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Leanne778
03-27-2021, 08:29 PM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling! Who the F do these republicans think they are? And to boot you can't give food or water?? Are they insane? This is bad. Very bad. Trump F'd up their minds man. Trump screwed around with their logical thinking process and has turned them into Trump zombies...all of them who are taking this approach. Don't think they aren't going to get a fight. They have already filed a lawsuit.

Georgia's new sweeping elections law (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html)has a number of controversial provisions that will restrict access to voting. But one in particular has some people shaking their heads. Under the bill, signed into law Thursday night by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, it's now illegal to hand out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector," the new law states.
One influential Black pastor said he thinks the new law is unreasonable and that his church will use it to fire up voters. "We will make a movement out of that," said the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta. "You know something is wrong when you can't give grandma a bottle of water and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html)

Red Lily
03-27-2021, 08:47 PM
Congratulations in the first few lines you only mentioned Trump 3 times and F'd twice. Things are improving. :icon_thumright:

carolina73
03-27-2021, 09:12 PM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling! Who the F do these republicans think they are? And to boot you can't give food or water?? Are they insane? This is bad. Very bad. Trump F'd up their minds man. Trump screwed around with their logical thinking process and has turned them into Trump zombies...all of them who are taking this approach. Don't think they aren't going to get a fight. They have already filed a lawsuit.

Georgia's new sweeping elections law (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html)has a number of controversial provisions that will restrict access to voting. But one in particular has some people shaking their heads. Under the bill, signed into law Thursday night by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, it's now illegal to hand out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector," the new law states.
One influential Black pastor said he thinks the new law is unreasonable and that his church will use it to fire up voters. "We will make a movement out of that," said the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta. "You know something is wrong when you can't give grandma a bottle of water and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html)









Yes. Outside people are not supposed to address people in line. It is to avoid campaigning.
Georgia says their new plan was to address the problem so that people would not spend a long time in line.

What would you say if the bottles said to vote for Trump? As someone else mentioned, what would you do if they were filled with alcohol. Tequila for Trump. Worse case, what if they mix in something to make them ill.

US Conservative
03-27-2021, 09:13 PM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling! Who the F do these republicans think they are? And to boot you can't give food or water?? Are they insane? This is bad. Very bad. Trump F'd up their minds man. Trump screwed around with their logical thinking process and has turned them into Trump zombies...all of them who are taking this approach. Don't think they aren't going to get a fight. They have already filed a lawsuit.

Georgia's new sweeping elections law (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html)has a number of controversial provisions that will restrict access to voting. But one in particular has some people shaking their heads. Under the bill, signed into law Thursday night by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, it's now illegal to hand out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector," the new law states.
One influential Black pastor said he thinks the new law is unreasonable and that his church will use it to fire up voters. "We will make a movement out of that," said the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta. "You know something is wrong when you can't give grandma a bottle of water and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html)









Calm down and maybe worry about getting blacks ID, as the dems keep saying they are incapable of obtaining one.

Don't do it online because Biden says blacks are unable to get online.

RMNIXON
03-27-2021, 09:15 PM
We have been debating this subject for days in multiple threads if you bothered?

But I have a new thread right up your street Leanne, Capitol Riot Crazy! :tinfoil:

FindersKeepers
03-27-2021, 09:18 PM
Read the bill, Leanne778.

You're wrong.

As, usual.

Leanne778
03-27-2021, 09:20 PM
Yes. Outside people are not supposed to address people in line. It is to avoid campaigning.
Georgia says their new plan was to address the problem so that people would not spend a long time in line.

What would you say if the bottles said to vote for Trump? As someone else mentioned, what would you do if they were filled with alcohol. Tequila for Trump. Worse case, what if they mix in something to make them ill.

Are you for real??? Now I've heard everything! Holy shit!

Leanne778
03-27-2021, 09:24 PM
Read the bill, @Leanne778 (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3475).

You're wrong.

As, usual.

Nope...

McDonald told CNN he is already planning to test the law with some civil disobedience. He said that at a future election his church will dare the police to arrest someone giving water to an elderly person waiting to vote.

Georgia's bill would make it a crime to give free food or water to voters standing in line for hours and hours. But we know who these politicians force to stand in line all day long," Shaub said earlier this month on Twitter (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1366732869163491328). "I've never once stood in line for even five minutes where I get to vote. This racism is thorough."

TheLiquidGuy
03-27-2021, 09:30 PM
Yes. Outside people are not supposed to address people in line. It is to avoid campaigning.
Georgia says their new plan was to address the problem so that people would not spend a long time in line.

The law shortens the early voting period for runoffs to 1 week. Does that sound like they are serious about shortening the lines?

If they were serious about addressing long lines, they would have put something in the bill expanding polling stations and lengthening the early voting period.

What would you say if the bottles said to vote for Trump?
I would laugh. hard. And I would say be my guest. Such things cannot change the vote of a person who knew they would be spending all day in line to vote. Anyone entering a day-long line already knew their voting intentions when they joined the line. No way they are changing it.


As someone else mentioned, what would you do if they were filled with alcohol. Tequila for Trump. Worse case, what if they mix in something to make them ill.

They can put whatever they want on the bottle. It won't change a thing. No one would be crazy enough to spike the bottle with something and expect to get away with it. Cameras are everywhere. Just ask the capitol rioters. Also, use common sense and don't drink from an opened bottle.

Now_What
03-27-2021, 09:36 PM
Cons are desperate. Just trying to get people to not vote is their only hope at this point.

carolina73
03-27-2021, 09:36 PM
Are you for real??? Now I've heard everything! Holy $#@!!
I didn't make it up. You are not allowed to address people in voting lines for their protection from campaigns. Same reason you will not see candidates hovering around the lines or their representatives. Your disbelief is actually ignorance.

carolina73
03-27-2021, 09:39 PM
Cons are desperate. Just trying to get people to not vote is their only hope at this point.
How would that work. If that was the goal then it would just mean a smaller number not a different result.

You are trying to claim that Democrats are too feeble or stupid. In that, the hidden message is race. You think blacks are stupid and can't get an ID. The truth is that the rural person that has to travel the furthest is most likely a Conservative based on demographics.

Now_What
03-27-2021, 09:41 PM
How would that work. If that was the goal then it would just mean a smaller number not a different result.

You are trying to claim that Democrats are too feeble or stupid. In that, the hidden message is race. You think blacks are stupid and can't get an ID. The truth is that the rural person that has to travel the furthest is most likely a Conservative based on democgraphics.
Wrong. Cons will vote no matter what. Supporting the candidates they worship mean more to them than anything in the world. You’re desperate at this point and it shows.

RMNIXON
03-27-2021, 09:41 PM
I didn't make it up. You are not allowed to address people in voting lines for their protection from campaigns. Same reason you will not see candidates hovering around the lines or their representatives. Your disbelief is actually ignorance.

Oh look, the local Union people with Food and Water and no possible agenda...................:rolleyes20:

If you get in line to vote how about you come prepared and just vote?





The logical solution is to reduce the lines by getting rid of non registered voter BS!

Can't bother then don't be some other persons problem asshole!

Cletus
03-27-2021, 09:47 PM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling! Who the F do these republicans think they are? And to boot you can't give food or water?? Are they insane? This is bad. Very bad. Trump F'd up their minds man. Trump screwed around with their logical thinking process and has turned them into Trump zombies...all of them who are taking this approach. Don't think they aren't going to get a fight. They have already filed a lawsuit.

Georgia's new sweeping elections law (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html)has a number of controversial provisions that will restrict access to voting. But one in particular has some people shaking their heads. Under the bill, signed into law Thursday night by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, it's now illegal to hand out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector," the new law states.
One influential Black pastor said he thinks the new law is unreasonable and that his church will use it to fire up voters. "We will make a movement out of that," said the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta. "You know something is wrong when you can't give grandma a bottle of water and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html)











I have to admit, you are always good for a laugh.

Do you have any idea WHY that was done? Do you have any idea how widespread that rule is... how many states have similar laws on the books?

No, of course you don't. Instead of taking 5 minutes and researching regarding election laws across the country, rather than taking the time to read and digest the Georgia statute, You prefer to show up on the forum and post some more hysterical bullshit and make a total fool of yourself... AGAIN.

carolina73
03-27-2021, 09:47 PM
The law shortens the early voting period for runoffs to 1 week. Does that sound like they are serious about shortening the lines?

If they were serious about addressing long lines, they would have put something in the bill expanding polling stations and lengthening the early voting period.

I would laugh. hard. And I would say be my guest. Such things cannot change the vote of a person who knew they would be spending all day in line to vote. Anyone entering a day-long line already knew their voting intentions when they joined the line. No way they are changing it.



They can put whatever they want on the bottle. It won't change a thing. No one would be crazy enough to spike the bottle with something and expect to get away with it. Cameras are everywhere. Just ask the capitol rioters. Also, use common sense and don't drink from an opened bottle.
Typical Democrat. You think it is okay for outsiders to address people in a voting line.
It is not.

As far as runoffs, they generally have smaller crowds, have less preparation time.

Nothing you say, stops these water carriers from interfering. The New Black Panthers or KKK could campaign for the Democrat candidates in line.

carolina73
03-27-2021, 09:51 PM
Wrong. Cons will vote no matter what. Supporting the candidates they worship mean more to them than anything in the world. You’re desperate at this point and it shows.

Show how I am desperate. Your quick with the insult but never have any facts.

Basically you are saying in your statement that you have to drag out the Democrat voters. We know how you do that.

Cletus
03-27-2021, 09:52 PM
Basically you are saying in your statement that you have to drag out the Democrat voters. We know how you do that.

Drag out and dig up.

Now_What
03-27-2021, 09:54 PM
Show how I am desperate. Your quick with the insult but never have any facts.

Basically you are saying in your statement that you have to drag out the Democrat voters. We know how you do that.
There are more D voters in cities, where lines are longer. Laws that impact people in cities motor will negatively impact democrats more.

carolina73
03-27-2021, 09:56 PM
Oh look, the local Union people with Food and Water and no possible agenda...................:rolleyes20:

If you get in line to vote how about you come prepared and just vote?





The logical solution is to reduce the lines by getting rid of non registered voter BS!

Can't bother then don't be some other persons problem $#@!!
The New Black Panthers with a club and a bottle of water.

