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Adelaide
05-29-2013, 02:17 PM
And she defended her call for the age of consent to be set at 13, saying: "Some teenage girls are anything but wallflowers."

Hewson also said victims should not be able to raise complaints if they had not come forward at the time.

"There is a danger that judges may feel under populist pressure to judge the past by today’s standards. That would be wrong in principle," she wrote.

The leading human rights barrister was answering questions on the Spiked (http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php/spikedplus/home/C317) website, where her first article was published earlier this month.

"Human rights must not be conditional on others’ approval for their exercise: otherwise, they are not rights at all. So no, I don’t regret my article," she wrote.

Barrister Barbara Hewson Stands by Age of Consent Article - Huffington Post UK (http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/05/29/babara-hewson-stands-by-age-of-consent_n_3352797.html)

This article got me thinking; what do you think the age of consent should be?

simpsonofpg
05-29-2013, 02:28 PM
Consent to do what?

Adelaide
05-29-2013, 02:29 PM
Consent to do what?

Have sex.

Peter1469
05-29-2013, 03:53 PM
I voted other- it should be up to the local community.

Also I think that there shouldn't necessarily be a hard and fast age of consent. Take high school for instance- real relationships shouldn't be criminalized in that sort of situation.

oceanloverOH
05-29-2013, 03:56 PM
Personally, I think the age of consent should be set at 18. This protects the girl, who before that is immature and may not make good decisions.

Micketto
05-29-2013, 04:02 PM
Personally, I think the age of consent should be set at 18. This protects the girl, who before that is immature and may not make good decisions.

Girls don't just suddenly mature when they hit 18.... trust me ;)

That said... my first "physical" girlfriend was 13 (I was 15) and we were together over 3 years.
She was actually pretty mature. More so than I.

A couple of those years I could have technically been put in jail, but even her family knew we were in love and it wasn't just a physical thing..... but it would have been worth it.

roadmaster
05-29-2013, 05:22 PM
I said 17 only because girls at that age can make decisions and do understand right from wrong but it also depends on how old the other is.

roadmaster
05-29-2013, 05:24 PM
A couple of those years I could have technically been put in jail, but even her family knew we were in love and it wasn't just a physical thing..... but it would have been worth it. Well your prison time wouldn't have been a couple of years.

Adelaide
05-29-2013, 05:38 PM
I voted 16 - by that time, parents and the education system should have taught proper sex education. Generally, I don't think teenagers are any smarter by the time they turn 18 in terms of life experience. That said, I think there should be a sort of secondary rule that until 18 the other person in the relationship can't be more than 4-5 years older.

Chris
05-29-2013, 06:00 PM
People don't reach full moral maturity till they're 25 or so, but you can't stop mother nature when she calls.

oceanloverOH
05-29-2013, 07:36 PM
I've always said my son didn't grow a brain until he was in his early 20s. I guess emotional maturity varies greatly.

Chris
05-29-2013, 08:45 PM
Mine's 26 and I'm still waiting, lol, love him but...I think that's what my parents in their 90s still say about me.

Peter1469
05-29-2013, 08:51 PM
Mississippi had an age of consent of 13, until they started with their casinos and lots of older tourists started having sex with the local 13 year olds.

Common
05-29-2013, 09:55 PM
I put 18 but I want to clarify it. It should be 18 if the male is 4 yrs or older than the female. Some states have the age of consent 15 that I know of and some guy 25 can coerce her and if she says she said Ok its cool. In those cases the girl should be at least 18 imh old fashioned opinion

Micketto
05-30-2013, 06:56 AM
Well your prison time wouldn't have been a couple of years.

A 16 yr old having sex with a 14 yr old, or 17/15, never leads to prison.

Cigar
05-30-2013, 07:03 AM
Personally, I think the age of consent should be set at 18. This protects the girl, who before that is immature and may not make good decisions.

Under those rules, then it should be 35 for Guys. :laugh:

jillian
05-30-2013, 07:10 AM
A 16 yr old having sex with a 14 yr old, or 17/15, never leads to prison.

unless the girls are gay, and the prosecutor wants to grandstand

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2013/05/lesbian-18-faces-15-years-in-prison-for-having-sex-with-14-year-old-high-school-basketball-teammate.html

Micketto
05-30-2013, 08:13 AM
unless the girls are gay, and the prosecutor wants to grandstand

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/gaysouthflorida/2013/05/lesbian-18-faces-15-years-in-prison-for-having-sex-with-14-year-old-high-school-basketball-teammate.html

English may be new to you.

That story addresses an 18 yr old with a 14 yr old.

Nothing to do with what I said.

Next...

jillian
05-30-2013, 09:44 AM
English may be new to you.

That story addresses an 18 yr old with a 14 yr old.

Nothing to do with what I said.

Next...

and if you actually read the article, you'd know that the behavior is covered by florida's romeo and juliet law.

but then again, you don't read.

dismissed

Micketto
05-30-2013, 10:13 AM
and if you actually read the article, you'd know that the behavior is covered by florida's romeo and juliet law.

but then again, you don't read.

dismissed

Uh...
The Romeo and Juliet law... that lets a judge remove names from sex offender lists.... has absolutely nothing to do with your story.

The "behavior" is not covered by anything. That law has to do with registration of sex offenders and nothing to do with prosecuting them. Maybe some lawyer friend can explain the clear explanation that everyone else has read.

It doesn't apply because the child was 14.... not 15.

Holy.... you can't even read your own links, and you accuse others of it ?! Lol...


Again... your comments have absolutely NOTHING to do with what I said.

No matter how much you try and fool yourself into it.

Talk about dismissed....

