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rgf
12-22-2020, 10:49 AM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much batshit stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.

Crepitus
12-22-2020, 10:56 AM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much batshit stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.

He should be removed right now for sedition and plotting a coup.

Calypso Jones
12-22-2020, 11:01 AM
Can't get him out of your head. Are you afraid? You're the coup plotters and planners...oh not you...your elites..>You're nothing but expendable idiots.

oh...and just let me remind you of this....in the new package passed yesterday....illegal streaming is now a felony. Just a word to the wise as they say.

Peter1469
12-22-2020, 11:03 AM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much batshit stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.
What is a Mango Mauler?

MisterVeritis
12-22-2020, 11:07 AM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much batshit stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.
No one on this team is hunkered down in bunkers. There are at least two more fights to go, one in the courts and one in Congress.

Captain Obvious
12-22-2020, 11:07 AM
What is a Mango Mauler?

Foo foo girly drink.

DGUtley
12-22-2020, 11:07 AM
What is a Mango Mauler?

I was going to ask the same thing.

Cotton1
12-22-2020, 11:11 AM
What is a Mango Mauler?

A sex position

hanger4
12-22-2020, 11:11 AM
He should be removed right now for sedition and plotting a coup.

^^^^ Failed civics class ^^^^

Chris
12-22-2020, 11:11 AM
Hope this is the last thread on Trump. :praying:

Davis
12-22-2020, 11:11 AM
He thinks he's getting an airport named after him.

Maybe the one from Con Air?

Chris
12-22-2020, 11:15 AM
A sex position

Like the melonmounter in Cormac McCarthy’s Suttree?

Cotton1
12-22-2020, 11:20 AM
Like the melonmounter in Cormac McCarthy’s Suttree?

:biglaugh:

RichardMZhlubb
12-22-2020, 11:20 AM
No one on this team is hunkered down in bunkers. There are at least two more fights to go, one in the courts and one in Congress.
No, there aren’t. The fights are over. Trump lost. The rest is just perfunctory.

Private Pickle
12-22-2020, 11:25 AM
What is a Mango Mauler?
A semi-pro Boxer in Florida...

Docthehun
12-22-2020, 11:39 AM
He thinks he's getting an airport named after him.

Maybe the one from Con Air?

Laguardia perhaps? (The nation's worst)

MMC
12-22-2020, 11:47 AM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much batshit stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.

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MMC
12-22-2020, 11:48 AM
He should be removed right now for sedition and plotting a coup.

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MMC
12-22-2020, 11:51 AM
Hope this is the last thread on Trump. :praying:

Cmon man.....ya gotta luv the lefts conniption fits. Its comedy gold.

RichardMZhlubb
12-22-2020, 11:54 AM
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I'm reasonably confident that if Biden loses to the Republican nominee in 2024 and refuses to admit his defeat, to the point of meeting with people advocating martial law and using the military to take over voting operations in multiple states, you folks won't just laugh it off.

MMC
12-22-2020, 11:55 AM
What is a Mango Mauler?

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Davis
12-22-2020, 11:55 AM
I'm reasonably confident that if Biden loses to the Republican nominee in 2024 and refuses to admit his defeat, to the point of meeting with people advocating martial law and using the military to take over voting operations in multiple states, you folks won't just laugh it off.
That's different, like deficit spending.

DenverBrian
12-22-2020, 12:11 PM
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MMC
12-22-2020, 12:22 PM
I'm reasonably confident that if Biden loses to the Republican nominee in 2024 and refuses to admit his defeat, to the point of meeting with people advocating martial law and using the military to take over voting operations in multiple states, you folks won't just laugh it off.

Were you reasonably confident when the Democrats challenged the Electoral count in 2017. You know.....trying to overturn the peoples will. Upset Democracy? Or does that only count when Trump challenges the election.


You mean like The leftists journalists that were sharing emails and strategy on taking Trump down? Leftist drawing cartoons about killing Trump. Comedians displaying Trump's head cut off. You mean like those tolerant angelic like leftists?



John Podesta Plays Biden In 'Doomsday' Plan If Trump Is Re ... (https://www.technocracy.news/john-podesta-plays-role-in-doomsday-plan-if-trump-is-re-elected/)https://www.technocracy.news/john-podesta-plays...[/URL]
Aug 07, 2020 · John Podesta, a consummate Technocrat and former member of the Trilateral Commission, played the role of Joe Biden in a strategy exercise to determine what leftists will do if Trump is re-elected. The outcome resembles a scorched-earth policy.



Dems Reveal Their 'Doomsday' Action Plan If Trump Gets Re ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Podest+group+on+taking+Trump+down+if+re-elected&cvid=677aef516a454b50a6df2757d42cef8f&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531#)https://trendingpolitics.com/dems-simulate...
Aug 05, 2020 · In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned. The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military ...



Biden says military will escort Trump from White House if ... (https://www.bing.com/search?q=Podest+group+on+taking+Trump+down+if+re-elected&cvid=677aef516a454b50a6df2757d42cef8f&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531#)https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says...[URL="https://www.bing.com/search?q=Biden+Trump+will+be+removed+from+the+whit ehouse+by+the+military&cvid=8a6a0dfc290145b2a9e556eb74e5452a&FORM=ANAB01&PC=U531#"]
Jun 11, 2020 · Biden says military will escort Trump from White House if he loses and refuses to leave Former Vice President Joe Biden said late Wednesday that he's "absolutely convinced" the military would...





You mean like these Deviates. You mean like how we dont let you leftists laugh it off. Forget about it. Or talk shit!

Peter1469
12-22-2020, 12:35 PM
Were you reasonably confident when the Democrats challenged the Electoral count in 2017. You know.....trying to overturn the peoples will. Upset Democracy? Or does that only count when Trump challenges the election.


You mean like The leftists journalists that were sharing emails and strategy on taking Trump down? Leftist drawing cartoons about killing Trump. Comedians displaying Trump's head cut off. You mean like those tolerant angelic like leftists?



John Podesta Plays Biden In 'Doomsday' Plan If Trump Is Re ... (https://www.technocracy.news/john-podesta-plays-role-in-doomsday-plan-if-trump-is-re-elected/)

https://www.technocracy.news/john-podesta-plays...
Aug 07, 2020 · John Podesta, a consummate Technocrat and former member of the Trilateral Commission, played the role of Joe Biden in a strategy exercise to determine what leftists will do if Trump is re-elected. The outcome resembles a scorched-earth policy.



Dems Reveal Their 'Doomsday' Action Plan If Trump Gets Re ... (https://trendingpolitics.com/dems-simulate-doomsday-election-scenarios-including-west-coast-seceding-from-u-s/)

https://trendingpolitics.com/dems-simulate...
Aug 05, 2020 · In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr. Trump took office as planned. The House named Mr. Biden president; the Senate and White House stuck with Mr. Trump. At that point in the scenario, the nation stopped looking to the media for cues, and waited to see what the military ...



Biden says military will escort Trump from White House if ... (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says-military-will-escort-trump-from-white-house-if-he-loses-and-refuses-to-leave/ar-BB15lzqS)

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-says...
Jun 11, 2020 · Biden says military will escort Trump from White House if he loses and refuses to leave Former Vice President Joe Biden said late Wednesday that he's "absolutely convinced" the military would...





You mean like these Deviates. You mean like how we dont let you leftists laugh it off. Forget about it. Or talk shit!
That was part of the Transition Integrity Project.

MisterVeritis
12-22-2020, 12:37 PM
There are at least two more fights to go, one in the courts and one in Congress.

No, there aren’t. The fights are over. Trump lost. The rest is just perfunctory.
First, President Trump won the election. The corrupt Democrat Party cheated, stealing the election from the American people. If it is true that the courts and Republicans fail there is time to move on to the next phase of the battle.

RichardMZhlubb
12-22-2020, 12:38 PM
First, President Trump won the election.
Repeating fiction over and over doesn't make it true.

Davis
12-22-2020, 12:43 PM
There are at least two more fights to go, one in the courts and one in Congress.

First, President Trump won the election. The corrupt Democrat Party cheated, stealing the election from the American people. If it is true that the courts and Republicans fail there is time to move on to the next phase of the battle.

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MisterVeritis
12-22-2020, 12:53 PM
First, President Trump won the election.

Repeating fiction over and over doesn't make it true.
It is a fact. I don't expect you to recognize facts.

RichardMZhlubb
12-22-2020, 01:20 PM
First, President Trump won the election.

It is a fact. I don't expect you to recognize facts.
You look like a pathetic clown with this stuff.

Captain Obvious
12-22-2020, 01:22 PM
You look like a pathetic clown with this stuff.

I think he's breaking down in a bad way and I hope he gets help with it.

MisterVeritis
12-22-2020, 01:24 PM
First, President Trump won the election.

It is a fact. I don't expect you to recognize facts.

You look like a pathetic clown with this stuff.
What is true is true. You cheated. The corrupt Democrat Party cheated. I will fight on until there are no fights left. Then I will resist your corrupt team.

MisterVeritis
12-22-2020, 01:24 PM
I think he's breaking down in a bad way and I hope he gets help with it.
Captain Roundmouth. I like it.

Cotton1
12-22-2020, 01:26 PM
Repeating fiction over and over doesn't make it true.

Oh, the irony

rgf
12-22-2020, 01:42 PM
The Mango Mauler-this was a moniker attached to Trump on another board when in the summer of 2019 his hair job went extreme and was close to the color of an over ripe mango. I co-op it as it was precious. The man is so vane and delusional and is just adding to his mangled legacy. All of you who really think he won the election need to call the mental health hotline for some immediate and deep therapy.

RichardMZhlubb
12-22-2020, 02:46 PM
First, President Trump won the election.

It is a fact. I don't expect you to recognize facts.

What is true is true. You cheated. The corrupt Democrat Party cheated. I will fight on until there are no fights left. Then I will resist your corrupt team.
I think you guys are going to end up like the Japanese soldiers who thought they were still fighting WWII decades after the war ended.

Docthehun
12-22-2020, 02:52 PM
Captain Roundmouth. I like it.

Sounds like a type of fish. :smiley:

MisterVeritis
12-22-2020, 03:04 PM
I think you guys are going to end up like the Japanese soldiers who thought they were still fighting WWII decades after the war ended.
No. I will fight on until the fight is over. I will not stop fighting until the fight is over. And that is on inauguration day. I fight because it is the right thing to do.

Then I will begin resistance. I will resist until the Democrat Party has been defeated.

MisterVeritis
12-22-2020, 03:05 PM
Captain Roundmouth. I like it.

Sounds like a type of fish. :smiley:
A bottom feeder.

Docthehun
12-22-2020, 03:10 PM
Captain Roundmouth. I like it.

A bottom feeder.

That pretty funny. I think the Capt. will as well.

Might there be a warming in the cold war? I'd prefer it that way. We'd call it a truce. Asking for a friend.

carolina73
12-22-2020, 03:13 PM
I don't know why you thin this is the last anyone will hear from President Trump.
If he does not win the legal challenge then he is going to continue with the cause.

The GOP cannot return to the part of the neocons. We will not follow them.

RMNIXON
12-22-2020, 03:16 PM
What will really irritate the Left is how confident and content Trump will be when he leaves Office.

Unlike every single Democrat who has been running (or winning) President for who knows how long, politics is not his life. He never considered himself entitled to be President like Al Gore and Hillary. Never tried and failed as many times as Joe Biden.


It is the Sad people in this Forum who are obsessed with Trump sorrow and some kind of bizarre tragic ending that won't happen. I suggest you enamine your own self first. What makes this level of personal hate so important to your life?

gamewell45
12-22-2020, 03:38 PM
What will really irritate the Left is how confident and content Trump will be when he leaves Office.

Unlike every single Democrat who has been running (or winning) President for who knows how long, politics is not his life. He never considered himself entitled to be President like Al Gore and Hillary. Never tried and failed as many times as Joe Biden.


It is the Sad people in this Forum who are obsessed with Trump sorrow and some kind of bizarre tragic ending that won't happen. I suggest you enamine your own self first. What makes this level of personal hate so important to your life?

I can only speak for myself; I don't hate the man, however I do intensely dislike him. Mainly because he is a moral blank, a congenital liar and an incompetent president. He doesn't belong as president IMO; the fact that he ran on a lark and actually won is irrelevant; once he became president, he had an obligation to the people of this country to at least conduct himself in a professional and dignified manner for the position he holds. He failed to do that and in addition failed to come through with some major campaign promises as well.

Everything with this president is a conspiracy; I think the American people are sick and tired of hearing that from him, including some of his republican members of both Houses of Congress.

Americans for the most part are a forgiving people; If he ever admitted that he made mistakes in judgement or for at least some of the other crap he pulled, I'm sure many of his detractors might forgive him in the long run, however his overblown ego (just one of his character flaws) won't allow him to go that far.

The fact that he refused to concede after a vast majority of the courts tossed lawsuits related to the conduct of the election is telling and his legacy is most likely damaged beyond repair. Only time will tell and this doesn't include what the NYSD courts may have in mind for him.

EvilCat Breath
12-22-2020, 03:40 PM
Trump has 75 million voters, Biden might have half that in legitimate votes. Trump can cause chicom Biden a new misery every day. After all didn't communist democrats show us how?

RichardMZhlubb
12-22-2020, 04:01 PM
Trump has 75 million voters, Biden might have half that in legitimate votes. Trump can cause chicom Biden a new misery every day. After all didn't communist democrats show us how?

Once Trump is out of office, he becomes largely irrelevant to Biden. Trump’s influence will extend only as far as Republicans in Congress are willing to continue to treat him as the de facto leader of the party. But even if Republicans retain the majority in the Senate, I don’t think McConnell has any interest in deferring to Trump. And there are numerous members of the Republican Senate caucus (Romney, Sasse, Murkowski, etc.) who are clearly ready to get rid of Trump.

MMC
12-22-2020, 04:15 PM
Republicans should not show up for a Biden inauguration. All Repub House members should find something more important to do. Let the left fully connipt about it.

The Booman
12-22-2020, 04:18 PM
Last days? Hardly. Every mistake Biden makes will be blames on Trump. So, in a sense Trump isn't going anywhere.

DenverBrian
12-22-2020, 08:19 PM
Trump has 75 million voters, Biden might have half that in legitimate votes.You might be a Martian. There might be a Playboy mansion at the center of the earth. <shrugs>

Tahuyaman
12-22-2020, 09:44 PM
He should be removed right now for sedition and plotting a coup.
Lol. Now all of a sudden you are concerned about a coup.

Tahuyaman
12-22-2020, 09:46 PM
Last days? Hardly. Every mistake Biden makes will be blames on Trump. So, in a sense Trump isn't going anywhere.
TDS isn’t going away any time soon. In fact it’s going to get worse.

Abby08
12-22-2020, 09:50 PM
Once Trump is out of office, he becomes largely irrelevant to Biden. Trump’s influence will extend only as far as Republicans in Congress are willing to continue to treat him as the de facto leader of the party. But even if Republicans retain the majority in the Senate, I don’t think McConnell has any interest in deferring to Trump. And there are numerous members of the Republican Senate caucus (Romney, Sasse, Murkowski, etc.) who are clearly ready to get rid of Trump.


Thats nice. Biden is now and, will remain irrelevant to all real Americans.....for as long as he's in office.....if he makes it there.

Abby08
12-22-2020, 09:51 PM
You might be a Martian. There might be a Playboy mansion at the center of the earth. <shrugs>


People might care, what you say.

Crepitus
12-22-2020, 11:49 PM
^^^^ Failed civics class ^^^^

Nope.

hanger4
12-23-2020, 05:21 AM
Nope.

Uses words he doesn't understand the meaning of.

carolina73
12-23-2020, 08:44 AM
I can only speak for myself; I don't hate the man, however I do intensely dislike him. Mainly because he is a moral blank, a congenital liar and an incompetent president. He doesn't belong as president IMO; the fact that he ran on a lark and actually won is irrelevant; once he became president, he had an obligation to the people of this country to at least conduct himself in a professional and dignified manner for the position he holds. He failed to do that and in addition failed to come through with some major campaign promises as well.

Everything with this president is a conspiracy; I think the American people are sick and tired of hearing that from him, including some of his republican members of both Houses of Congress.

Americans for the most part are a forgiving people; If he ever admitted that he made mistakes in judgement or for at least some of the other crap he pulled, I'm sure many of his detractors might forgive him in the long run, however his overblown ego (just one of his character flaws) won't allow him to go that far.

The fact that he refused to concede after a vast majority of the courts tossed lawsuits related to the conduct of the election is telling and his legacy is most likely damaged beyond repair. Only time will tell and this doesn't include what the NYSD courts may have in mind for him.

And Biden is not a liar?
Obama was not a liar?
Hillary was not a liar?
Boehner, Ryan, McConell...are not and were not liars?
Pelosi, Reid, Clayburn...are not and were not liars?

The cries from the left that Trump is something different regarding the truth are laughable at best.

Face it. You are in a Facebook, Twitter club of hate because you play like a little girl in the playground. I don't like Trump. He has orange hair and is a fatso. If you like him then you can't hang around with us.

BTW. If you do not like what I said then you are officially in the club.

You should try arguing on the issues when you grow up.

gamewell45
12-23-2020, 09:04 AM
And Biden is not a liar?
Obama was not a liar?
Hillary was not a liar?
Boehner, Ryan, McConell...are not and were not liars?
Pelosi, Reid, Clayburn...are not and were not liars?

The cries from the left that Trump is something different regarding the truth are laughable at best.

Face it. You are in a Facebook, Twitter club of hate because you play like a little girl in the playground. I don't like Trump. He has orange hair and is a fatso. If you like him then you can't hang around with us.

BTW. If you do not like what I said then you are officially in the club.

You should try arguing on the issues when you grow up.
So, because you disagree with my viewpoint, you make it personal. Your viewpoint is duly noted.

RichardMZhlubb
12-23-2020, 09:59 AM
Thats nice. Biden is now and, will remain irrelevant to all real Americans.....for as long as he's in office.....if he makes it there.
This condescending bullshlt is pathetic. Biden supporters are real Americans whether you choose to pretend otherwise or not. And there are more of them than there are of you.

EvilCat Breath
12-24-2020, 12:20 PM
Once Trump is out of office, he becomes largely irrelevant to Biden. Trump’s influence will extend only as far as Republicans in Congress are willing to continue to treat him as the de facto leader of the party. But even if Republicans retain the majority in the Senate, I don’t think McConnell has any interest in deferring to Trump. And there are numerous members of the Republican Senate caucus (Romney, Sasse, Murkowski, etc.) who are clearly ready to get rid of Trump.

If you are considering Trump as merely a political operative, you are under a complete misconception.

RichardMZhlubb
12-24-2020, 12:42 PM
If you are considering Trump as merely a political operative, you are under a complete misconception.
Once out of office, Trump will be a huge pain in the ass for incumbent Republicans who will be trying to move on, but he’ll be largely irrelevant to Democrats.

MisterVeritis
12-24-2020, 12:57 PM
This condescending bullshlt is pathetic. Biden supporters are real Americans whether you choose to pretend otherwise or not. And there are more of them than there are of you.
Real Americans would not have done this to America.

The Booman
12-24-2020, 06:25 PM
What will they talk about when Trump is gone?It certainly won't be Biden. They have shown us repeatedly that they are spineless when it comes to discussing clubfoot.

Tahuyaman
12-24-2020, 07:14 PM
Once out of office, Trump will be a huge pain in the ass for incumbent Republicans who will be trying to move on, but he’ll be largely irrelevant to Democrats.
Democrats will be bringing up Trump constantly for the foreseeable future. They can’t forget him that quickly. Everyone else will move on no problem.

MisterVeritis
12-24-2020, 07:27 PM
Democrats will be bringing up Trump constantly for the foreseeable future. They can’t forget him that quickly. Everyone rise will move on no problem.
The fights are not over. We can and should win.

Tahuyaman
12-24-2020, 07:30 PM
Well, most of the rest will move on.

MisterVeritis
12-24-2020, 07:34 PM
Well, most of the rest will move on.
LOL. Not everyone surrenders so easily as you did.

Tahuyaman
12-24-2020, 07:48 PM
LOL. Not everyone surrenders so easily as you did.
Most people are like me and live in the real world.

MisterVeritis
12-24-2020, 07:56 PM
Most people are like me and live in the real world.
It is okay. Not everyone can fight on because it is the right fight to be in. Some surrender because they are tired, others because they thing it doesn't matter. Some surrender for convenience.

Sometimes you must fight even if you are not sure you can win. Chamberlain at Little Round Top could have surrendered. He fought on.

I will continue to support this fight right up until we win or the fight is over.

Tahuyaman
12-24-2020, 07:59 PM
IT’S OVER! IT’S EFFING OVER! For crying out loud. Reasonably intelligent people know this.

MisterVeritis
12-24-2020, 08:05 PM
IT’S OVER! IT’S EFFING OVER! For crying out loud. Reasonably intelligent people know this.
I am sorry you turned out to be a summer soldier and sunshine patriot.

May you wear your chains lightly.

Tahuyaman
12-24-2020, 08:08 PM
I am sorry you turned out to be a summer soldier and sunshine patriot.

May you wear your chains lightly.
Why do you persist in making yourself look like a fool). You’re not really that foolish.

Failing to acknowledge that this is over and done with is idiotic.

montana
12-24-2020, 08:55 PM
Why do you persist in making yourself look like a fool). You’re not really that foolish.

Failing to acknowledge that this is over and done with is idiotic. You have no desire to do whats needed to save this republic.Stay in the basement it may be safer there.

RichardMZhlubb
12-24-2020, 09:22 PM
Real Americans would not have done this to America.
By "this," are you referring to replacing the most corrupt idiot ever elected president with a competent adult? Thank goodness for the "real Americans" who did that and saved this country from four more years of this shlt.

MisterVeritis
12-24-2020, 10:15 PM
Why do you persist in making yourself look like a fool). You’re not really that foolish.

Failing to acknowledge that this is over and done with is idiotic.
I am in the right fight for the right reasons. It is not over. It is not done.

MisterVeritis
12-24-2020, 10:16 PM
By "this," are you referring to replacing the most corrupt idiot ever elected president with a competent adult? Thank goodness for the "real Americans" who did that and saved this country from four more years of this shlt.
By this I mean cheating to install a socialist regime through guile and subterfuge.

It is worth fighting over.

Tahuyaman
12-24-2020, 10:19 PM
I am in the right fight for the right reasons. It is not over. It is not done.
You’re embarrassing yourself.

The Booman
12-24-2020, 11:10 PM
If these are Trump's last days he is spending them fighting for the very people who supposedly hate him. Not a bad way to go out. Meanwhile where is Joe?

chaidragonfire
12-24-2020, 11:11 PM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much batshit stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.

Poor widdle snowflake!
33862

Sounds like you're going to miss the big orange bad man!
Who are you going to harass, torment, and make fun of?
Who are you going to blame for all of the problems you have made for yourself?
Who are you going to make up lies about and blame for all of society's woes?
WHO are you going to blame your whole sad, miserable life on when Trump is gone???

The Booman
12-24-2020, 11:16 PM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much batshit stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.
Yeah, we get it veronica. You don't want to discuss the disaster you lemmings voted for. You don't dare criticize the democrat party for making us suffer for months, only to give us "crumbs". You and the rest are the reason we have the problems we have now. Thank you for shitting on the greatest country that ever existed.

Peter1469
12-25-2020, 02:15 AM
By "this," are you referring to replacing the most corrupt idiot ever elected president with a competent adult? Thank goodness for the "real Americans" who did that and saved this country from four more years of this shlt.

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-cnobw6cKWIo%2FV3coX5UEnwI%2FAAAAAAAAdo0%2Fu5PZBt7g Ykkr4P7rXxnmYdDOo6vxoH2lACLcB%2Fs1600%2FBarack_Oba ma_rent%252Bfree.jpg&f=1&nofb=1

PJL
12-25-2020, 02:47 AM
If these are Trump's last days he is spending them fighting for the very people who supposedly hate him. Not a bad way to go out. Meanwhile where is Joe?......from a golf-course in Florida ! .....(lol)

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 02:54 AM
......from a golf-course in Florida ! .....(lol)

What difference would it make where he was? Honestly, I hope he was at the golf course.

I know liberals seem to harbor an aversion to golf courses..(omg..it just hit me why lol) but anyone that can do what he did for this country , more power to him, "mate"..

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 02:58 AM
By "this," are you referring to replacing the most corrupt idiot ever elected president with a competent adult? Thank goodness for the "real Americans" who did that and saved this country from four more years of this shlt.

Four more years of what shit?

Watching libs scream at the sky?

Putting up with BLM punks?

The Booman
12-25-2020, 03:02 AM
By "this," are you referring to replacing the most corrupt idiot ever elected president with a competent adult? Thank goodness for the "real Americans" who did that and saved this country from four more years of this shlt.

You girls have been saying the same thing for months but never get around to telling us what it is being replaced with. Do you have any specifics or are just going to be a coward for the next four years?

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 03:02 AM
Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.

I didnt know you were the president..

Question: do liberals have to parrot other liberals or if you had the horsepower to think for yourself would it even be allowed ?

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 03:06 AM
Repeating fiction over and over doesn't make it true.

Thats all you ever do. Even worse, its parroted "fiction". How special, Ed. Lol at you.

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 03:15 AM
You girls have been saying the same thing for months but never get around to telling us what it is being replaced with. Do you have any specifics or are just going to be a coward for the next four years?

Interesting is that they havent really said anything Biden will do pertaining to what is beneficial to the country.

So far Bidens "plans"

#1. Nibble on that little deranged moron "Greta Thunbergs ears.

#2. Put 13% of the population ahead of the other 87%.

#3. Promote racism

#4. Class warfare

#5. Hmmm. Anything else?

Answer is "No"

Really?

Yes, really

Oh no ...

Really?

Yes

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 03:17 AM
Interesting is that they havent really said anything Biden will do pertaining to what is beneficial to the country.

So far Bidens "plans"

#1. Nibble on that little deranged moron "Greta Thunbergs ears.

#2. Put 13% of the population ahead of the other 87%.

#3. Promote racism

#4. Class warfare

#5. Hmmm. Anything else?

Answer is "No"

Really?

Yes, really

Oh no ...

Really?

Yes

At least I am able to parrot my own self.

How?

Because my thoughts come from me.

Ahhh...

The Booman
12-25-2020, 03:35 AM
Apparently Trump broke the country. The left cheer Biden's win and yet can't tell us how Biden will fix things.

Peter1469
12-25-2020, 07:34 AM
Apparently Trump broke the country. The left cheer Biden's win and yet can't tell us how Biden will fix things.
He will "fix" it by returning the US to the path of cultural globalism and and dampening down the economic power of the US (Obama's new normal).

Docthehun
12-25-2020, 08:39 AM
He will "fix" it by returning the US to the path of cultural globalism and and dampening down the economic power of the US (Obama's new normal).

(pssst...every business owner I know was just fine before Trump. Slow steady growth was just fine. It was hard enough to find and keep sufficient staff. Taxes were passed on as a "cost of doing business"...like those tariffs on Chinese goods which we pay, they give that dough to the US Govt., which in turn...gives it to the farmers. Damn, that almost sounds like, oh my God...Socialism!)

Oh, by the way, Merry Christmas Pete! Hope it's a stellar day!

Peter1469
12-25-2020, 08:43 AM
(pssst...every business owner I know was just fine before Trump. Slow steady growth was just fine. It was hard enough to find and keep sufficient staff. Taxes were passed on as a "cost of doing business"...like those tariffs on Chinese goods which we pay, they give that dough to the US Govt., which in turn...gives it to the farmers. Damn, that almost sounds like, oh my God...Socialism!)
Obama's recovery was the most flaccid recovery in the US since WWII.

7 Facts That Show Obama’s Economic Recovery Has Been AWFUL (https://www.dailywire.com/news/7-facts-show-obamas-economic-recovery-has-been-aaron-bandler)
Team Obama: Sorry, America, the ‘new normal’ may be here to stay (https://www.aei.org/economics/team-obama-sorry-america-the-new-normal-may-be-here-to-stay/) the 2013 Obama budget declared, “In the 21st Century, real GDP growth in the United States is likely to be permanently slower than it was in earlier eras . . . .”

rgf
12-25-2020, 08:46 AM
If Biden does return the governance of the country to something resembling "normal" where the President acts in the best interests of the country it will be a vast improvement over the past 4 years where everything was about the Mango Mauler and only about him. All of you Trump supporters please show me one instance when he tried to bring the country together. Not once did this piece of shit act like he was President of the whole country and not the king of his radical supporters that worshipped at his fat ass. You have all been taken for suckers. Despicable. Trump will be pictured between Hoover and Buchannan as the worse Presidents in American history.

Docthehun
12-25-2020, 08:48 AM
Obama's recovery was the most flaccid recovery in the US since WWII.

7 Facts That Show Obama’s Economic Recovery Has Been AWFUL (https://www.dailywire.com/news/7-facts-show-obamas-economic-recovery-has-been-aaron-bandler)


Team Obama: Sorry, America, the ‘new normal’ may be here to stay (https://www.aei.org/economics/team-obama-sorry-america-the-new-normal-may-be-here-to-stay/)

the 2013 Obama budget declared, “In the 21st Century, real GDP growth in the United States is likely to be permanently slower than it was in earlier eras . . . .”