US Conservative
03-27-2021, 10:24 PM
Cons are desperate. Just trying to get people to not vote is their only hope at this point.

Its conservatives who are importing the 3rd world for election interference?

Why do the dead always seem to vote democrat?

carolina73
03-27-2021, 10:39 PM
The famous words of Democrats are "That will never happen". It is a guarantee that it will.

Joe Wilson was right. Obama lied. Illegals are getting government paid Obamacare.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 01:49 AM
Typical Democrat. You think it is okay for outsiders to address people in a voting line.
It is not.

They don't have to address them. Just hold out a bottle of water. and see who grabs it.

But I don't think addressing the line changes votes. Nor should anyone else. That is the purported basis for making these changes.

As far as runoffs, they generally have smaller crowds, have less preparation time.

November Election
Votes in Perdue/Ossoff election: 4.8 million

Votes in Warnock/Loefler 4 million

Runoff Election
Votes in Perdue/Ossoff election: 4.49 million

Votes in Warnock/Loefler 4.49 million


As you can see The turn out was pretty close in the Georgia runoff. and in the Warnock election, MORE people voted in the runoff. So why would any one look at this and say "we need less time to vote in runoffs"


Nothing you say, stops these water carriers from interfering. The New Black Panthers or KKK could campaign for the Democrat candidates in line.
Nothing I say? lol. Are you still trying to convince me that people in line can be coerced into changing their votes?

You know that's not true. No one believes that.

Handing people water is not intimidating. It is not persuasion.

Now, I will admit that there is a political motive for giving out water. Democrats believe it will help elect democrats. Not because it persuades people to change their votes. But because it gives people the ability to remain in line and see their votes through. Both dems and republicans. But democrats knew there were more dems in those lines. And so did Republicans. Thats why they dont mind if the lines dissolve.

RMNIXON
03-28-2021, 01:51 AM
They don't have to address them. Just hold out a bottle of water. and see who grabs it.




Now you are pretending to be stupid on purpose. :facepalm:

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 01:56 AM
Typical Democrat. You think it is okay for outsiders to address people in a voting line.
It is not.

I will add that the law does not focus on forbidding speaking to people in line.

It forbids giving them ANYTHING, food, water, chair, parasol, money, ANYTHIING.

Cletus
03-28-2021, 02:02 AM
Now you are pretending to be stupid on purpose. :facepalm:


What makes you think he is pretending?

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 02:28 AM
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210326101157-01-georgia-voting-line-water-snacks-file-super-tease.jpghttps://preview.redd.it/tl5dt32xmep61.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&f1374be5


Yes. Outside people are not supposed to address people in line. It is to avoid campaigning.

Georgia says their new plan was to address the problem so that people would not spend a long time in line.

What would you say if the bottles said to vote for Trump? As someone else mentioned, what would you do if they were


filled with alcohol. Tequila for Trump. Worse case, what if they mix in something to make them ill.

Trump Rallies prior to October 1st 2020 , conducted without the benefit of masks and social distancing, infected an estimated 30,000 Americans and the responsible for deaths of another 700 according to a Stanford study - but providing water for citizens in Georgia's notoriously long voting lines is considered by conservatives to be a health hazard!

This water ban is so divorced from reality, I can see 1000's of defiant protesters in the next election showing contempt for this law by resorting to civil disobedience by deliberately handing out water

As a "badge of honor," they'll demand to be arrested, fill Georgia's jails and flood the court system with violations for providing free water - holding the Governor and state Republicans up to national scorn and ridicule!

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 02:29 AM
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/unionleader.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/f6/2f687e8b-e63d-58b9-8908-e47e551d7e61/605e2fe660916.image.jpg?resize=400%2C285

1) Georgia Governor from a former "slave" and "Jim Crow" state,

2) signing voter-suppression legislation,

3) surrounded by 6 older "white" conservative politicians

4) with a picture of a plantation mansion of former slave-owners in the the background

5) what could possibly be wrong with the message being sent

US Conservative
03-28-2021, 03:04 AM
Cons are desperate. Just trying to get people to not vote is their only hope at this point.


https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/unionleader.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/f6/2f687e8b-e63d-58b9-8908-e47e551d7e61/605e2fe660916.image.jpg?resize=400%2C285

1) Georgia Governor from a former "slave" and "Jim Crow" state,

2) signing voter-suppression legislation,

3) surrounded by 6 older "white" conservative politicians

4) with a picture of a plantation mansion of former slave-owners in the the background

5) what could possibly be wrong with the message being sent

Ask Gov. Northam.

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 03:07 AM
https://preview.redd.it/tl5dt32xmep61.jpg?auto=webp&34cdf90f

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 03:11 AM
Now you are pretending to be stupid on purpose. :facepalm:
I think there is a big difference between communicating with people in line and handing them water.

There is no realistic path between handing people water and intimidation or changing a voter's mind.

It is impossible to bribe or coerce people due to the secret ballot.
Therefore this law does not achieve the purported goals of the legislation
Therefore this law provides no benefit.
Since it provides no benefit and it also harms voting, it should be removed.

Peter1469
03-28-2021, 03:32 AM
Debunked in the first thread on this.

Cons are desperate. Just trying to get people to not vote is their only hope at this point.

Peter1469
03-28-2021, 03:34 AM
I see the racists leftists are saying the same crap in this dupe thread that they said in the first thread on the topic.

gamewell45
03-28-2021, 04:04 AM
Yes. Outside people are not supposed to address people in line. It is to avoid campaigning.
Georgia says their new plan was to address the problem so that people would not spend a long time in line.

What would you say if the bottles said to vote for Trump? As someone else mentioned, what would you do if they were filled with alcohol. Tequila for Trump. Worse case, what if they mix in something to make them ill.

What if they weren't and were plain bottles of commercially available water or scotch or orange juice? Or a bag of commercially available wise potato chips or a McDonalds burger? Sometimes people have to wait hours on line in order to vote.


Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl)

FindersKeepers
03-28-2021, 04:57 AM
Nope...

McDonald told CNN he is already planning to test the law with some civil disobedience. He said that at a future election his church will dare the police to arrest someone giving water to an elderly person waiting to vote.


Well, he's an idiot. Or, like most liberals, he just hasn't read the law. Download it here (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201498) and do us all a favor, Leanne -- read it.

Georgia's bill would make it a crime to give free food or water to voters standing in line for hours and hours. But we know who these politicians force to stand in line all day long," Shaub said earlier this month on Twitter (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1366732869163491328). "I've never once stood in line for even five minutes where I get to vote. This racism is thorough."


The bill isn't about making people stand in line for hours without water -- it's about stopping people from campaigning and pressuring people who are in line waiting to vote. And, it ONLY applies within 150 feet of the building.


1872 "(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any
1873 person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,
1874 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and
1875 drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any
1876 person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables
1877 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
1878 (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is
1879 established;

The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.


"(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1889 line to vote."

Your claim that they're "waiting in line for hours" is also bullshit. The bill is adding more Saturday and Sunday voting days to reduce in-line waiting so more can vote.


More than 100 counties have never offered voting on Sunday
87 and many counties offered only a single day of weekend voting. Requiring two Saturday
88 voting days and two optional Sunday voting days will dramatically increase the total voting
89 hours for voters across the State of Georgia, and all electors in Georgia will have access
90 to multiple opportunities to vote in person on the weekend for the first time;

In addition, precincts where voters have to stand in line for JUST ONE HOUR will have to be reorganized to reduce voter waiting time.


If, at the previous general election, a precinct contained more than 2,000 electors and
722 if electors desiring to vote on the day of the election had to wait in line for more than one
723 hour before checking in to vote, the superintendent shall either reduce the size of such
724 precinct so that it shall contain not more than 2,000 electors in accordance with the
725 procedures prescribed by this chapter for the division, alteration, and consolidation of
726 precincts no later than 60 days before the next general election or provide additional voting
727 equipment or poll workers, or both, before the next general election.

In short -- the Georgia bill will encourage more in-person voting by reducing waiting time and by not allowing outsiders to pressure those waiting in line to vote.

Don't buy into the spin, Leanne. You should know by now that the liberal media will twist the truth to lure in the dummies. Quit drinking their KoolAid.

stephenpe
03-28-2021, 05:10 AM
It is Georgia after all. Didnt they elect a woman that is three shades to the right of bttchttt crazy? Of cousre they needed to change the laws. The state deposed the idiot king. And all the flags and signs didnt seem to work.

Peter1469
03-28-2021, 05:28 AM
It is Georgia after all. Didnt they elect a woman that is three shades to the right of bttchttt crazy? Of cousre they needed to change the laws. The state deposed the idiot king. And all the flags and signs didnt seem to work.
Who? Use your adult words.

The Booman
03-28-2021, 05:31 AM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling! Who the F do these republicans think they are? And to boot you can't give food or water?? Are they insane? This is bad. Very bad. Trump F'd up their minds man. Trump screwed around with their logical thinking process and has turned them into Trump zombies...all of them who are taking this approach. Don't think they aren't going to get a fight. They have already filed a lawsuit.

Georgia's new sweeping elections law (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html)has a number of controversial provisions that will restrict access to voting. But one in particular has some people shaking their heads. Under the bill, signed into law Thursday night by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, it's now illegal to hand out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector," the new law states.
One influential Black pastor said he thinks the new law is unreasonable and that his church will use it to fire up voters. "We will make a movement out of that," said the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta. "You know something is wrong when you can't give grandma a bottle of water and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html)











Exactly how appalling? Like appallingly appalling? Don Lemon appalling? Andrew Cuomo looking after your elderly mom appalling? Do you really need someone wandering up and down the line with a tray of goodies like some sort of Martha Stewart flight attendant? "I've been waiting to vote for an hour, I would really love a diet Coke and a warm towel right about about now. What time does this line to vote land in Vancouver?" The point is to prevent people campaigning and trying to influence or intimidate voters. There is nothing sinister about it. You and CNN are more dramatic than a daytime soap opera. Calm down, Coronation Street.

stjames1_53
03-28-2021, 05:50 AM
Wrong. Cons will vote no matter what. Supporting the candidates they worship mean more to them than anything in the world. You’re desperate at this point and it shows.

Cons liberal idiots will vote no matter what. Supporting the candidates they worship mean more to them than anything in the world. They are desperate at this point and it shows.
You guys keep attacking someone that isn't in office as if he were still in office............hell, sonny, the joke is on you. You've elected a do nothing president.
BTW, his EO's on gun control will be ignored since they are unconstitutional....another abject failure for Joe*

Now_What
03-28-2021, 06:12 AM
Its conservatives who are importing the 3rd world for election interference?

Why do the dead always seem to vote democrat?
No, that’s your ilk. And I wouldn’t say Russia is third world...

Now_What
03-28-2021, 06:13 AM
Cons liberal idiots will vote no matter what. Supporting the candidates they worship mean more to them than anything in the world. They are desperate at this point and it shows.
You guys keep attacking someone that isn't in office as if he were still in office............hell, sonny, the joke is on you. You've elected a do nothing president.
BTW, his EO's on gun control will be ignored since they are unconstitutional....another abject failure for Joe*
Liberals vote no matter what? LOL, interesting...so you were in favor of mail in voting?

hanger4
03-28-2021, 06:34 AM
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210326101157-01-georgia-voting-line-water-snacks-file-super-tease.jpghttps://preview.redd.it/tl5dt32xmep61.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&f1374be5



Trump Rallies prior to October 1st 2020 , conducted without the benefit of masks and social distancing, infected an estimated 30,000 Americans and the responsible for deaths of another 700 according to a Stanford study - but providing water for citizens in Georgia's notoriously long voting lines is considered by conservatives to be a health hazard!

This water ban is so divorced from reality, I can see 1000's of defiant protesters in the next election showing contempt for this law by resorting to civil disobedience by deliberately handing out water

As a "badge of honor," they'll demand to be arrested, fill Georgia's jails and flood the court system with violations for providing free water - holding the Governor and state Republicans up to national scorn and ridicule!

*Trump Rallies prior to October 1st 2020 , conducted without the benefit of masks and social distancing, infected an estimated 30,000 Americans and the responsible for deaths of another 700 according to a Stanford study*

A study not peer reviewed nor based in science.

*Adalja said the Stanford paper was "suggestive" of spread from the events, but not definitive because it was not based on an investigation of actual cases. That would help confirm whether participants were exposed to the virus at the event, rather than other places where transmission is rampant.*

https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idINKBN27H1IG

hanger4
03-28-2021, 06:43 AM
Well, he's an idiot. Or, like most liberals, he just hasn't read the law. Download it here (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201498) and do us all a favor, Leanne -- read it.
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The bill isn't about making people stand in line for hours without water -- it's about stopping people from campaigning and pressuring people who are in line waiting to vote. And, it ONLY applies within 150 feet of the building.



The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.



Your claim that they're "waiting in line for hours" is also bullshit. The bill is adding more Saturday and Sunday voting days to reduce in-line waiting so more can vote.



In addition, precincts where voters have to stand in line for JUST ONE HOUR will have to be reorganized to reduce voter waiting time.



In short -- the Georgia bill will encourage more in-person voting by reducing waiting time and by not allowing outsiders to pressure those waiting in line to vote.

Don't buy into the spin, Leanne. You should know by now that the liberal media will twist the truth to lure in the dummies. Quit drinking their KoolAid.

Leanne778 has been duped by CNN so many times you'd think she'd learn that lying by omission is their stock-in-trade.

stjames1_53
03-28-2021, 06:47 AM
Liberals vote no matter what? LOL, interesting...so you were in favor of mail in voting?
Not for people living in the US. The only people who should vote by mail are those SERVING overseas.
Even out here, as remote as it is, the local parties (BOTH) provide rides for those who cannot drive themselves. I even helped out without any political pressure. If the riders wanted to chat, we talk about the weather and farming conditions.
You are so obsessed......
Even after Trump is gone, you still cannot let it go. That's a sure enough sign of immaturity.
Move on, dude, or you'll find that right foot lodged in the past, just like your left foot is parked in the 1800's.
Real adults move on. Children remain behind.

MMC
03-28-2021, 08:04 AM
It is Georgia after all. Didnt they elect a woman that is three shades to the right of bttchttt crazy? Of cousre they needed to change the laws. The state deposed the idiot king. And all the flags and signs didnt seem to work.

No one was talking about the racist Stacey Abrams.

MMC
03-28-2021, 08:06 AM
@Leanne778 (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3475) has been duped by CNN so many times you'd think she'd learn that lying by omission is their stock-in-trade.

Just like WAPO and the New York Times, huh?

MMC
03-28-2021, 08:41 AM
Well, he's an idiot. Or, like most liberals, he just hasn't read the law. Download it here (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201498) and do us all a favor, Leanne -- read it.
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The bill isn't about making people stand in line for hours without water -- it's about stopping people from campaigning and pressuring people who are in line waiting to vote. And, it ONLY applies within 150 feet of the building.



The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.



Your claim that they're "waiting in line for hours" is also bullshit. The bill is adding more Saturday and Sunday voting days to reduce in-line waiting so more can vote.



In addition, precincts where voters have to stand in line for JUST ONE HOUR will have to be reorganized to reduce voter waiting time.



In short -- the Georgia bill will encourage more in-person voting by reducing waiting time and by not allowing outsiders to pressure those waiting in line to vote.

Don't buy into the spin, Leanne. You should know by now that the liberal media will twist the truth to lure in the dummies. Quit drinking their KoolAid.


Good Job Keeper. Debunked that bullshit quick like. Naturally CNN and Leftist Media all jumped on the bandwagon after Slow Joe spoke on the issue. Then as you can see here with the usual leftists around here. Almost tout the same shit word for word.


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BIDEN on GA voting law to reporters on South Lawn: "It's an atrocity...You can't provide water to people standing on line and waiting to vote? We don't need anything else to know that this is nothing but punitive and designed to keep people from voting"





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Biden bashes the new Georgia voting law, calling it an "atrocity.""They pass a law saying you can't provide water for people standing in line ... This is nothing but punitive, designed to keep people from voting.".....snip~


[FONT=Georgia]Let’s take a look at what S.B. 202 actually says (https://legiscan.com/GA/text/SB202/id/2348602/Georgia-2021-SB202-Enrolled.pdf):
No person shall solicit votes [or] distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to [a voter] … This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer…from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to [a voter] waiting in line to vote.

The parts in bold are what S.B. 202 added to the statute. The prohibition applies inside polling places, within 150 feet of a polling place, or “within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.”
Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false. What you cannot do under the new Georgia law is deploy people in National Rifle Association t-shirts and MAGA hats to hand out free Koch-brothers-financed, Federalist Society–branded pizza to voters.


In other words, this entire controversy is not about people dropping dead of hunger and thirst on long voting lines at all. It’s about electioneering around the polling place by people looking to advertise that they represent a cause, and who try to influence voters by giving them free stuff. Across the country today, we already have lots of laws against this sort of thing. There is nothing wrong with Georgia trying to limit it.


Minnesota law has a broad ban on approaching voters:
No one except an election official or an individual who is waiting to register or to vote or an individual who is conducting exit polling shall stand within 100 feet of the building in which a polling place is located. Minn. Stat. § 204C.06.....snip~


Note that. Democrat governed state.


New York makes “Furnishing money or entertainment to induce attendance at polls” a class A misdemeanor, and explicitly includes handing out “meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision” unless it is worth less than a dollar and the person providing it is not identified:


Any person who…in respect of any election during the hours of voting…gives or provides, or causes to be given or provided, or shall pay, wholly or in part, for any meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision to or for any person, other than [poll workers and other voting officials], except any such meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision having a retail value of less than one dollar, which is given or provided to any person in a polling place without any identification of the person or entity supplying such provisions, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-140.....snip~


[COLOR=#800000]Oh my.....Not New York? Not that Demo shithole stopping people from getting food or water in a long line.


Any person who…in respect of any election during the hours of voting…gives or provides, or causes to be given or provided, or shall pay, wholly or in part, for any meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision to or for any person, other than [poll workers and other voting officials], except any such meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision having a retail value of less than one dollar, which is given or provided to any person in a polling place without any identification of the person or entity supplying such provisions, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-140.....snip~



Laws of these sorts have been the product of experience. In 1998, the Supreme Court of Kentucky, in Ellis v. Meeks, threw out the results of a primary election where the winner, Meeks (who prevailed by eight votes) had handed out free food at the polling place, and made it available to voters. The court rejected the argument that this was all harmless because there was no direct evidence that he had changed any votes or had demanded any explicit quid pro quo from voters:
At ten of the fifteen voting stations in the 11th Ward, Meeks made free food available to anyone present, glad-handed voters as they entered, and spoke with voters as they signed in to vote. Based upon this evidence, we… hold that Meeks’ non-verbal conduct solicited votes and amounted to electioneering within 500 feet of a building where votes were being cast…We can conceive of no other explanation for his actions…. We find that making free food available to precinct workers and voters was an item of value offered by Meeks in exchange for their votes or moral support in violation of [Kentucky law].


Georgia’s law follows the same line of reasoning: The obvious motive of showing up to hand things directly to voters, rather than just providing them to poll workers to distribute, is to influence their votes.


Is there a problem with voters standing on long lines to vote? Yes, there is (https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/03/22/how-to-secure-elections/), and it tends to fall more heavily on black voters. But unfortunately, in states such as Georgia, the problem of long lines is largely under the control of local Democratic officials rather than the Republicans who run the state, who nonetheless get all the blame from the national media.


While you would not learn this from the Democrats or their sympathetic media coverage, S.B. 202 actually takes steps to fix those long lines. Georgia law previously allowed the state to override local election officials and require them to add more precincts or voting machines if people were left standing on line for an hour after the polls closed. S.B. 202 expands that authority, so that the state can step in and require more polling places or voting machines if voters in overcrowded precincts face lines of an hour or more at any of three measured intervals during the day. Read the new section for yourself:


Instead of allowing electioneering while people wait on long lines, eliminate both the electioneering and the lines. That’s what Joe Biden’s ranting is supposed to distract you from hearing......snip~


Georgia Voter Law: Joe Biden's Criticism Is Off Base | National Review (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/03/joe-biden-botches-the-georgia-voting-law/)






Biden, the Lame Stream Media and leftists arent looking good are they? Of course like Reagan said.....they know so much about what they dont know. Still National Review did make Biden and leftness look like dipshits.


Oh btw.....average bottle of water in New York. LMAO.


Bottle of Water Price in New York 2021 - Cost To Travel (https://www.costtotravel.com/cost/water-in-new-york)

https://www.costtotravel.com/cost/water-in-new-york
7 rows · The price of Bottle of Water (0.5 Litre) in New York, United States is 1.70 USD. Currency.


Ya gotta laugh at leftists and their bullshit about water, food, long lines. As usual its a case of Democrats that don't do that Water, Food, food stuff in their long lines in their Democrat shitholes. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif

MMC
03-28-2021, 08:46 AM
Oh and btw.....Here in Chicago. Democrat shithole. Several Precincts wont allow anyone to enter with any bottle, Jar, or Glass of Liquid. Of any type. To worried about Bombs, Flammables, Terrorists. LOL


Ordered by guess who.....thas Right. Deviate ass Democrats! :laugh:

MMC
03-28-2021, 10:20 AM
I wonder if the leftness can explain why their Democrats have those long lines to vote in Atlanta. Why are the Democrats suppressing the Black vote. Someone need, to ask the racist bat shit crazy Gapped tooth Abrams about that, huh?

Leanne778
03-28-2021, 10:26 AM
Oh look, the local Union people with Food and Water and no possible agenda...................:rolleyes20:

If you get in line to vote how about you come prepared and just vote?





The logical solution is to reduce the lines by getting rid of non registered voter BS!

Can't bother then don't be some other persons problem $#@!!

That is what they did. They were prepared to just vote. What do you think? The Republicans are trying to make it harder for them to vote. Period. I never thought I would see this in the US. Never.

Leanne778
03-28-2021, 10:31 AM
Well, he's an idiot. Or, like most liberals, he just hasn't read the law. Download it here (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201498) and do us all a favor, Leanne -- read it.
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The bill isn't about making people stand in line for hours without water -- it's about stopping people from campaigning and pressuring people who are in line waiting to vote. And, it ONLY applies within 150 feet of the building.



The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.



Your claim that they're "waiting in line for hours" is also bull$#@!. The bill is adding more Saturday and Sunday voting days to reduce in-line waiting so more can vote.



In addition, precincts where voters have to stand in line for JUST ONE HOUR will have to be reorganized to reduce voter waiting time.



In short -- the Georgia bill will encourage more in-person voting by reducing waiting time and by not allowing outsiders to pressure those waiting in line to vote.

Don't buy into the spin, Leanne. You should know by now that the liberal media will twist the truth to lure in the dummies. Quit drinking their KoolAid.

I don't have to read it. It is clear what the Republicans are trying to do. Are you serious? A majority of voters already know who they are voting for. They don't have to stand in line and someone comes up to them with a bottle of water and says, "hey, Vote Republican" for pete sakes. People know who they are going to vote for. God you sound so stupid.

MMC
03-28-2021, 10:33 AM
That is what they did. They were prepared to just vote. What do you think? The Republicans are trying to make it harder for them to vote. Period. I never thought I would see this in the US. Never.

LMAO your Democrats got caught lying. So why lie about the Repubs. Those long lines in Atlanta were caused by your kind. Your bullshit has been debunked. No sense in keeping this garbage going so you can continue to lie about Republicans. Despite it being comedy gold that your lies will continue.

goodpen
03-28-2021, 10:39 AM
Listening to the Dems scream, One would think Georgia was the only State having laws related to activities not allowed near a polling place. Even Calif prohibits things like campaign signs...
"Electioneering Prohibitions
10/30/2020https://www.ncsl.org/portals/1/ImageLibrary_New/Elections/voter-here-sign-12230272_1x.jpgEach state has some form of restriction on political activities (https://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/surveys/2020-10/state-laws-polling-place-electioneering-Oct-2020.pdf) near polling places when voting is taking place.
These restrictions usually include limiting the display of signs, handing out campaign literature or soliciting votes within a pre-determined distance (typically 50 to 200 feet) of a polling place. Some states also address what apparel voters can wear within polling places (read NCSL's blog on the electioneering apparel case (https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2018/02/28/should-you-be-able-to-wear-your-maga-or-resist-hat-at-the-polls.aspx) that made it to the Supreme Court).
This webpage provides a breakdown of prohibitions in each state. Here is a summary:

15 states prohibit campaign apparel/buttons/stickers/placards
37 states prohibit campaign materials/signs/banners/literature
28 States prohibit influencing voters/soliciting votes/political persuasion
17 states prohibit circulating petitions/soliciting signatures
9 states prohibit projecting sounds referring to candidates/issues
6 states prohibit polls/exit polls
9 states prohibit loitering
3 states prohibit peddling/advertising
10 states prohibit voter intimidation/interfering with voter
10 states prohibit obstructing entrance/hindering voter
The table below provides information on electioneering prohibitions for each state.
Table 1: State Statutes on Electioneering Prohibitions"

MMC
03-28-2021, 10:44 AM
Listening to the Dems scream, One would think Georgia was the only State having laws related to activities not allowed near a polling place. Even Calif prohibits things like campaign signs...
"Electioneering Prohibitions


10/30/2020https://www.ncsl.org/portals/1/ImageLibrary_New/Elections/voter-here-sign-12230272_1x.jpg

Each state has some form of restriction on political activities (https://www.nass.org/sites/default/files/surveys/2020-10/state-laws-polling-place-electioneering-Oct-2020.pdf) near polling places when voting is taking place.
These restrictions usually include limiting the display of signs, handing out campaign literature or soliciting votes within a pre-determined distance (typically 50 to 200 feet) of a polling place. Some states also address what apparel voters can wear within polling places (read NCSL's blog on the electioneering apparel case (https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2018/02/28/should-you-be-able-to-wear-your-maga-or-resist-hat-at-the-polls.aspx) that made it to the Supreme Court).
This webpage provides a breakdown of prohibitions in each state. Here is a summary:

15 states prohibit campaign apparel/buttons/stickers/placards
37 states prohibit campaign materials/signs/banners/literature
28 States prohibit influencing voters/soliciting votes/political persuasion
17 states prohibit circulating petitions/soliciting signatures
9 states prohibit projecting sounds referring to candidates/issues
6 states prohibit polls/exit polls
9 states prohibit loitering
3 states prohibit peddling/advertising
10 states prohibit voter intimidation/interfering with voter
10 states prohibit obstructing entrance/hindering voter
The table below provides information on electioneering prohibitions for each state.
Table 1: State Statutes on Electioneering Prohibitions"






The best part of this issue are those Democrat governed shitholes. Like New York that wont allow food or water to be given to people in long voting lines that the Deviates caused. :laugh:

Hoosier8
03-28-2021, 10:48 AM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling! Who the F do these republicans think they are? And to boot you can't give food or water?? Are they insane? This is bad. Very bad. Trump F'd up their minds man. Trump screwed around with their logical thinking process and has turned them into Trump zombies...all of them who are taking this approach. Don't think they aren't going to get a fight. They have already filed a lawsuit.

Georgia's new sweeping elections law (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html)has a number of controversial provisions that will restrict access to voting. But one in particular has some people shaking their heads. Under the bill, signed into law Thursday night by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, it's now illegal to hand out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector," the new law states.
One influential Black pastor said he thinks the new law is unreasonable and that his church will use it to fire up voters. "We will make a movement out of that," said the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta. "You know something is wrong when you can't give grandma a bottle of water and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html)









LOL, partisan organizations were going to the polls to influence voters. If you think you can't make it through standing in line to vote without a bottle of water, well...

Hoosier8
03-28-2021, 10:50 AM
I don't have to read it. It is clear what the Republicans are trying to do. Are you serious? A majority of voters already know who they are voting for. They don't have to stand in line and someone comes up to them with a bottle of water and says, "hey, Vote Republican" for pete sakes. People know who they are going to vote for. God you sound so stupid.
Talk about sounding stupid. If you can't stand in line without being pampered maybe you are voting for the wrong party.

Leanne778
03-28-2021, 11:22 AM
Talk about sounding stupid. If you can't stand in line without being pampered maybe you are voting for the wrong party.
Being pampered? Hardly. I'm thinking about the elderly or disabled moron.

countryboy
03-28-2021, 11:29 AM
I don't have to read it. It is clear what the Republicans are trying to do. Are you serious? A majority of voters already know who they are voting for. They don't have to stand in line and someone comes up to them with a bottle of water and says, "hey, Vote Republican" for pete sakes. People know who they are going to vote for. God you sound so stupid.

The fact that you are so rabidly, foaming at the mouth, against this legislation, tells me it can only be good for the republic.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 11:39 AM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling! Who the F do these republicans think they are? And to boot you can't give food or water?? Are they insane? This is bad. Very bad. Trump F'd up their minds man. Trump screwed around with their logical thinking process and has turned them into Trump zombies...all of them who are taking this approach. Don't think they aren't going to get a fight. They have already filed a lawsuit.

Georgia's new sweeping elections law (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/25/politics/georgia-state-house-voting-bill-passage/index.html)has a number of controversial provisions that will restrict access to voting. But one in particular has some people shaking their heads. Under the bill, signed into law Thursday night by Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, it's now illegal to hand out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector," the new law states.
One influential Black pastor said he thinks the new law is unreasonable and that his church will use it to fire up voters. "We will make a movement out of that," said the Rev. Tim McDonald, senior pastor of First Iconium Baptist Church in Atlanta. "You know something is wrong when you can't give grandma a bottle of water and a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line - CNNPolitics (https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/26/politics/georgia-voting-law-food-drink-ban-trnd/index.html)










It is not illegal to provide food and water to people in line waiting to vote. It's not allowed to do that as an organized effort from a specific campaign or advocacy group.


Once again a liberal can't be honest and truthful. She needs to lie and deceive. It's gotten to be a regular thing with her.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 11:46 AM
If someone wants to walk down a line of voters and hand out free Big Mac's and a super sized soda, nothing prevents that as long as it's not done by a campaign or political advocacy group.


For Instance, a rich Republican candidate is forbidden from handing out free pizza slices and bottles of Perrier to people waiting in line to vote.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 11:49 AM
The fact that you are so rabidly, foaming at the mouth, against this legislation, tells me it can only be good for the republic.
The title of her thread is a blatant lie.

In her defense, she probably doesn't know that because she's only going off the false comment Biden made during his stumbling and mumbling press conference. I'm sure she has not read any part of that bill.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 11:58 AM
Not for people living in the US. The only people who should vote by mail are those SERVING overseas.
Even out here, as remote as it is, the local parties (BOTH) provide rides for those who cannot drive themselves. I even helped out without any political pressure. If the riders wanted to chat, we talk about the weather and farming conditions.
You are so obsessed......
Even after Trump is gone, you still cannot let it go. That's a sure enough sign of immaturity.
Move on, dude, or you'll find that right foot lodged in the past, just like your left foot is parked in the 1800's.
Real adults move on. Children remain behind.
Nope. I don’t care if it makes you butt hurt. I will be laughing at trump...and you....for a lonnnng time. :)

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 11:58 AM
I don't have to read it....
In other words, "I don't need to know what I'm talking about, the facts don't matter."

hanger4
03-28-2021, 12:07 PM
I don't have to read it. It is clear what the Republicans are trying to do. Are you serious? A majority of voters already know who they are voting for. They don't have to stand in line and someone comes up to them with a bottle of water and says, "hey, Vote Republican" for pete sakes. People know who they are going to vote for. God you sound so stupid.

Leanne778 you should have read the bill and not relied on CNN, they lied by omission. The bill plainly states, poll workers can make available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in those waiting in line to vote.

Learn to think for yourself.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 12:07 PM
Nope. I don’t care if it makes you butt hurt. I will be laughing at trump...and you....for a lonnnng time. :)
Trump isn't relevant to this thread.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 12:09 PM
Trump isn't relevant to this thread.

You okay?

Admiral Ackbar
03-28-2021, 12:17 PM
This is great example of the Maoist mindset. The reason for the language that has our Communist friends in such an aggitated state is that they dont want electioneering at the polling places. I wonder why no one ever bothers to go to the DMV and offer water and snacks to those suffering in those long lines. Boy would that be appreciated!

The Chairman smiles down the efforts by his cadre to fix "elections" It is his way!

God Bless America, God Bless Donald Trump and God Bless the common sense state reps in GA!

36312

hanger4
03-28-2021, 12:20 PM
You okay?

You constant diversion is an indication of immaturity. Are you OK ??

Now_What
03-28-2021, 12:21 PM
You constant diversion is an indication of immaturity. Are you OK ??
I’m surfing on top of the blue wave. I’m great! Thanks for checking!

and you??

hanger4
03-28-2021, 12:28 PM
I’m surfing on top of the blue wave. I’m great! Thanks for checking!

and you??

Your constant diversionary tolling is also a sign of an intellectual deficiency.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 12:32 PM
Your constant diversionary tolling is also a sign of an intellectual deficiency.
So are your constant personal attacks, right?

hanger4
03-28-2021, 12:37 PM
So are your constant personal attacks, right?

Stop trolling and discuss the topic at hand. It really is as simple as that.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 12:39 PM
Stop trolling and discuss the topic at hand. It really is as simple as that.

This is about elections and Donald trump was in the last presidential election. Like I said, I’m not concerned about your feelings.

FindersKeepers
03-28-2021, 12:45 PM
I don't have to read it. It is clear what the Republicans are trying to do. Are you serious? A majority of voters already know who they are voting for. They don't have to stand in line and someone comes up to them with a bottle of water and says, "hey, Vote Republican" for pete sakes. People know who they are going to vote for. God you sound so stupid.

You would rather read liberal spin than the actual bill. Why am I not surprised.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 12:47 PM
The bottom line here is that the premise of the thread is false. It is not now illegal to have people in line waiting to vote provided with food or water. Nor was it proposed to make that illegal.

pjohns
03-28-2021, 12:48 PM
Nope...

McDonald told CNN he is already planning to test the law with some civil disobedience. He said that at a future election his church will dare the police to arrest someone giving water to an elderly person waiting to vote.

Georgia's bill would make it a crime to give free food or water to voters standing in line for hours and hours. But we know who these politicians force to stand in line all day long," Shaub said earlier this month on Twitter (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1366732869163491328). "I've never once stood in line for even five minutes where I get to vote. This racism is thorough."
Presumably, this quote (except for the first word) is an excerpt from elsewhere--although you never actually name the source. (It does, however, mention CNN--a center-left cable-news network--at the beginning. Perhaps this is the source?)

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 12:49 PM
You would rather read liberal spin than the actual bill. Why am I not surprised.
I doubt that she read anything. It's pretty obvious that she's not a reader.

She heard Biden make this dumb claim during his embarrassing press conference and she ran with it.

pjohns
03-28-2021, 12:51 PM
[U]se common sense and don't drink from an opened bottle.

Regrettably, "common sense" appears to be in rather short supply these days...

The Booman
03-28-2021, 01:01 PM
Regrettably, "common sense" appears to be in rather short supply these days...


Like inviting undocumented migrants into the country during a pandemic?

carolina73
03-28-2021, 01:36 PM
Wrong. Cons will vote no matter what. Supporting the candidates they worship mean more to them than anything in the world. You’re desperate at this point and it shows.

Projection.

carolina73
03-28-2021, 01:38 PM
There are more D voters in cities, where lines are longer. Laws that impact people in cities motor will negatively impact democrats more.

You said the lines are longer in Democrat areas but it is Republicans that cannot stop from going out to vote. Holy contradiction!

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 01:40 PM
It's amazing how often Leanne778 discredits her own arguments because she doesn't research a topic before she goes off on one of her rants.

carolina73
03-28-2021, 01:40 PM
They don't have to address them. Just hold out a bottle of water. and see who grabs it.

But I don't think addressing the line changes votes. Nor should anyone else. That is the purported basis for making these changes.

November Election
Votes in Perdue/Ossoff election: 4.8 million

Votes in Warnock/Loefler 4 million

Runoff Election
Votes in Perdue/Ossoff election: 4.49 million

Votes in Warnock/Loefler 4.49 million


As you can see The turn out was pretty close in the Georgia runoff. and in the Warnock election, MORE people voted in the runoff. So why would any one look at this and say "we need less time to vote in runoffs"


Nothing I say? lol. Are you still trying to convince me that people in line can be coerced into changing their votes?

You know that's not true. No one believes that.

Handing people water is not intimidating. It is not persuasion.

Now, I will admit that there is a political motive for giving out water. Democrats believe it will help elect democrats. Not because it persuades people to change their votes. But because it gives people the ability to remain in line and see their votes through. Both dems and republicans. But democrats knew there were more dems in those lines. And so did Republicans. Thats why they dont mind if the lines dissolve.
We are talking about votes actually cast not fake ballots run through after they told poll watchers to go home.

However, you are talking about a single case. That is far from the norm.

carolina73
03-28-2021, 01:42 PM
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210326101157-01-georgia-voting-line-water-snacks-file-super-tease.jpghttps://preview.redd.it/tl5dt32xmep61.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&f1374be5



Trump Rallies prior to October 1st 2020 , conducted without the benefit of masks and social distancing, infected an estimated 30,000 Americans and the responsible for deaths of another 700 according to a Stanford study - but providing water for citizens in Georgia's notoriously long voting lines is considered by conservatives to be a health hazard!

This water ban is so divorced from reality, I can see 1000's of defiant protesters in the next election showing contempt for this law by resorting to civil disobedience by deliberately handing out water

As a "badge of honor," they'll demand to be arrested, fill Georgia's jails and flood the court system with violations for providing free water - holding the Governor and state Republicans up to national scorn and ridicule!
Good for you. I'm sure you see Santa Claus as well.

The Booman
03-28-2021, 01:44 PM
You constant diversion is an indication of immaturity. Are you OK ??

No, he's desperate for attention. He has Captain Obvious Disorder.

carolina73
03-28-2021, 01:47 PM
What if they weren't and were plain bottles of commercially available water or scotch or orange juice? Or a bag of commercially available wise potato chips or a McDonalds burger? Sometimes people have to wait hours on line in order to vote.


Why Do Nonwhite Georgia Voters Have To Wait In Line For Hours? : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/17/924527679/why-do-nonwhite-georgia-voters-have-to-wait-in-line-for-hours-too-few-polling-pl)


I don't know. Why are they non-white. The laws apply equally. The voting stations are not segregated. What are you trying to get at?
Your claiming that contact will be non-political and that scotch won't come with a "a present from... comment". That is unbelievable.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 01:57 PM
This is about elections and Donald trump was in the last presidential election. Like I said, I’m not concerned about your feelings.

Regardless of your warped analogy, this thread ain't about Trump.

Orion Rules
03-28-2021, 02:00 PM
The new Georgia Election laws are appalling!
[...]

Leanne778 two videos worth seeing re: the Georgia law, raising money, voting irregularities, voter confidence, fraud investigations, other:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzoAVL89SPc

"Georgia election official: Both parties treat voters like children"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-h2d5XwGPM

"Gov. Brian Kemp responds to Trump's ongoing criticism in exclusive interview"

carolina73
03-28-2021, 02:02 PM
The bottom line here is that the premise of the thread is false. It is not now illegal to have people in line waiting to vote provided with food or water. Nor was it proposed to make that illegal.

The proposed bill in GA would not allow people within 25 feet of anyone in line as a protection from intimidation or influencing. I'm not sure if it survived since it was just the proposed bill at the time but that is what they are referencing.

In my book that is a great idea.

Peter1469
03-28-2021, 02:07 PM
I think we are at the point that Americans need to marginalize these leftists freaks. They are not a threat. They have too much estrogen.

If they pose a threat, end it, and get on with living the American life.

Let the freaks bray and cry, they are toothless. Like Tish.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 02:08 PM
...This water ban is so divorced from reality,....!
Water ban? Read this law then show us all where it says it's illegal or banned to distribute water to people in line waiting to vote.


I still find it remarkable how Leane778 and garden477 are so similar.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 02:09 PM
Regardless of your warped analogy, this thread ain't about Trump.
LOL, you wish so bad you didn’t have to hear about his choke in the election anymore. But it ain’t happening. :)

Peter1469
03-28-2021, 02:11 PM
The leftists need to be marginalized. If they cause trouble, send them to their homeland in a communist nation.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 02:12 PM
LOL, you wish so bad you didn’t have to hear about his choke in the election anymore. But it ain’t happening. :)

This thread still ain't about Trump.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 02:19 PM
This thread still ain't about Trump.
Guess it is now, since you can’t seem to stop talking about him. ;)

hanger4
03-28-2021, 02:22 PM
Guess it is now, since you can’t seem to stop talking about him. ;)

Projection, thy name is Now_What

Peter1469
03-28-2021, 02:22 PM
Guess it is now, since you can’t seem to stop talking about him. ;)
This guy is a Jet.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 02:23 PM
Projection, thy name is Now_What
You’re doing the same...lol. We about done here?