Micketto
05-31-2013, 09:04 AM
Mississippi had an age of consent of 13, until they started with their casinos and lots of older tourists started having sex with the local 13 year olds.

I can't understand why 13 ever existed in the first place. Girls are way too young at that age.
At that early age, very often sex = love.... so older men talking their way in is nothing less than immoral.

Criminal.

Dr. Who
05-31-2013, 08:31 PM
Sixteen is old enough to know what you're doing, if not why you're doing it. For some people 25 is still too young, but if you have to pick an age, let it be the same age where society assumes you have at least enough judgment to drive a car. Any older and you risk people being charged with statutory rape unfairly.

Adelaide
05-31-2013, 09:51 PM
Sixteen is old enough to know what you're doing, if not why you're doing it. For some people 25 is still too young, but if you have to pick an age, let it be the same age where society assumes you have at least enough judgment to drive a car. Any older and you risk people being charged with statutory rape unfairly.

That makes sense.

Common
06-01-2013, 05:22 AM
Sixteen is old enough to know what you're doing, if not why you're doing it. For some people 25 is still too young, but if you have to pick an age, let it be the same age where society assumes you have at least enough judgment to drive a car. Any older and you risk people being charged with statutory rape unfairly.

That is sensible.

zelmo1234
06-01-2013, 06:46 AM
Maybe you set it at 18 and for those young offenders, they just have to spend 10 minutes in a locked room with Dad, and dad can't be charged with anything!

We all conplain about teens tossing away thier lives when they get prefnant or what about when they get that life long STD, but we still want to run cover!

If Dads would step up to the plate and let Young Mr Romeo know that they have every intention of separating him from his sexual organ if he tries anything, It might help.

But the for liberals I supose that you can't choose not to have sex either? So that won't work!

After all it can't be the person that comitted the acts fault!

jillian
06-01-2013, 08:36 AM
Maybe you set it at 18 and for those young offenders, they just have to spend 10 minutes in a locked room with Dad, and dad can't be charged with anything!

We all conplain about teens tossing away thier lives when they get prefnant or what about when they get that life long STD, but we still want to run cover!

If Dads would step up to the plate and let Young Mr Romeo know that they have every intention of separating him from his sexual organ if he tries anything, It might help.

But the for liberals I supose that you can't choose not to have sex either? So that won't work!

After all it can't be the person that comitted the acts fault!

don't you think 18 is a bit unrealistic when about 10% of all 15 to 19 year old women get pregnant?

wishing is nice... but no one really wants you to be the morality police...

i always find it amusing when someone who thinks it's a sin to tell a corporation to pay a fair wage, thinks they can make everyone else's moral choices.

Mister D
06-01-2013, 08:43 AM
don't you think 18 is a bit unrealistic when about 10% of all 15 to 19 year old women get pregnant?

wishing is nice... but no one really wants you to be the morality police...

i always find it amusing when someone who thinks it's a sin to tell a corporation to pay a fair wage, thinks they can make everyone else's moral choices.

So you agree with Rand Paul regarding Title II?

jillian
06-01-2013, 08:58 AM
So you agree with Rand Paul regarding Title II?

you engage in schizophrenic associations.

do please explain what possible relationship teacher quality has to your moral superiority complex

Chris
06-01-2013, 09:22 AM
don't you think 18 is a bit unrealistic when about 10% of all 15 to 19 year old women get pregnant?

wishing is nice... but no one really wants you to be the morality police...

i always find it amusing when someone who thinks it's a sin to tell a corporation to pay a fair wage, thinks they can make everyone else's moral choices.

Your response confuses physical with mental and moral maturity.

jillian
06-01-2013, 09:30 AM
Your response confuses physical with mental and moral maturity.

i am confusing nothing.

why is it ok to legislate morality but not regulate corporations?

Chris
06-01-2013, 09:36 AM
i am confusing nothing.

why is it ok to legislate morality but not regulate corporations?

I didn't comment on you personally, jill, nice fake, I commented on your post.


In order to answer your question one would need to determine what is moral. The topic here has more to do with maturity, and my comment had to do with your post's myopic concern with only physical maturity. Moral maturity has to do with making choices in the face of future consequences. Someone morally immature in this respect would have a high time preference for immediate gratification without much concern for long term consequences.

jillian
06-01-2013, 09:41 AM
I didn't comment on you personally, jill, nice fake, I commented on your post.


In order to answer your question one would need to determine what is moral. The topic here has more to do with maturity, and my comment had to do with your post's myopic concern with only physical maturity. Moral maturity has to do with making choices in the face of future consequences. Someone morally immature in this respect would have a high time preference for immediate gratification without much concern for long term consequences.

really? your words "your response confuses"...

i am still waiting for you to answer why it is ok to legislate morality (we can call it personal behavior, if you prefer, since personal behavior doesn't imply moral judgment) but not corporations.

thank you in advance.

Chris
06-01-2013, 09:49 AM
really? your words "your response confuses"...

i am still waiting for you to answer why it is ok to legislate morality (we can call it personal behavior, if you prefer, since personal behavior doesn't imply moral judgment) but not corporations.

thank you in advance.

Uh, yes, jillian, response, not you. You cite my words but don't seem to read them.

I answered your question where it related to the topic and what I'd said. Not interested in your distractions.

Mister D
06-01-2013, 10:31 AM
you engage in schizophrenic associations.

do please explain what possible relationship teacher quality has to your moral superiority complex

I have no idea what a "schizophrenic association" is supposed to mean and I won't ask because I doubt you do either.

So you don't want anyone legislating morality, right? So you agree with Rand Paul regarding Title II?

roadmaster
06-05-2013, 09:08 PM
I have no idea what a "schizophrenic association" What why don't you join the sociopath association like me? People up north always miss out.:grin: