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OGIS
11-15-2020, 12:29 PM
Title changed by mods. Original title: Hey, tPF fascists, here's your safe space

United States presidential election, 2020 (https://conservapedia.com/United_States_presidential_election,_2020?utm_sour ce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)LOL, "Both Biden and Harris are descendants of slave owners (https://conservapedia.com/Slave_Power)."Yeah, that's relevant.

Captain Obvious
11-15-2020, 12:29 PM
They're all flooding to Parler.

It's going to be the next Stormfront.

hanger4
11-15-2020, 12:32 PM
United States presidential election, 2020 (https://conservapedia.com/United_States_presidential_election,_2020?utm_sour ce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)
LOL, "Both Biden and Harris are descendants of slave owners (https://conservapedia.com/Slave_Power)."

Yeah, that's relevant.

Makes sense, after all they're both Democrats. :roflmao:

Lummy
11-15-2020, 12:37 PM
United States presidential election, 2020 (https://conservapedia.com/United_States_presidential_election,_2020?utm_sour ce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)


LOL, "Both Biden and Harris are descendants of slave owners (https://conservapedia.com/Slave_Power)."

Yeah, that's relevant.

Family heritage is very relevant to many people, certainly including these descendants of KKK.

What is wrong with you? Did you just drop by and decide you'd learn how to make hangman's nooses, part of democrat culture?

Calypso Jones
11-15-2020, 01:07 PM
I'm thinking it is sorta relevant and laden with hypocrisy to hold others responsible for slaveholding when your own family was engaging in it. I think most of America feels the same way.

Calypso Jones
11-15-2020, 01:09 PM
United States presidential election, 2020 (https://conservapedia.com/United_States_presidential_election,_2020?utm_sour ce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)


LOL, "Both Biden and Harris are descendants of slave owners (https://conservapedia.com/Slave_Power)."

Yeah, that's relevant.

Where was your safe space? And it might help although i doubt it for you to look up the definition of fascists.

Fascists hate freedom of speech..and they also want to harm in more ways than just physical their opponents.

Now WHO is showing the unmistakeable signs of being Fascistic??

Calypso Jones
11-15-2020, 01:15 PM
I'm witnessing something quite disturbing. A minority with the definitive support and cooperation of the media and blue state/city police are changing the definitions, distorting truth and targeting a certain segment of the population.

The Left is calling the right...us...on this forum...fascists...when it is they who have adopted fascist behavior, thinking, actions, speech. This is America....Home of the Free and it is fast becoming something most of us have never seen before.

Captain Obvious
11-15-2020, 01:18 PM
I'm witnessing something quite disturbing. A minority with the definitive support and cooperation of the media and blue state/city police are changing the definitions, distorting truth and targeting a certain segment of the population.

The Left is calling the right...us...on this forum...fascists...when it is they who have adopted fascist behavior, thinking, actions, speech. This is America....Home of the Free and it is fast becoming something most of us have never seen before.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/66Vtho6p2UinahweE5wHU1tjO9k=/1800x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost/public/2RGXEYQAH4I6XMHEGUHE4YGMSE.jpg?imwidth=1800

Captain Obvious
11-15-2020, 01:19 PM
I don't think 94% of them are wearing masks too, countryboy

Calypso Jones
11-15-2020, 01:33 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/66Vtho6p2UinahweE5wHU1tjO9k=/1800x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost/public/2RGXEYQAH4I6XMHEGUHE4YGMSE.jpg?imwidth=1800


don't know where you got that photo but i'm sure you're tryng to say that the aggressor is the right. We all know that is not the truth. We've witnessed the rise of antifa/blm and their violence. ANything the right does to protect themselves or to prepare and you call that violence..yet...none of them have risen to the level of violence of your own side.

Captain Obvious
11-15-2020, 01:35 PM
don't know where you got that photo but i'm sure you're tryng to say that the aggressor is the right. We all know that is not the truth. We've witnessed the rise of antifa/blm and their violence. ANything the right does to protect themselves or to prepare and you call that violence..yet...none of them have risen to the level of violence of your own side.

I'm sure you're sure what I'm trying to say and you have no idea, you don't do well with logic. Junk news and projecting falsehoods - yeah, you're an expert at it.

There are two sides to the coin. I know your limited intellect wants black and white and solid dividing lines but in reality there is violence and hatred on both sides of the spectrum.