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 02:25 PM
Ask Gov. Northam.
1) Based on demographic projections, for the first time in 400 years "white" Americans will become a racial minority by 2050 - "visible minorities" which have had a long history of being relegated to 2nd class citizens will now constitute the new majority for the foreseeable future!

2) Instead of positioning itself adapt to this new reality, Republicans, in their infinite wisdom, have make the conscious decision to tie their political fortunes to an erratic, authoritarian, narcissistic, septuagenarian billionaire - with links to white supremacist groups that spearheaded an assault on Capitol Hill!

3) Attempts by Republican Governors, like Georgia's Northam, to reintroduce the 21st version of "Jim Crow" is an open admission that the GDP as it currently exists, has become a political "dinosaur" facing "extinction" - even the most ardent "True Believers" realize that their traditional conservative strongholds in the South and Mid-West are rapidly eroding!

4) Given America's demographics, it makes no economic sense to alienate the nation's new racially mixed majority or side with a political party whose chosen leader is affiliated with white-supremacists and domestic terrorists!

5) After January 6th, many major corporations decided to withhold their financial contributions to the GOP in general and those congressional Republicans who decided to contest the acceptance of the state certified Electoral College vote in particular - American business interests realize that the political winds are shifting and positioning themselves to be on the winning side!

6) That writing is already on the wall when Governor Northam's decided to enact voter suppression legislation will make Georgia a political, economic and social "pariah" state - no corporation wants to be identified or to be seen by the American public supporting a state actively engaged in resurrecting "Jim Crow 2.0!"

hanger4
03-28-2021, 02:32 PM
You’re doing the same...lol. We about done here?

I'm not diverting to Trump, you are, I'm pointing out your diversion.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 02:34 PM
I'm not diverting to Trump, you are, I'm pointing out your diversion.
You’re whining because you’re offended that I brought up your messiah. Then it’s a bunch of childish back and forth. Thing we’re about done here, right? LOL

hanger4
03-28-2021, 02:37 PM
1) Based on demographic projections, for the first time in 400 years "white" Americans will become a racial minority!

2) Instead of positioning itself adapt to this new reality, Republicans, in their infinite wisdom, have make the conscious decision to tie their political fortunes to an erratic, authoritarian, narcissistic, septuagenarian billionaire - with links to white supremacist groups that spearheaded an assault on Capitol Hill!

3) Attempts by Republican Governors, like Georgia's Northam, to reintroduce the 21st version of "Jim Crow" is not only an open admission that conservatives realize that they no longer politically competitive in most of the nation,

4) Given America's demographics, it makes no economic sense to alienate the nation's new racially mixed majority or side with a political party whose chosen leader is affiliated with white-supremacists and domestic terrorists! perspective!

5) After January 6th, many major corporations have decided to withhold their financial contributions to the GOP in general and those congressional Republicans who decided to contest the acceptance of the state certified Electoral College vote in particular!

6) The writing is already on the wall that Governor Northam's decision enact voter suppression legislation will make Georgia a political, economic and social "pariah" state - no corporation will want to invest or be identified with supporting any state that is actively promoting "Jim Crow 2.0!"

Voter suppression, good lord :facepalm:

Amazing how many rely on others to tell them how to think.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 02:39 PM
You’re whining because you’re offended that I brought up your messiah. Then it’s a bunch of childish back and forth. Thing we’re about done here, right? LOL

Calling you out for diversionary tolling isn't whining, it a fact.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 02:41 PM
Calling you out for diversionary tolling isn't whining, it a fact.

Oh no....this many posts to whine about talking about somebody that you don’t want talked about is trolling. LOL

hanger4
03-28-2021, 02:43 PM
Oh no....this many posts to whine about talking about somebody that you don’t want talked about is trolling. LOL

I'm talking about you, and you're now lying.

Now_What
03-28-2021, 02:53 PM
I'm talking about you, and you're now lying.
You about done trolling? This has gotten old, right?

US Conservative
03-28-2021, 02:56 PM
No, that’s your ilk. And I wouldn’t say Russia is third world...

Non responsive gibberish.

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 03:01 PM
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160125114628-donald-trump-quote-shoot-somebody-super-169.jpg
Voter suppression, good lord :facepalm:

Amazing how many rely on others to tell them how to think.

It never fails to amaze that Trump supporters can make these kinds of statements, totally oblivious to the fact that "The Donald" is unwilling to accept any dissenting opinions within the ranks - ask former Vice President Mike Pence!

hanger4
03-28-2021, 03:05 PM
Didn't Donald "the stable genius" Trump once brag that he could literally shoot somebody on 5th Avenue, NYC and his loyal, unquestioning supporters would stay with him!

What has this ^^ got to do with your claims of Republican voter suppression ??

carolina73
03-28-2021, 03:08 PM
What has this ^^ got to do with your claims of Republican voter suppression ??
He can't argue about the subject, so he is trying to play Trivial Pursuit with random card draws.

Orion Rules
03-28-2021, 03:11 PM
1) Based on demographic projections, for the first time in 400 years "white" Americans will become a racial minority by 2050 -...
2) Instead of positioning itself adapt to this new reality, Republicans, in their infinite wisdom, have make the conscious decision to tie their political fortunes to an...billionaire - with links to white supremacist groups that spearheaded an assault on Capitol Hill![...]

It seems they take several things into consideration of who is responsible for continuing Western civilization...

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 03:13 PM
Voter suppression, good lord :facepalm:

Amazing how many rely on others to tell them how to think.


What has this ^^ got to do with your claims of Republican voter suppression ??

1) Apparently "hanger4" feels free to question "how many rely on others to tell them how to think" BUT when the tables are turned and Trump's own quotes referring to the unquestioning loyalty of his supporters are used to refute his comments - the "ground rules" suddenly change!

2) We all know that after 4 years, "The Donald" demands complete and total loyalty - his supporters are well aware that "The Audience of One" surrounds himself only with those more than willing to be told how to think!

3) Trump's legal challenges to the 2020 Election results led by Rudy Giuliani and his legal representation during the 2nd Impeachment demonstrate that despite requests to represent the President, the "BEST PEOPLE" simply refuse to have their reputations tarnished by associating with him!

4) The "BEST PEOPLE" are considered the best because their services are constantly in demand - their reputations are based on their abilities to achieve success by thinking for themselves!

hanger4
03-28-2021, 03:18 PM
You should have read the actual bill instead of relying on CNN, they lied by omission.

gamewell45
03-28-2021, 03:28 PM
I don't know. Why are they non-white. The laws apply equally. The voting stations are not segregated. What are you trying to get at?
Your claiming that contact will be non-political and that scotch won't come with a "a present from... comment". That is unbelievable.

Would you be persuaded to change your vote because someone gave you some water or a drink of scotch?

hanger4
03-28-2021, 03:31 PM
Would you be persuaded to change your vote because someone gave you some water or a drink of scotch?

Nobodies denying them food or water. This thread failed.

MMC
03-28-2021, 03:35 PM
1) Based on demographic projections, for the first time in 400 years "white" Americans will become a racial minority by 2050 - "visible minorities" which have had a long history of being relegated to 2nd class citizens will now constitute the new majority for the foreseeable future!

2) Instead of positioning itself adapt to this new reality, Republicans, in their infinite wisdom, have make the conscious decision to tie their political fortunes to an erratic, authoritarian, narcissistic, septuagenarian billionaire - with links to white supremacist groups that spearheaded an assault on Capitol Hill!

3) Attempts by Republican Governors, like Georgia's Northam, to reintroduce the 21st version of "Jim Crow" is an open admission that the GDP as it currently exists, has become a political "dinosaur" facing "extinction" - even the most ardent "True Believers" realize that their traditional conservative strongholds in the South and Mid-West are rapidly eroding!

4) Given America's demographics, it makes no economic sense to alienate the nation's new racially mixed majority or side with a political party whose chosen leader is affiliated with white-supremacists and domestic terrorists!

5) After January 6th, many major corporations decided to withhold their financial contributions to the GOP in general and those congressional Republicans who decided to contest the acceptance of the state certified Electoral College vote in particular - American business interests realize that the political winds are shifting and positioning themselves to be on the winning side!

6) That writing is already on the wall when Governor Northam's decided to enact voter suppression legislation will make Georgia a political, economic and social "pariah" state - no corporation wants to be identified or to be seen by the American public supporting a state actively engaged in resurrecting "Jim Crow 2.0!"

Georgia's Governor is Kemp. But thanks for validating you didnt know that.


Of course you didnt have the brain capacity to comprehend more Blacks voted for Trump than any other Republican President. More Latino's voted for Trump than any other Republican President.


Small Business drives the economy. The Democrats.....your deviates has caused small business to go out of business. Sucks to be your kind with the next several elections.


The only writing on the wall is how your kind keeps bailing from those Democratic shitholes and your Deviate Party.

MMC
03-28-2021, 03:37 PM
Nobodies denying them food or water. This thread failed.

Well as shown.....New York does. :laugh:

Orion Rules
03-28-2021, 03:37 PM
Sometimes politics is compromise. Law bans outside groups from handing out water or food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZfL-CFXpHo

"Georgia Gov. Kemp defends new voting law"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzoAVL89SPc

"Georgia election official: Both parties treat voters like children"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-h2d5XwGPM

"Gov. Brian Kemp responds to Trump's ongoing criticism in exclusive interview"

gamewell45
03-28-2021, 03:39 PM
Nobodies denying them food or water. This thread failed.

Then why bother to respond? Btw you happen to be wrong.


Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgias-new-election-law-prohibits-giving-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line/ar-BB1f0oWv)

The Booman
03-28-2021, 03:43 PM
Democrats upset they can't be given food an water in a voting line? I guess they are too stupid to plan ahead. Normal Americans who expect a long wait time to vote will plan ahead. Eat and be well hydrated before leaving for the polling station. Maybe even bring a snack and a bottle of water. Common sense folks.

MMC
03-28-2021, 03:45 PM
Then why bother to respond? Btw you happen to be wrong.



Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgias-new-election-law-prohibits-giving-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line/ar-BB1f0oWv)

Your link by MSN citing CNN has been debunked. CNN has been proven that they did their usual and lied. Just like Biden and the rest of team deviants.