Real GDP

https://www.multpl.com/us-real-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-quarter

Docthehun
12-25-2020, 08:50 AM
and then there's this...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/how-trump-made-2020-the-year-of-disinformation-223602486.html

hanger4
12-25-2020, 08:59 AM
If Biden does return the governance of the country to something resembling "normal" where the President acts in the best interests of the country it will be a vast improvement over the past 4 years where everything was about the Mango Mauler and only about him. All of you Trump supporters please show me one instance when he tried to bring the country together. Not once did this piece of shit act like he was President of the whole country and not the king of his radical supporters that worshipped at his fat ass. You have all been taken for suckers. Despicable. Trump will be pictured between Hoover and Buchannan as the worse Presidents in American history.

The left sure as hell didn't act like he was president therefore there was no coming together. Look in the mirror rgf.

Peter1469
12-25-2020, 10:33 AM
He won't be doing that. He will take the US back onto the path of cultural globalism. He doesn't give a shit about what is best for the United States.


If Biden does return the governance of the country to something resembling "normal" where the President acts in the best interests of the country it will be a vast improvement over the past 4 years where everything was about the Mango Mauler and only about him. All of you Trump supporters please show me one instance when he tried to bring the country together. Not once did this piece of shit act like he was President of the whole country and not the king of his radical supporters that worshipped at his fat ass. You have all been taken for suckers. Despicable. Trump will be pictured between Hoover and Buchannan as the worse Presidents in American history.

Peter1469
12-25-2020, 10:34 AM
Real GDP

https://www.multpl.com/us-real-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-quarter
GDP is one of many economic measures.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 10:54 AM
You have no desire to do whats needed to save this republic.Stay in the basement it may be safer there.
You guys who can’t accept the election results are looking as ridiculous as the left did after 2016.

All you’re doing is giving them a pass for their conduct. Now they can point to your conduct and theirs is forgotten.

At some point rational people need to dismiss the good-balls an both sides. I’m already there.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 10:58 AM
The left sure as hell didn't act like he was president therefore there was no coming together. Look in the mirror rgf.
Someone needs to promote a rational response. That rational response isn’t going to come from the left, so it needs to start on the right.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 11:08 AM
By "this," are you referring to replacing the most corrupt idiot ever elected president with a competent adult? Thank goodness for the "real Americans" who did that and saved this country from four more years of this shlt.
It was thought that LBJ was one of the most corrupt president’s in history which is true, but he was left in the dust by Obama.

Obama weaponized virtually every agency of government for partisan purposes. The Obama administration was absolutely the most corrupt in US history. All Trump did was expose this corruption.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 11:23 AM
Real GDP

https://www.multpl.com/us-real-gdp-growth-rate/table/by-quarter
Obama was the only two term president in history who never achieved a year where GDP hit 3%.

Docthehun
12-25-2020, 02:19 PM
Obama was the only two term president in history who never achieved a year where GDP hit 3%.

On the other hand, check where Obama started. While it's true he didn't hit 3% (2.88% 2015), Trump's best was 2017 (3.18%); not that much better than what he inherited, but you already knew that.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 02:30 PM
You’re embarrassing yourself.
I am not the one who surrendered. You did. The fight is not over. Do you only fight battles you know you will win? I continue to fight because it is the right thing to do. I don't expect you to understand.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 02:30 PM
On the other hand, check where Obama started. While it's true he didn't hit 3% (2.88% 2015), Trump's best was 2017 (3.18%); not that much better than what he inherited, but you already knew that.Trump inherited the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. By every measure the US economy was sputtering.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 02:36 PM
I am not the one who surrendered. You did. The fight is not over. Do you only fight battles you know you will win? I continue to fight because it is the right thing to do. I don't expect you to understand.
Most people would be embarrassed by losing touch with reality, but not you.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 02:39 PM
You guys who can’t accept the election results are looking as ridiculous as the left did after 2016.

All you’re doing is giving them a pass for their conduct. Now they can point to your conduct and theirs is forgotten.

At some point rational people need to dismiss the good-balls an both sides. I’m already there.
We don't have election results. We have cheating/fraud results. And you just hop right over on your belly, legs parted, ready to be taken.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 02:40 PM
I am not the one who surrendered. You did. The fight is not over. Do you only fight battles you know you will win? I continue to fight because it is the right thing to do. I don't expect you to understand.

Most people would be embarrassed by losing touch with reality, but not you.
I don't think as surrender monkeys do. I will leave that to you.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 02:42 PM
I am not the one who surrendered. You did. The fight is not over. Do you only fight battles you know you will win? I continue to fight because it is the right thing to do. I don't expect you to understand.

I don't think as surrender monkeys do. I will leave that to you.

You’re a right wing version of Richard.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 02:44 PM
You’re a right wing version of Richard.
You are worthless in a fight.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 02:48 PM
You are worthless in a fight.

You’re entitled to your opinions.


All you are doing is complaining and looking foolish.

Peter1469
12-25-2020, 02:48 PM
On the other hand, check where Obama started. While it's true he didn't hit 3% (2.88% 2015), Trump's best was 2017 (3.18%); not that much better than what he inherited, but you already knew that.
Again, GDP is but one of many economic indicators. And by all accounts, Obama's recovery was the most flaccid in recent US history. Trump's economy out performed it massively. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-s-economy-really-was-better-than-obama-s/ar-BB1axyso)


Joe Biden has argued (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-08/biden-says-trump-squandered-economic-expansion-begun-with-obama?sref=zlXcQw6H) that President Donald Trump didn’t so much build a strong economy as inherit one. It’s good line — but it ignores the successes, at least before the pandemic, of Trump’s unconventional policy (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-02-21/the-trump-effect-on-the-economy-is-undeniable?sref=zlXcQw6H). If Biden is elected president, he should continue Trump’s economic approach rather than returning to Barack Obama’s.

Between December 2009 and December 2016, the unemployment rate dropped 5.2 percentage points, from 9.9% to 4.7%. By December 2019, it had fallen another 1.2 percentage points, to 3.5%. A cursory look at those numbers might lead you to believe that the improvement under Trump was at best a continuation of a trend that began nearly a decade earlier.

It’s necessary to place those numbers in context. By 2016, officials in the Treasury Department and at the Federal Reserve had concluded that the economy was at full employment (https://www.federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/files/fomcprojtabl20161214.pdf) and that further improvement in the labor market was unlikely. This was in line with the Congressional Budget Office’s guidance (https://www.cbo.gov/publication/52393) that further declines in the unemployment rate would push the economy beyond its sustainable capacity.

Once in office, Trump ignored this consensus. He implemented a program of tax cuts, spending increases and unprecedented pressure on the Fed to cut interest rates to zero and keep them there. Trump’s goal of 3% growth was derided as delusional (https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-3-gdp-growth-plan-makes-no-sense-2017-2), while a bipartisan chorus of commentators declared his policies reckless (https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/09/22/gop-tax-cut-proposal-is-irresponsible-and-hardly-conservative/) and irresponsible (http://larrysummers.com/2017/12/10/sugar-high-is-right-diagnosis-tax-cuts-are-the-wrong-prescription/).

They were anything but. Not only did the unemployment rate continue to fall, but the percentage of Americans aged 25 to 54 either employed or looking for a job saw its first sustained rise (https://www.wsj.com/articles/fueled-by-strong-economy-u-s-labor-force-defies-projected-declines-11553338801) since the late 1980s. This inflection point changed the character of the labor market (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/05/business/economy/recruiting-labor-force.html).

