!!!

What report out there, what messaging board? Are you a cabbage head?





Yeah sure... lets just ignore the various reports out there and believe the two guys on a messenging board.

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:43 PM
bump.

BenjaminO
11-04-2020, 06:44 PM
Poor ,poor, pitiful you. Amazon is never more than a day later than they say.
Bullshit.

Adelaide
11-04-2020, 06:45 PM
You got links to those percentages? 20% of 5 million votes is quite a bit of votes. Is this your first election? They always follow these trends, but with Covid, many more people opted not to show up in person. It merely magnifies standard trends.
Looking at the maps last night, listening to the number of mail-in ballots needing to be counted... none of this is surprising. All you had to do was look at a major city and go, "Hm, I think Philadelphia has more than 110,000 voters" and then listen to the news for a couple minutes about the number of ballots to be counted.

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:46 PM
The Secretary of State in Pennsylvania and election officials in other states tried to get the rules changed to allow the early counting of ballots, but their efforts were blocked by Republicans. In a number of states - Ohio comes to mind - ballots cast early were counted days ago. Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for the delay. Yes. I'm glad someone pointed that out. It would be comical, if it weren't so sad.

Also noteworthy is that trump's threats of legal action are hilarious. He's going to sue to stop counting votes in states where he's ahead, but wants to keep counting in states where he's behind.

Does he understand that people realize the irony?


BTW, anyone care to wager on whether or not Trump will boycott a Biden inauguration?I don't see him showing up. He'll probably cite John Lewis, and numerous House members as precedent.

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:46 PM
It's expected that Dems voted early 2-1 compared with Reps...

As per usual

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:47 PM
Corrupt folk at the polls and those overseeing the polling stations. BLATANT corruption.

It must cost billions to fund this blatant corruption. You think Hunter is funding it?

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:47 PM
Or believe my own damn mailbox!!!

What report out there, what messaging board? Are you a cabbage head?


First link on a simple Google search...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/19/postal-problems-could-continue-despite-suspension-policies-blamed-mail-delays/

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:48 PM
Addie, may I ask of what concern this is to you?


No postmark, no signature verification. Who are you? Democrats...that's not important.







Looking at the maps last night, listening to the number of mail-in ballots needing to be counted... none of this is surprising. All you had to do was look at a major city and go, "Hm, I think Philadelphia has more than 110,000 voters" and then listen to the news for a couple minutes about the number of ballots to be counted.

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:49 PM
Yes. I'm glad someone pointed that out. It would be comical, if it weren't so sad.

Also noteworthy is that trump's threats of legal action are hilarious. He's going to sue to stop counting votes in states where he's ahead, but wants to keep counting in states where he's behind.

Does he understand that people realize the irony?

I don't see him showing up. He'll probably cite John Lewis, and numerous House members as precedent.


To be fair, a lot of folks don't see it as 'irony' as much as 'Trump is fighting blatant corruption'.

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:49 PM
Which is precisely why Trump and his disciples don't want those votes counted.
I'm thinking millions of people are wishing they could get seated at a poker table with him. He showed his hand months ago.

HawkTheSlayer
11-04-2020, 06:50 PM
First link on a simple Google search...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/19/postal-problems-could-continue-despite-suspension-policies-blamed-mail-delays/

Strike one and strike two.

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:50 PM
If he is talking about any ballots that showed up without post marks after the polls closed then I am with the President on this one.

And if he's not?

invictus
11-04-2020, 06:54 PM
Strike one and strike two.

Do elaborate... Hell even USPS website FAQ warns of delays due to Coronavirus...

testsubjectalpha
11-04-2020, 06:54 PM
Why is it that those here seem to be scared of an independent audit of the ballot?

John Galt
11-04-2020, 06:54 PM
The vote count is mysteriously changing totally to democrats in PA under democrat Shapiro's watch. You know he's full of $#@!, and the proof is in what I just wrote.
So you question Georgia because of Kemp?