So you happen to be wrong. It was a nice try at failure but then you should have read the thread. Oh and the Bill itself.



Let’s take a look at what S.B. 202 actually says (https://legiscan.com/GA/text/SB202/id/2348602/Georgia-2021-SB202-Enrolled.pdf):No person shall solicit votes [or] distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to [a voter] … This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer…from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to [a voter] waiting in line to vote.

The parts in bold are what S.B. 202 added to the statute. The prohibition applies inside polling places, within 150 feet of a polling place, or “within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.”
Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false. What you cannot do under the new Georgia law is deploy people in National Rifle Association t-shirts and MAGA hats to hand out free Koch-brothers-financed, Federalist Society–branded pizza to voters.


In other words, this entire controversy is not about people dropping dead of hunger and thirst on long voting lines at all. It’s about electioneering around the polling place by people looking to advertise that they represent a cause, and who try to influence voters by giving them free stuff. Across the country today, we already have lots of laws against this sort of thing. There is nothing wrong with Georgia trying to limit it.


Minnesota law has a broad ban on approaching voters:No one except an election official or an individual who is waiting to register or to vote or an individual who is conducting exit polling shall stand within 100 feet of the building in which a polling place is located. Minn. Stat. § 204C.06.....snip~


Note that. Democrat governed state.


New York makes “Furnishing money or entertainment to induce attendance at polls” a class A misdemeanor, and explicitly includes handing out “meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision” unless it is worth less than a dollar and the person providing it is not identified:


Any person who…in respect of any election during the hours of voting…gives or provides, or causes to be given or provided, or shall pay, wholly or in part, for any meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision to or for any person, other than [poll workers and other voting officials], except any such meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision having a retail value of less than one dollar, which is given or provided to any person in a polling place without any identification of the person or entity supplying such provisions, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-140.....snip~


Oh my.....Not New York? Not that Demo shithole stopping people from getting food or water in a long line.


Any person who…in respect of any election during the hours of voting…gives or provides, or causes to be given or provided, or shall pay, wholly or in part, for any meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision to or for any person, other than [poll workers and other voting officials], except any such meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision having a retail value of less than one dollar, which is given or provided to any person in a polling place without any identification of the person or entity supplying such provisions, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-140.....snip~



Laws of these sorts have been the product of experience. In 1998, the Supreme Court of Kentucky, in Ellis v. Meeks, threw out the results of a primary election where the winner, Meeks (who prevailed by eight votes) had handed out free food at the polling place, and made it available to voters. The court rejected the argument that this was all harmless because there was no direct evidence that he had changed any votes or had demanded any explicit quid pro quo from voters:At ten of the fifteen voting stations in the 11th Ward, Meeks made free food available to anyone present, glad-handed voters as they entered, and spoke with voters as they signed in to vote. Based upon this evidence, we… hold that Meeks’ non-verbal conduct solicited votes and amounted to electioneering within 500 feet of a building where votes were being cast…We can conceive of no other explanation for his actions…. We find that making free food available to precinct workers and voters was an item of value offered by Meeks in exchange for their votes or moral support in violation of [Kentucky law].


Georgia’s law follows the same line of reasoning: The obvious motive of showing up to hand things directly to voters, rather than just providing them to poll workers to distribute, is to influence their votes.


Is there a problem with voters standing on long lines to vote? Yes, there is (https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/03/22/how-to-secure-elections/), and it tends to fall more heavily on black voters. But unfortunately, in states such as Georgia, the problem of long lines is largely under the control of local Democratic officials rather than the Republicans who run the state, who nonetheless get all the blame from the national media.


While you would not learn this from the Democrats or their sympathetic media coverage, S.B. 202 actually takes steps to fix those long lines. Georgia law previously allowed the state to override local election officials and require them to add more precincts or voting machines if people were left standing on line for an hour after the polls closed. S.B. 202 expands that authority, so that the state can step in and require more polling places or voting machines if voters in overcrowded precincts face lines of an hour or more at any of three measured intervals during the day. Read the new section for yourself:


Instead of allowing electioneering while people wait on long lines, eliminate both the electioneering and the lines. That’s what Joe Biden’s ranting is supposed to distract you from hearing......snip~


Georgia Voter Law: Joe Biden's Criticism Is Off Base | National Review (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/03/joe-biden-botches-the-georgia-voting-law/)






Biden, the Lame Stream Media and leftists arent looking good are they? Of course like Reagan said.....they know so much about what they dont know. Still National Review did make Biden and leftness look like dipshits.


Oh btw.....average bottle of water in New York. LMAO.


Bottle of Water Price in New York 2021 - Cost To Travel (https://www.costtotravel.com/cost/water-in-new-york)

https://www.costtotravel.com/cost/water-in-new-york
7 rows · The price of Bottle of Water (0.5 Litre) in New York, United States is 1.70 USD. Currency.


Ya gotta laugh at leftists and their bullshit about water, food, long lines. As usual its a case of Democrats that don't do that Water, Food, food stuff in their long lines in their Democrat shitholes. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif


Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgias-new-election-law-prohibits-giving-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line/ar-BB1f0oWv)[/QUOTE]



Your link by MSN citing CNN has been debunked. CNN has been proven that they did their usual and lied. Just like Biden and the rest of team deviants.


So you happen to be wrong. It was a nice try at failure but then you should have read the thread. Oh and the Bill itself.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 03:49 PM
1) Apparently "hanger4" feels free to question "how many rely on others to tell them how to think" BUT when the tables are turned and Trump's own quotes referring to the unquestioning loyalty of his supporters are used to refute his comments - the "ground rules" suddenly change!

2) We all know that after 4 years, "The Donald" demands complete and total loyalty - his supporters are well aware that "The Audience of One" surrounds himself only with those more than willing to be told how to think!

3) Trump's legal challenges to the 2020 Election results led by Rudy Giuliani and his legal representation during the 2nd Impeachment demonstrate that despite even as President, the "BEST PEOPLE" simply refuse to have their reputations tarnished by associating with him!

4) The "BEST PEOPLE" are considered the best because their services are constantly in demand - their reputations are based on their abilities to think for themselves!

Apparently "jgarden477" feels the need to toll with "orange man bad" blather regardless of the thread topic.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 03:52 PM
Then why bother to respond? Btw you happen to be wrong.


Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgias-new-election-law-prohibits-giving-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line/ar-BB1f0oWv)

You should read the bill, the salient parts concerning this thread have already been posted. :facepalm:

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 03:55 PM
This guy is a Jet.

Just a bit dumber though.

MMC
03-28-2021, 03:57 PM
But hey, the leftness managed to eek out another 6 pages to this falsehood, the outright lie by Slow Joe, CNN, and Leftists. Wherein they can add to the outright lie and falsehood. Deflect to other BS like the Garden Party does.


Of course they will still try to carry on the lie. Try and get more leftist dupes and mopes to repeat the lie. So that they can feel that it is real.


I know Charlie Kirk says to mentor the left. Teach them. But you can't teach a dumb downed idiot class of people. They have to obtain self realization themsleves.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 03:59 PM
Then why bother to respond? Btw you happen to be wrong.


Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgias-new-election-law-prohibits-giving-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line/ar-BB1f0oWv)

It does not ban or outlaw providing food or water to people in line waiting to vote. That is a misrepresentation of the truth. Something we have become accustomed to seeing from some here.

MMC
03-28-2021, 04:02 PM
One last time.....From FindersKeeper's Post on what is actually in the bill. This for all you uhm erm, self alleged intelligent leftists.




1872 "(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any
1873 person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,
1874 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and
1875 drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any
1876 person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables
1877 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
1878 (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is
1879 established;


The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.


"(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1889 line to vote."


Your claim that they're "waiting in line for hours" is also bullshit. The bill is adding more Saturday and Sunday voting days to reduce in-line waiting so more can vote.


More than 100 counties have never offered voting on Sunday
87 and many counties offered only a single day of weekend voting. Requiring two Saturday
88 voting days and two optional Sunday voting days will dramatically increase the total voting
89 hours for voters across the State of Georgia, and all electors in Georgia will have access
90 to multiple opportunities to vote in person on the weekend for the first time;


In addition, precincts where voters have to stand in line for JUST ONE HOUR will have to be reorganized to reduce voter waiting time.


If, at the previous general election, a precinct contained more than 2,000 electors and
722 if electors desiring to vote on the day of the election had to wait in line for more than one
723 hour before checking in to vote, the superintendent shall either reduce the size of such
724 precinct so that it shall contain not more than 2,000 electors in accordance with the
725 procedures prescribed by this chapter for the division, alteration, and consolidation of
726 precincts no later than 60 days before the next general election or provide additional voting
727 equipment or poll workers, or both, before the next general election.


In short -- the Georgia bill will encourage more in-person voting by reducing waiting time and by not allowing outsiders to pressure those waiting in line to vote.....snip~


Make note of that Leftists. Its called reality. That which you are not part of.


/ thread!!!!!!

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 04:07 PM
It does not ban or outlaw providing food or water to people in line waiting to vote. That is a misrepresentation of the truth. Something we have become accustomed to seeing from some here.

Georgia Law SB 202 (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121) - "[n]o person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector ... on any day in which ballots are being cast."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545120-georgia-law-makes-it-a-crime-to-give-water-to-people-waiting-to-vote (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545120-georgia-law-makes-it-a-crime-to-give-water-to-people-waiting-to-vote)

************************************************** ***********************************************

".. nor shall any person give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector ..." - what part of Georgia Law SB 202 doesn't "Tahuyaman" understand?

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 04:10 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545120-georgia-law-makes-it-a-crime-to-give-water-to-people-waiting-to-vote
It does not ban the distribution of food or water to people in line waiting to vote. It regulates who can do it.


Sheesh.

MMC
03-28-2021, 04:12 PM
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545120-georgia-law-makes-it-a-crime-to-give-water-to-people-waiting-to-vote

Georgia (https://legiscan.com/GA) Senate Bill 202
Status: (Passed) 2021-03-25 - Effective Date [SB202 Detail] (https://legiscan.com/GA/bill/SB202/2021)

Download: Georgia-2021-SB202-Enrolled.pdf (https://legiscan.com/GA/text/SB202/id/2348602/Georgia-2021-SB202-Enrolled.pdf)


Bill Text: GA SB202 | 2021-2022 | Regular Session | Enrolled | LegiScan (https://legiscan.com/GA/text/SB202/id/2348602)



http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/pointlaugh.gif

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 04:34 PM
1807 SECTION 33.