In 2016, real median household income was $62,898, just $257 above its level in 1999. Over the next three years it grew almost $6,000, to $68,703. That’s perhaps why, despite the pandemic, 56% (https://news.gallup.com/opinion/gallup/321650/gallup-election-2020-coverage.aspx) of U.S. voters polled last month said their families were better off today than they were four years ago.

The key to that number is the breadth of Trump’s expansionary agenda. Republican presidents have typically focused on tax cuts, particularly for businesses, with the idea that they will encourage an increase in investment and wages. Democrats have tended to seek spending increases, often with the hope that they will stimulate the overall economy and increase job growth. Presidents of both parties have traditionally left interest-rate policy to the Fed.


Trump broke the mold by aggressively battling on all three fronts. He also sought to increase jobs in manufacturing and agriculture by pursuing a series of trade wars. (Most economists, from across the ideological spectrum, think this policy backfired (https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-19/trump-s-tax-cuts-were-working-until-he-started-his-trade-war?sref=EP6bV7CS).) Nonetheless, if one had to choose between Trump’s three good policies plus trade wars, or the more modest economic policies of his predecessors, the easy choice is Trump.

I started a thread about fiscal cons being dead- the bolded is why.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 02:53 PM
You’re entitled to your opinions.
All you are doing is complaining and looking foolish.
I am also supporting the various efforts that continue in court, in the State legislatures and Congress.

I don't expect you to understand someone who will continue to fight beyond the first disappointment. It is not in your nature.

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 03:14 PM
This condescending bullshlt is pathetic. Biden supporters are real Americans whether you choose to pretend otherwise or not. And there are more of them than there are of you.
You keep on thinking that, jr

RichardMZhlubb
12-25-2020, 04:10 PM
Again, GDP is but one of many economic indicators. And by all accounts, Obama's recovery was the most flaccid in recent US history. Trump's economy out performed it massively. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-s-economy-really-was-better-than-obama-s/ar-BB1axyso)



I started a thread about fiscal cons being dead- the bolded is why.
Donald Trump is going to leave the White House with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office. That hasn’t happened since Hoover.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 04:32 PM
Donald Trump is going to leave the White House with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office. That hasn’t happened since Hoover.
That is entirely the fault of Democrat governors. Of course, you know that but are dishonest.

Peter1469
12-25-2020, 04:43 PM
Donald Trump is going to leave the White House with fewer Americans employed than on the day he took office. That hasn’t happened since Hoover.
Lockdowns.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 05:25 PM
I am also supporting the various efforts that continue in court, in the State legislatures and Congress.

I don't expect you to understand someone who will continue to fight beyond the first disappointment. It is not in your nature.
Yes. Banging your head on a concrete wall is something most sane people don’t understand.

RichardMZhlubb
12-25-2020, 05:29 PM
It really is amazing how you guys give Trump credit for things totally out of his control, but pretend that it’s everyone else’s fault when things go poorly.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 05:31 PM
I don't expect you to understand someone who will continue to fight beyond the first disappointment. It is not in your nature.

Yes. Banging your head on a concrete wall is something most sane people don’t understand.
All surrender monkeys excuse themselves just as you do.

We don't stop fighting for the right just because it gets hard. You folded your tent, excusing yourself with the myth that you have figured it all out. They key is that you folded.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 05:32 PM
It really is amazing how you guys give Trump credit for things totally out of his control, but pretend that it’s everyone else’s fault when things go poorly.
All dishonest people excuse their dishonesty in the same way you do.

RichardMZhlubb
12-25-2020, 05:41 PM
All dishonest people excuse their dishonesty in the same way you do.
Listen, you can live in your Trump fantasy world for as long as you like, but it won't change the fact that he's the worst president in modern American history, and arguably one of the two or three worst ever.

MisterVeritis
12-25-2020, 05:44 PM
Listen, you can live in your Trump fantasy world for as long as you like, but it won't change the fact that he's the worst president in modern American history, and arguably one of the two or three worst ever.
Not only are you dishonest in small things, but in large things as well. President Trump is one of the best presidents this nation has had.

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 05:46 PM
Not only are you dishonest in small things, but in large things as well. President Trump is one of the best presidents this nation has had.

Maybe the best

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 05:47 PM
It really is amazing how you guys give Trump credit for things totally out of his control, but pretend that it’s everyone else’s fault when things go poorly.
What kind of things? The kind of things you credited to Obama?

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 05:48 PM
Listen, you can live in your Trump fantasy world for as long as you like, but it won't change the fact that he's the worst president in modern American history, and arguably one of the two or three worst ever.

Is that a fact? How so? Flip thru your parrot folders and then tell me how. I'm glad you aren't a republican. You'd be nothing but in our way and another mouth to feed.

Ooops I'm sorry we are already feeding you , Einstein

Cotton1
12-25-2020, 05:56 PM
What kind of things? The kind of things you credited to Obama?
Yes..like when they got Bin Laden? Libs got so horny when
That happened you'd have thought Obama himself went in and stabbed him with a fork.

Oddly enough they were bragging about taking out yet worshipping Islam and Muslims with all their might? Peace on earth lib style lol?

I don't even think there was a "Bin Laden".

Maybe a guy from Iowa that got the hell knocked out of him by his wife or gf so they called him "Ben Hurtin".

Bin laden lmao. Uh huh..hid in a cave from 500,000 people looking for him . Every intelligence agency looking for him. A $25 million bounty on his head but yet could not be found for 10 years ?

The cave. Oh yea. What's not to believe ?

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 06:19 PM
Listen, you can live in your Trump fantasy world for as long as you like, but it won't change the fact that he's the worst president in modern American history, and arguably one of the two or three worst ever.
The worst president in US history is Obama. The man was a failure in every area. There’s no valid argument to the contrary.

The only thing which is arguable is what was his least failure.

Docthehun
12-25-2020, 06:51 PM
Trump inherited the slowest recovery since the Great Depression. By every measure the US economy was sputtering.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYoNL4g5Vg

carolina73
12-25-2020, 06:58 PM
On the other hand, check where Obama started. While it's true he didn't hit 3% (2.88% 2015), Trump's best was 2017 (3.18%); not that much better than what he inherited, but you already knew that.

Obama avg GDP increase 0.66375 trillion for 8 years Trump avg GDP increase 0.90667 trillion for 3 years

Trump was 37% higher GDP growth despite the fact that we had hit the stone wall in the available labor force. He did that with higher wage jobs.

Cletus
12-25-2020, 07:06 PM
This condescending bullshlt is pathetic. Biden supporters are real Americans whether you choose to pretend otherwise or not. And there are more of them than there are of you.

Maybe, but collectively, they are not worth a bucket of warm spit. They may be Americans by an accident of birth, but they don't support or believe in the ideals and principles upon which this country was founded. "Real Americans" do.

Tahuyaman
12-25-2020, 07:06 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjYoNL4g5Vg
Brilliant!

Docthehun
12-25-2020, 07:11 PM
Bush left Obama a mess. Obama did not leave Trump a mess. Depending on how the 4th quarter plays out, these past four years may be a wash. Read the chart by year. Remember, Obama doesn't get the reigns until 2009. Once in a while, you ought to do a little research and post the links.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

hanger4
12-25-2020, 07:27 PM
Bush left Obama a mess. Obama did not leave Trump a mess. Depending on how the 4th quarter plays out, these past four years may be a wash. Read the chart by year. Remember, Obama doesn't get the reigns until 2009. Once in a while, you ought to do a little research and post the links.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/

*Bush left Obama a mess.*

What are you talking about ??