That you want to be a cheerleader for one side and ignore reality is your folly.

Captain Obvious
11-15-2020, 01:41 PM
And, if all the resident blow-up doll fascists flock over there soon (by 1/20/21) all the better.

It can be like the safe space Trinn's site was but without the implosive drama among the inmates.

Yinz guys can soak up all the shithead news and tabloid links all you want without the threat of intelligence, facts or objectivity shattering your snowflake egos.

:biglaugh:

OGIS
11-15-2020, 02:12 PM
I'm thinking it is sorta relevant and laden with hypocrisy to hold others responsible for slaveholding when your own family was engaging in it. I think most of America feels the same way.


Family heritage is very relevant to many people, certainly including these descendants of KKK.

Actual individualists, i.e.: those who are not collectivists of one sort or another, judge the merits of each person based on each person's individual qualities. Pigeon-holing someone based on their ancestry or family history is a form of collectivism and a close analog of racism. And being proud of your ancestry is simply a lazy way of patting yourself on the back for something that YOU, as an individual, have not EARNED. It is the antithesis of the American mythos.

OGIS
11-15-2020, 02:14 PM
I'm thinking it is sorta relevant and laden with hypocrisy to hold others responsible for slaveholding when your own family was engaging in it. I think most of America feels the same way.
Logically and morally, please tell me how I am responsible in any way for the sins of my ancestors, over whom I had no control since I was not yet born?

I'll wait.

OGIS
11-15-2020, 02:19 PM
I'm witnessing something quite disturbing. A minority with the definitive support and cooperation of the media and blue state/city police are changing the definitions, distorting truth and targeting a certain segment of the population.

The Left is calling the right...us...on this forum...fascists...when it is they who have adopted fascist behavior, thinking, actions, speech. This is America....Home of the Free and it is fast becoming something most of us have never seen before.

Are these very fine people?

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These are fascists and Nazis. They are your people. You take the same side they do. You OWN this.
Deal with it, fascist.

OGIS
11-15-2020, 02:21 PM
And, if all the resident blow-up doll fascists flock over there soon (by 1/20/21) all the better.

It can be like the safe space Trinn's site was but without the implosive drama among the inmates.

Yinz guys can soak up all the $#@!head news and tabloid links all you want without the threat of intelligence, facts or objectivity shattering your snowflake egos.

:biglaugh:

What is Trinn's site?

Chris
11-15-2020, 02:22 PM
Here we go with the fascism canard once again by ogis.

Here's a fascist/Nazi who voted for Biden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGhXo_a5NAM


White Nationalist Richard Spencer Votes for Joe Biden (https://www.newsweek.com/white-nationalist-richard-spencer-votes-joe-biden-hell-libertarian-ideology-1544572)

jet57
11-15-2020, 02:24 PM
They're all flooding to Parler.

It's going to be the next Stormfront.

Itís probably a subsidiary of Stormfront: a recruiting center...

jet57
11-15-2020, 02:26 PM
I'm thinking it is sorta relevant and laden with hypocrisy to hold others responsible for slaveholding when your own family was engaging in it. I think most of America feels the same way.

Does that go along with all that proof you were going to post that shows that the 2020 election was illegitimate?

Captain Obvious
11-15-2020, 02:27 PM
What is Trinn's site?

Sister site to this - https://thepoliticsforums.com/forum.php

Trinn was a mod here and went off to do her own thing. She's not popular with some but she's always been good with me and vice versa and I only have good things to say about her personally. Calypso Jones used to be her attack dog over there but something happened in Whoville and a bunch of their refugees wound up here.

And the site, if you're anywhere left of Hitler and have more than 3 brain cells they will promptly escort you to the door.

Chris
11-15-2020, 02:33 PM
Actual individualists, i.e.: those who are not collectivists of one sort or another, judge the merits of each person based on each person's individual qualities. Pigeon-holing someone based on their ancestry or family history is a form of collectivism and a close analog of racism. And being proud of your ancestry is simply a lazy way of patting yourself on the back for something that YOU, as an individual, have not EARNED. It is the antithesis of the American mythos.


You're right about one thing, modern collectivism is a form of individualism first defined by Hegel and then taken up by Marx in which social order and custom is undermined and the state put in its place to free the individual from the natural law chains of society. That is what you just said.