The Booman
12-25-2020, 07:42 PM
Bush left Obama a mess. Obama did not leave Trump a mess. Depending on how the 4th quarter plays out, these past four years may be a wash. Read the chart by year. Remember, Obama doesn't get the reigns until 2009. Once in a while, you ought to do a little research and post the links.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/188165/annual-gdp-growth-of-the-united-states-since-1990/


Of course he left Trump a mess. Obamacare made healthcare worse, We were now in more countries in the middle east. ISIS was rampaging. The racial divide was worse, BLM was born, the economy was slower than Joe Biden. Every president inherits problems and the more these problems are left to fester the worse the become.

RichardMZhlubb
12-26-2020, 10:02 AM
Not only are you dishonest in small things, but in large things as well. President Trump is one of the best presidents this nation has had.

You guys are just hilarious.

RichardMZhlubb
12-26-2020, 10:03 AM
*Bush left Obama a mess.*

What are you talking about ??
Are you too young to remember that the economy was in compete freefall in January 2009?

hanger4
12-26-2020, 11:01 AM
Are you too young to remember that the economy was in compete freefall in January 2009?

I'm old enough to know the recession wasn't Bush's fault any more than it was Clinton's or Congress or any one individual or cause.

RichardMZhlubb
12-26-2020, 12:53 PM
I'm old enough to know the recession wasn't Bush's fault any more than it was Clinton's or Congress or any one individual or cause.

And yet there are people in this very thread blaming Obama for the slowness of the economy he inherited. It’s very clear that the mentality of Trump supporters is that everything negative that happened between 2008-2017 is Obama’s fault, and nothing bad that happened since 2017 is Trump’s fault.

hanger4
12-26-2020, 01:08 PM
And yet there are people in this very thread blaming Obama for the slowness of the economy he inherited. It’s very clear that the mentality of Trump supporters is that everything negative that happened between 2008-2017 is Obama’s fault, and nothing bad that happened since 2017 is Trump’s fault.

And yet the housing bubble burst wasn't Bush's fault as Docthehun and you implied.

gamewell45
12-26-2020, 01:15 PM
Of course he left Trump a mess. Obamacare made healthcare worse, We were now in more countries in the middle east. ISIS was rampaging. The racial divide was worse, BLM was born, the economy was slower than Joe Biden. Every president inherits problems and the more these problems are left to fester the worse the become.
You didn't even read the link @Docthehun (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1986) posted did you?

Are you aware that when Obama was sworn in he had an economy that was in shambles and it took years to repair the damage? Slowly but surely he did.

That being said, with the inception of Obamacare, despite downplaying by insurance company lobbyists, allowed people who, before were unable to obtain coverage, were now able to purchase insurance plans or if they were under 26, stay on their parents plans.

ISIS was rampaging before Obama became president, to this day it has not been eradicated.

the Boogaloo movement was founded in 2019; the proud boy's group was founded in 2016 and both flourished under the Trump administration.

The swamp was never drained as promised.

You are right that every president inherits problems and issues when they take office. Biden hasn't been sworn in, yet he is at least attempting to come up with solutions for some things where his predecessor is doing everything within his power to assure the switchover is as painful to the American people as possible.

RichardMZhlubb
12-26-2020, 01:48 PM
And yet the housing bubble burst wasn't Bush's fault as Docthehun and you implied.
I think you’re reading more into those statements than was there. We can debate who was really at fault for the 2008 recession, but that doesn’t change the fact that Bush handed over a terrible economy to Obama. The same is going to be true when Biden inherits the current economy from Trump.

Docthehun
12-26-2020, 02:29 PM
*Bush left Obama a mess.*

What are you talking about ??

No offense, but most of the time, you just want to argue with me for the sake of arguing. I lack sufficient time on earth for that. Sorry.

hanger4
12-26-2020, 03:13 PM
I think you’re reading more into those statements than was there. We can debate who was really at fault for the 2008 recession, but that doesn’t change the fact that Bush handed over a terrible economy to Obama. The same is going to be true when Biden inherits the current economy from Trump.

For Bush to have left a mess he would had to have made the mess, he did not. That mess was a long time coming and spans several administrations.

hanger4
12-26-2020, 03:14 PM
No offense, but most of the time, you just want to argue with me for the sake of arguing. I lack sufficient time on earth for that. Sorry.

Don't make statements you won't defend.

Docthehun
12-26-2020, 04:04 PM
See? I rest my case.

RichardMZhlubb
12-26-2020, 06:44 PM
For Bush to have left a mess he would had to have made the mess, he did not. That mess was a long time coming and spans several administrations.

Bush had a Republican majority in the House from 2001-2007 and in the Senate from 2002-2007. He could have addressed the issues that led to the recession, but chose not to. He has to take a significant share of the blame.

hanger4
12-26-2020, 07:02 PM
Bush had a Republican majority in the House from 2001-2007 and in the Senate from 2002-2007. He could have addressed the issues that led to the recession, but chose not to. He has to take a significant share of the blame.

Considering the housing boom/crash crossed party lines and several administrations your attempts at singling out any one individual is ignoring the history of the matter.

RichardMZhlubb
12-26-2020, 07:23 PM
Considering the housing boom/crash crossed party lines and several administrations your attempts at singling out any one individual is ignoring the history of the matter.

The issue is not whether Bush was solely responsible, The issue is whether he should be absolved of any responsibility for the economy cratering on his watch, as you’re suggestion.

hanger4
12-26-2020, 07:35 PM
The issue is not whether Bush was solely responsible, The issue is whether he should be absolved of any responsibility for the economy cratering on his watch, as you’re suggestion.

I've absolved nobody, you really shouldn't put words in others mouth. I've placed the blame where it belongs.

Mini Me
12-26-2020, 10:12 PM
I'm old enough to know the recession wasn't Bush's fault any more than it was Clinton's or Congress or any one individual or cause.
I put most of the blame on Alan Greenspan(Fed Chief) who pushed so much deregulation! Greenspan good buddies wth Ayn Rand, writer of fiction!

The Booman
12-26-2020, 10:13 PM
Ayn Rand caused a recession.

That's new.

Mini Me
12-26-2020, 10:16 PM
You didn't even read the link @Docthehun (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1986) posted did you?

Are you aware that when Obama was sworn in he had an economy that was in shambles and it took years to repair the damage? Slowly but surely he did.

That being said, with the inception of Obamacare, despite downplaying by insurance company lobbyists, allowed people who, before were unable to obtain coverage, were now able to purchase insurance plans or if they were under 26, stay on their parents plans.

ISIS was rampaging before Obama became president, to this day it has not been eradicated.

the Boogaloo movement was founded in 2019; the proud boy's group was founded in 2016 and both flourished under the Trump administration.

The swamp was never drained as promised.

You are right that every president inherits problems and issues when they take office. Biden hasn't been sworn in, yet he is at least attempting to come up with solutions for some things where his predecessor is doing everything within his power to assure the switchover is as painful to the American people as possible.

Its been nothing but chaos, lies, hate and divison with Trump!

Peter1469
12-27-2020, 05:37 AM
Its been nothing but chaos, lies, hate and divison with Trump!
No Mini.

hanger4
12-27-2020, 06:15 AM
I put most of the blame on Alan Greenspan(Fed Chief) who pushed so much deregulation! Greenspan good buddies wth Ayn Rand, writer of fiction!


That would put you on the foolish side with Richard.

jet57
12-28-2020, 05:19 PM
That would put you on the foolish side with Richard.

No, he's correct. Greenspan was all about keeping costs down and deregulation is a great way of doing that up until a new pyramid is formed.

hanger4
12-28-2020, 07:05 PM
No, he's correct. Greenspan was all about keeping costs down and deregulation is a great way of doing that up until a new pyramid is formed.

There is no single individual to point a finger at. There are numerous individuals spanning several administrations. These individuals and several government agencies all played a part and most of which had no idea they were all playing russian roulette. Here's a link to start understanding the housing bubble/burst.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877331,00.html

jet57
12-28-2020, 07:07 PM
There is no single individual to point a finger at. There are numerous individuals spanning several administrations. These individuals and several government agencies all played a part and most of which had no idea they were all playing russian roulette. Here's a link to start understanding the housing bubble/burst.

http://content.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877331,00.html

Old Mr. Deregulation himself, Ronald Reagan appointed him, so yeah there is only one person to point at.

hanger4
12-28-2020, 07:18 PM
Old Mr. Deregulation himself, Ronald Reagan appointed him, so yeah there is only one person to point at.

And reappointed by Bush1, Clinton and Bush2. Your point ??

hanger4
12-28-2020, 07:19 PM
Old Mr. Deregulation himself, Ronald Reagan appointed him, so yeah there is only one person to point at.

I take you're not going to educate yourself some with the link I posted ??

jet57
12-28-2020, 07:26 PM
And reappointed by Bush1, Clinton and Bush2. Your point ??

You mean THIS education??


But the super-low interest rates Greenspan brought in the early 2000s and his long-standing disdain for regulation are now held up as leading causes of the mortgage crisis. The maestro admitted in an October congressional hearing that he had "made a mistake in presuming" that financial firms could regulate themselves.

The point is - the damage continued.

jet57
12-28-2020, 07:27 PM
I take you're not going to educate yourself some with the link I posted ??

It's obvious that you should read more.

The Booman
12-28-2020, 07:54 PM
And with Trump out and Biden in a new era of awesomeness will begin because Joe Biden will be the best president ever. Even surpassing the progressive god Barack Obama in terms of brilliance, coherence and communication. So to celebrate let's light some candles, sing Tupac songs and discuss Kwanzaa.

hanger4
12-28-2020, 07:57 PM
You mean THIS education??

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The point is - the damage continued.

No, the point is Bush1, Clinton and Bush2 are just as complicit as you believe Reagan is.

jet57
12-28-2020, 07:59 PM
No, the point is Bush1, Clinton and Bush2 are just as complicit as you believe Reagan is.

Who ever said I was a fan of any of those guys? Like I aid earlier, through them the damage just continued.

hanger4
12-28-2020, 08:01 PM
It's obvious that you should read more.

It's obvious that simple minds need a simple solution (bad guy) even though there is no single bad guy concerning the housing bubble/burst.

hanger4
12-28-2020, 08:37 PM
Who ever said I was a fan of any of those guys? Like I aid earlier, through them the damage just continued.

Point being (which obviously flew over your head) there's plenty of blame to pass around, many individuals, several government agencies and across several administrations. Even you've implicated 5 individuals so far. :thumbsup:

jet57
12-28-2020, 11:03 PM
It's obvious that simple minds need a simple solution (bad guy) even though there is no single bad guy concerning the housing bubble/burst.
(chuckle)

What an idiotic post. Yeah, there were lots of people involved, deregulation was one of them.

jet57
12-28-2020, 11:04 PM
Point being (which obviously flew over your head) there's plenty of blame to pass around, many individuals, several government agencies and across several administrations. Even you've implicated 5 individuals so far. :thumbsup:
Nope: got the point fine and Greenspan was there through all of them.

That's the point your thick head won't get.

hanger4
12-29-2020, 05:57 AM
(chuckle)

What an idiotic post. Yeah, there were lots of people involved, deregulation was one of them.

Actually, over the decades preceding the housing crisis, regulators and regulations increased concerning financial institutions increased.

https://www.cato.org/policy-report/julyaugust-2009/did-deregulation-cause-financial-crisis

Not to mention it takes legislation to dereg or regulate, not acts of a single person.

hanger4
12-29-2020, 06:01 AM
Nope: got the point fine and Greenspan was there through all of them.

That's the point your thick head won't get.

Still clinging to the simple minded one finger one person solution I see.

Retirednsmilin308
12-29-2020, 07:00 AM
The Mango Mauler and his last die hard supporters are hunkering down in the bunker and entertaining bizarre attempts to negate the election and remain in power. Sort of like Hitler in the final days insisting that the war was not lost even though the Russians were at the door. I wonder how much bat$#@! stuff he will do before noon on Biden's inauguration day. Scary that a obviously mental ill person retains the power of the presidency.


...a "just like Hitler " mention in the original post of the thread.

You are dismissed.

33971

jet57
12-29-2020, 01:24 PM
Still clinging to the simple minded one finger one person solution I see.

You have to read what I write dude, not what you want to read into it.

hanger4
12-29-2020, 01:29 PM
You have to read what I write dude, not what you want to read into it.

I did and you are.

jet57
12-29-2020, 08:05 PM
I did and you are.

No, your comprehension is lacking and shaded by your prejudice.

hanger4
12-29-2020, 08:19 PM
No, your comprehension is lacking and shaded by your prejudice.

Greenspan was just one cog of a great many that spun over decades and led to the housing crisis. Prejudice ?? WTF.

jet57
12-29-2020, 10:41 PM
Greenspan was just one cog of a great many that spun over decades and led to the housing crisis. Prejudice ?? WTF.

I've said that as well, but for a financial wizard even HE said he screwed up and that has been my point all along. He was in a position to sound an alarm and his deregulatory religion prevented him from doing that so the banks and lenders went crazy and those like Steve Mnuchin who were at the top of the pyramid knew what they were doing and thereby robbed all of us blind and ushered in the crash making money hand over fist and Mnuchin and his bandit friends are some of the largest private property owners in the country: check out Blackstone.

Greenspan has always been a rob from the poor to feed the rich kinda guy, just like Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, so Greenspan WAS singularly responsible for the country's financial policies at the time because HE was the pilot.

hanger4
12-30-2020, 06:22 AM
I've said that as well, but for a financial wizard even HE said he screwed up and that has been my point all along. He was in a position to sound an alarm and his deregulatory religion prevented him from doing that so the banks and lenders went crazy and those like Steve Mnuchin who were at the top of the pyramid knew what they were doing and thereby robbed all of us blind and ushered in the crash making money hand over fist and Mnuchin and his bandit friends are some of the largest private property owners in the country: check out Blackstone.

Greenspan has always been a rob from the poor to feed the rich kinda guy, just like Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, so Greenspan WAS singularly responsible for the country's financial policies at the time because HE was the pilot.

Simple minds need simple answers.

jet57
12-30-2020, 06:28 AM
Simple minds need simple answers.

Reading will improve your mind.

Tahuyaman
12-30-2020, 11:34 PM
...Greenspan has always been a rob from the poor to feed the rich kinda guy, just like Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump, so Greenspan WAS singularly responsible for the country's financial policies at the time because HE was the pilot.

That’s not a smart comment. It’s the typical partisan nonsense that gets regurgitated by default.