What you left out is this: Postmodernism gives us neoMarxism where the oppressed group is not the working class but identity classes like race, sex, orientation, etc, under a rainbow racist flag.

Leanne778
11-15-2020, 02:35 PM
don't know where you got that photo but i'm sure you're tryng to say that the aggressor is the right. We all know that is not the truth. We've witnessed the rise of antifa/blm and their violence. ANything the right does to protect themselves or to prepare and you call that violence..yet...none of them have risen to the level of violence of your own side.

You don't know where he got the photo? These are your people for pete sakes! The aggressor is the right. Let me jog your memory a little bit:

Within minutes after U.S. President Donald Trump told the Proud Boys, a far-right group with members who espouse white supremacism, to “stand back and stand by,” on national television on Sept. 29, 2020, members of the men-only group took to fringe social media sites to celebrate what they considered a “historic (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-proud-boys-biden.html)” moment for their ideological push against leftists.
The president’s comment — which viewers interpreted as either an endorsement of neo-fascism or an example of his unorganized speaking style — took place on a presidential debate stage with Democratic rival Joe Biden after moderator Chris Wallace asked Trump to condemn white supremacists (https://www.adl.org/resources/glossary-terms/white-supremacy) and militia groups, and he did not do it.
Here's a little bit more about your group that you may not know:

Infighting has broken out between two leading members of the Proud Boys group, with one announcing he will be taking control of the far-right organization to address "White Genocide" and the "failures of multiculturalism."
White nationalist Kyle Chapman—who set up the "tactical defense arm" of the Proud Boys, the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights (FOAK)—has criticized the group's chairman Enrique Tarrio while announcing a so-called rebranding of the organization.
Writing on encrypted messaging app Telegram, Chapman used racial slurs against Tarrio and other neo-Nazi rhetoric while announcing that the "grifting leaders" had been deposed and the group would be renamed the Proud Goys. The term "goy"—a Hebrew word for a non-Jewish person—is sometimes used by white supremacists to signal their anti-Semitic beliefs, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Due to the recent failure of Proud Boy Chairman Enrique Tarrio to conduct himself with honor and courage on the battlefield, it has been decided that I Kyle Chapman reassume my post as President of Proud Boys effective immediately," Chapman wrote. "Our logo will forthwith be changed to reflect the core beliefs of Proud Boy members.


We will no longer cuck to the left by appointing token negroes as our leaders. We will no longer allow homosexuals or other 'undesirables' into our ranks. We will confront the Zionist criminals who wish to destroy our civilization. "We recognize that the West was built by the White Race alone and we owe nothing to any other race."
https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-based-stickman-enrique-tarrio-goys-1546597

And who really gives a crap who is the leader I just wanted to keep the story in context but if you read that last paragraph it tells you what they are all about and Trump supports this crap.

MisterVeritis
11-15-2020, 02:37 PM
Are these very fine people?
...
These are fascists and Nazis. They are your people. You take the same side they do. You OWN this.
Deal with it, fascist.
Another day another lie, Ogis?

Fascism and Nazism are ideologies well suited for your team.

Calypso Jones
11-15-2020, 02:42 PM
Actual individualists, i.e.: those who are not collectivists of one sort or another, judge the merits of each person based on each person's individual qualities. Pigeon-holing someone based on their ancestry or family history is a form of collectivism and a close analog of racism. And being proud of your ancestry is simply a lazy way of patting yourself on the back for something that YOU, as an individual, have not EARNED. It is the antithesis of the American mythos.

well then perhaps you ought to be looking at the remarks of your own side when y'all started this.

Calypso Jones
11-15-2020, 02:45 PM
I'm thinking it is sorta relevant and laden with hypocrisy to hold others responsible for slaveholding when your own family was engaging in it. I think most of America feels the same way.

the left accuses the right...if you're white as your ancestors owning slaves. THat is far from the truth...but those same folk...obama and others that started the whole thing definitely have the slave holding ancestors...and their supporters, here in particular, either don't know, don't remember or are just flat out lying.

Things are going bad in this country...and you white leftists...you are in for a big surprise from your own side.

Chris
11-15-2020, 02:47 PM
You don't know where he got the photo? These are your people for pete sakes! The aggressor is the right. Let me jog your memory a little bit:

Within minutes after U.S. President Donald Trump told the Proud Boys, a far-right group with members who espouse white supremacism, to “stand back and stand by,” on national television on Sept. 29, 2020, members of the men-only group took to fringe social media sites to celebrate what they considered a “historic (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-proud-boys-biden.html)” moment for their ideological push against leftists.
The president’s comment — which viewers interpreted as either an endorsement of neo-fascism or an example of his unorganized speaking style — took place on a presidential debate stage with Democratic rival Joe Biden after moderator Chris Wallace asked Trump to condemn white supremacists (https://www.adl.org/resources/glossary-terms/white-supremacy) and militia groups, and he did not do it.
Here's a little bit more about your group that you may not know:

Infighting has broken out between two leading members of the Proud Boys group, with one announcing he will be taking control of the far-right organization to address "White Genocide" and the "failures of multiculturalism."
White nationalist Kyle Chapman—who set up the "tactical defense arm" of the Proud Boys, the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights (FOAK)—has criticized the group's chairman Enrique Tarrio while announcing a so-called rebranding of the organization.
Writing on encrypted messaging app Telegram, Chapman used racial slurs against Tarrio and other neo-Nazi rhetoric while announcing that the "grifting leaders" had been deposed and the group would be renamed the Proud Goys. The term "goy"—a Hebrew word for a non-Jewish person—is sometimes used by white supremacists to signal their anti-Semitic beliefs, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center.

Due to the recent failure of Proud Boy Chairman Enrique Tarrio to conduct himself with honor and courage on the battlefield, it has been decided that I Kyle Chapman reassume my post as President of Proud Boys effective immediately," Chapman wrote. "Our logo will forthwith be changed to reflect the core beliefs of Proud Boy members.


We will no longer cuck to the left by appointing token negroes as our leaders. We will no longer allow homosexuals or other 'undesirables' into our ranks. We will confront the Zionist criminals who wish to destroy our civilization. "We recognize that the West was built by the White Race alone and we owe nothing to any other race."
https://www.newsweek.com/proud-boys-based-stickman-enrique-tarrio-goys-1546597

And who really gives a crap who is the leader I just wanted to keep the story in context but if you read that last paragraph it tells you what they are all about and Trump supports this crap.



“stand back and stand by”

Here's a leftist so trustworthy explaining the phrase @ https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/trump-debate-stand-back-stand-by-proud-boys-white-nationalists-20200930.html:


The two phrases both go back to the late Middle Ages/early Tudor years, albeit with goofy spellings like “stonde bac” and “standyne by.” But stand by is the more complicated phrase, laden with considerably more meaning — which helps explain why it will likely be cited alongside phrases like “very fine people” and “suburban housewives” to describe Trump’s racism.

The Oxford English Dictionary gives just one definition for stand back, but stand by goes on for six entries — several of which will give plausible deniability to those who disclaim racist intent on Trump’s behalf. But today’s most common understanding of stand by — “to hold oneself in readiness, be prepared (for something, to do something)” — came along in the 17th century. The definition adds, “Often in imperative = be ready!” — notable because Trump used it in the imperative, and because who knew that the OED uses exclamation points within its definitions? Guess that old dictionary is wilder than we thought.


In short, stand ready, not start something but stand ready for the left to start something.

OGIS
11-15-2020, 02:53 PM
Sister site to this - https://thepoliticsforums.com/forum.php

Trinn was a mod here and went off to do her own thing. She's not popular with some but she's always been good with me and vice versa and I only have good things to say about her personally. Calypso Jones used to be her attack dog over there but something happened in Whoville and a bunch of their refugees wound up here.

And the site, if you're anywhere left of Hitler and have more than 3 brain cells they will promptly escort you to the door.

Ah, yes. I'm familiar with it. I was actually on it briefly, but had forgotten (as it was entirely forgettable). Marching ants in lockstep; Echo Chamber Extraordinaire.

It IS extraordinary how the Far Right screams about Freedumb and Individualism, yet demands that their True Believers march in lockstep.

I suspect that this "Parler" will be exactly the same.

OGIS
11-15-2020, 02:54 PM
You're right about one thing, modern collectivism is a form of individualism first defined by Hegel and then taken up by Marx in which social order and custom is undermined and the state put in its place to free the individual from the natural law chains of society. That is what you just said.

What you left out is this: Postmodernism gives us neoMarxism where the oppressed group is not the working class but identity classes like race, sex, orientation, etc, under a rainbow racist flag.

LOL, word salad. Absolute unadulterated bullshiat. Are you having a stroke? Do you smell burnt toast? Should we call someone?

Davis
11-15-2020, 02:55 PM
Parler is just another scam by the Mercers to more efficiently shear the sheep.

OGIS
11-15-2020, 02:56 PM
Another day another lie, Ogis?

Fascism and Nazism are ideologies well suited for your team.


Tell us the lie, Mr. Lie.

Leanne778
11-15-2020, 02:59 PM
“stand back and stand by”

Here's a leftist so trustworthy explaining the phrase @ https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/trump-debate-stand-back-stand-by-proud-boys-white-nationalists-20200930.html:




In short, stand ready, not start something but stand ready for the left to start something.
I call bullshit on this post. You know exactly what Trump meant and so did the proud boys. If it wasn't...why celebrate?

Chris
11-15-2020, 03:15 PM
I call bullshit on this post. You know exactly what Trump meant and so did the proud boys. If it wasn't...why celebrate?

He meant exactly what the phrase means.

Celebrate what?

MisterVeritis
11-15-2020, 03:22 PM
Tell us the lie, Mr. Lie.
You know you are lying. Why do you do it?

Lummy
11-15-2020, 03:26 PM
It's what liberals do to themselves, and if it's good enough for themselves, they figure it's good enough for you.

Lummy
11-15-2020, 03:27 PM
Parler is just another scam by the Mercers to more efficiently shear the sheep.

How is that, Einstein?

Leanne778
11-15-2020, 03:31 PM
He meant exactly what the phrase means.

Celebrate what?

Sighs.....Within minutes after U.S. President Donald Trump told the Proud Boys, a far-right group with members who espouse white supremacism, to “stand back and stand by,” on national television on Sept. 29, 2020, members of the men-only group took to fringe social media sites to celebrate what they considered a “historic (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-proud-boys-biden.html)” moment for their ideological push against leftists.

Chris
11-15-2020, 03:55 PM
Sighs.....Within minutes after U.S. President Donald Trump told the Proud Boys, a far-right group with members who espouse white supremacism, to “stand back and stand by,” on national television on Sept. 29, 2020, members of the men-only group took to fringe social media sites to celebrate what they considered a “historic (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/trump-proud-boys-biden.html)” moment for their ideological push against leftists.


The PBs don't espouse white supremacism.

Oh wow oh wow they went to social media.


BLM group, Proud Boys stand together at Salt Lake City press conference (https://kutv.com/news/local/blm-group-proud-boys-stand-together-at-salt-lake-city-press-conference)

Proud Boys Join Jewish Counter-Protesters at Holocaust Memorial Center Rally (https://thejewishnews.com/2019/08/21/proud-boys-join-jewish-counter-protesters/)

Sighs...

Calypso Jones
11-15-2020, 05:11 PM
And, if all the resident blow-up doll fascists flock over there soon (by 1/20/21) all the better.

It can be like the safe space Trinn's site was but without the implosive drama among the inmates.

Yinz guys can soak up all the $#@!head news and tabloid links all you want without the threat of intelligence, facts or objectivity shattering your snowflake egos.

:biglaugh:

suddenly you have forgotten your wailing and drama over the past four years. HOW does one do that? LOLOLOLOL subjective memory?

Captain Obvious
11-15-2020, 05:16 PM
suddenly you have forgotten your wailing and drama over the past four years. HOW does one do that? LOLOLOLOL subjective memory?

I'm sure that's what it seemed like to you. Your perception of thing is what it is.

4 years... more like 2 weeks.

Reality was too much butthurt for that place, like it is here for now so I left your safe space unimpeded.

Shame yinz all migrated out.

Tahuyaman
11-15-2020, 05:28 PM
United States presidential election, 2020 (https://conservapedia.com/United_States_presidential_election,_2020?utm_sour ce=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark)


LOL, "Both Biden and Harris are descendants of slave owners (https://conservapedia.com/Slave_Power)."

Yeah, that's relevant.
It would be if they were Republicans.

The Booman
11-15-2020, 09:41 PM
Translation: "hey Trumpers, pay attention to me! I'm lonely"