1808 Said chapter is further amended by revising subsections (a) and (e) of Code
1809 Section 21-2-414, relating to restrictions on campaign activities and public opinion polling
1810 within the vicinity of a polling place, cellular phone use prohibited, prohibition of candidates
1811 from entering certain polling places, and penalty, as follows:

1812 "(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any
1813 person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,
1814 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and
1815 drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any
1816 person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables
1817 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
1818 (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is
1819 established;
1820 (2) Within any polling place; or
1821 (3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.
1822 These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or areas which
1823 cannot be seen or heard by such electors."


1824 "(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1825 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1826 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1827 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted in
1828 or from (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121)making (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121) available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting
1829 line to vote."


https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121 (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121)

The legislation expressly prohibits electors from receiving food and water in line or not election related interests from setting up booths within prescribed distances, but does allow Secretary of State the discretion of making self-service available from an unattended receptacle!

hanger4
03-28-2021, 04:52 PM
1807 SECTION 33.
1808 Said chapter is further amended by revising subsections (a) and (e) of Code1809 Section 21-2-414, relating to restrictions on campaign activities and public opinion polling1810 within the vicinity of a polling place, cellular phone use prohibited, prohibition of candidates1811 from entering certain polling places, and penalty, as follows:


1812 "(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any1813 person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,1814 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and1815 drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any1816 person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables1817 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:1818 (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is1819 established;1820 (2) Within any polling place; or1821 (3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.1822 These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or areas which1823 cannot be seen or heard by such electors."


1824 "(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing1825 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors1826 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely1827 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted in1828 or from making (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121) available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting
1829 line to vote."





https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121 (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121)

* or from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting
1829 line to vote.*

You posted it ^^. Reading comprehension is essential. The voters in line are not being denied water or food.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 05:04 PM
I wonder if the leftness can explain why their Democrats have those long lines to vote in Atlanta. Why are the Democrats suppressing the Black vote. Someone need, to ask the racist bat shit crazy Gapped tooth Abrams about that, huh?

Ask the Secretary of State, a republican.
Stacy Abrams is not in charge.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 05:07 PM
* or from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting
1829 line to vote.*

You posted it ^^. Reading comprehension is essential. The voters in line are not being denied water or food.

That's only allowed if a polling official chooses to do it.

Reading comprehension is essential.

MMC
03-28-2021, 05:12 PM
Ask the Secretary of State, a republican.
Stacy Abrams is not in charge.


Reading is fun and mental......Also quite simple.



Is there a problem with voters standing on long lines to vote? Yes, there is (https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/03/22/how-to-secure-elections/), and it tends to fall more heavily on black voters. But unfortunately, in states such as Georgia, the problem of long lines is largely under the control of local Democratic officials rather than the Republicans who run the state, who nonetheless get all the blame from the national media.


While you would not learn this from the Democrats or their sympathetic media coverage, S.B. 202 actually takes steps to fix those long lines. Georgia law previously allowed the state to override local election officials and require them to add more precincts or voting machines if people were left standing on line for an hour after the polls closed. S.B. 202 expands that authority, so that the state can step in and require more polling places or voting machines if voters in overcrowded precincts face lines of an hour or more at any of three measured intervals during the day. Read the new section for yourself:.....snip~

Try harder with the Assuming. I applaud your failure! 36314

MMC
03-28-2021, 05:14 PM
* or from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting
1829 line to vote.*

You posted it ^^. Reading comprehension is essential. The voters in line are not being denied water or food.

:wink:



Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false. What you cannot do under the new Georgia law is deploy people in National Rifle Association t-shirts and MAGA hats to hand out free Koch-brothers-financed, Federalist Society–branded pizza to voters.


In other words, this entire controversy is not about people dropping dead of hunger and thirst on long voting lines at all. It’s about electioneering around the polling place by people looking to advertise that they represent a cause, and who try to influence voters by giving them free stuff. Across the country today, we already have lots of laws against this sort of thing. There is nothing wrong with Georgia trying to limit it......snip~


/thread!!!!!

gamewell45
03-28-2021, 05:18 PM
Your link by MSN citing CNN has been debunked. CNN has been proven that they did their usual and lied. Just like Biden and the rest of team deviants.


So you happen to be wrong. It was a nice try at failure but then you should have read the thread. Oh and the Bill itself.



Let’s take a look at what S.B. 202 actually says (https://legiscan.com/GA/text/SB202/id/2348602/Georgia-2021-SB202-Enrolled.pdf):No person shall solicit votes [or] distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to [a voter] … This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer…from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to [a voter] waiting in line to vote.

The parts in bold are what S.B. 202 added to the statute. The prohibition applies inside polling places, within 150 feet of a polling place, or “within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.”
Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false. What you cannot do under the new Georgia law is deploy people in National Rifle Association t-shirts and MAGA hats to hand out free Koch-brothers-financed, Federalist Society–branded pizza to voters.


In other words, this entire controversy is not about people dropping dead of hunger and thirst on long voting lines at all. It’s about electioneering around the polling place by people looking to advertise that they represent a cause, and who try to influence voters by giving them free stuff. Across the country today, we already have lots of laws against this sort of thing. There is nothing wrong with Georgia trying to limit it.


Minnesota law has a broad ban on approaching voters:No one except an election official or an individual who is waiting to register or to vote or an individual who is conducting exit polling shall stand within 100 feet of the building in which a polling place is located. Minn. Stat. § 204C.06.....snip~


Note that. Democrat governed state.


New York makes “Furnishing money or entertainment to induce attendance at polls” a class A misdemeanor, and explicitly includes handing out “meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision” unless it is worth less than a dollar and the person providing it is not identified:


Any person who…in respect of any election during the hours of voting…gives or provides, or causes to be given or provided, or shall pay, wholly or in part, for any meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision to or for any person, other than [poll workers and other voting officials], except any such meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision having a retail value of less than one dollar, which is given or provided to any person in a polling place without any identification of the person or entity supplying such provisions, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-140.....snip~


Oh my.....Not New York? Not that Demo $#@!hole stopping people from getting food or water in a long line.


Any person who…in respect of any election during the hours of voting…gives or provides, or causes to be given or provided, or shall pay, wholly or in part, for any meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision to or for any person, other than [poll workers and other voting officials], except any such meat, drink, tobacco, refreshment or provision having a retail value of less than one dollar, which is given or provided to any person in a polling place without any identification of the person or entity supplying such provisions, is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. N.Y. Elec. Law § 17-140.....snip~



Laws of these sorts have been the product of experience. In 1998, the Supreme Court of Kentucky, in Ellis v. Meeks, threw out the results of a primary election where the winner, Meeks (who prevailed by eight votes) had handed out free food at the polling place, and made it available to voters. The court rejected the argument that this was all harmless because there was no direct evidence that he had changed any votes or had demanded any explicit quid pro quo from voters:At ten of the fifteen voting stations in the 11th Ward, Meeks made free food available to anyone present, glad-handed voters as they entered, and spoke with voters as they signed in to vote. Based upon this evidence, we… hold that Meeks’ non-verbal conduct solicited votes and amounted to electioneering within 500 feet of a building where votes were being cast…We can conceive of no other explanation for his actions…. We find that making free food available to precinct workers and voters was an item of value offered by Meeks in exchange for their votes or moral support in violation of [Kentucky law].


Georgia’s law follows the same line of reasoning: The obvious motive of showing up to hand things directly to voters, rather than just providing them to poll workers to distribute, is to influence their votes.


Is there a problem with voters standing on long lines to vote? Yes, there is (https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/03/22/how-to-secure-elections/), and it tends to fall more heavily on black voters. But unfortunately, in states such as Georgia, the problem of long lines is largely under the control of local Democratic officials rather than the Republicans who run the state, who nonetheless get all the blame from the national media.


While you would not learn this from the Democrats or their sympathetic media coverage, S.B. 202 actually takes steps to fix those long lines. Georgia law previously allowed the state to override local election officials and require them to add more precincts or voting machines if people were left standing on line for an hour after the polls closed. S.B. 202 expands that authority, so that the state can step in and require more polling places or voting machines if voters in overcrowded precincts face lines of an hour or more at any of three measured intervals during the day. Read the new section for yourself:


Instead of allowing electioneering while people wait on long lines, eliminate both the electioneering and the lines. That’s what Joe Biden’s ranting is supposed to distract you from hearing......snip~


Georgia Voter Law: Joe Biden's Criticism Is Off Base | National Review (https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/03/joe-biden-botches-the-georgia-voting-law/)






Biden, the Lame Stream Media and leftists arent looking good are they? Of course like Reagan said.....they know so much about what they dont know. Still National Review did make Biden and leftness look like dipshits.


Oh btw.....average bottle of water in New York. LMAO.


Bottle of Water Price in New York 2021 - Cost To Travel (https://www.costtotravel.com/cost/water-in-new-york)

https://www.costtotravel.com/cost/water-in-new-york
7 rows · The price of Bottle of Water (0.5 Litre) in New York, United States is 1.70 USD. Currency.


Ya gotta laugh at leftists and their bull$#@! about water, food, long lines. As usual its a case of Democrats that don't do that Water, Food, food stuff in their long lines in their Democrat $#@!holes. http://www.debatepolitics.com/images/smilies/lmfao.gif


Georgia's new election law prohibits giving food and water to voters in line (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/georgias-new-election-law-prohibits-giving-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line/ar-BB1f0oWv)



Your link by MSN citing CNN has been debunked. CNN has been proven that they did their usual and lied. Just like Biden and the rest of team deviants.


So you happen to be wrong. It was a nice try at failure but then you should have read the thread. Oh and the Bill itself.[/QUOTE]

I can only tell you what I read that which is printed; did CNN put their spin on it? Quite possibly. I don't know who to believe, however I will go to the state of Georgia's website and read the law as printed & decide who is telling the truth and who is lying.

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 05:20 PM
Georgia Law SB 202 (https://www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121) - "[n]o person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector ... on any day in which ballots are being cast."

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545120-georgia-law-makes-it-a-crime-to-give-water-to-people-waiting-to-vote (https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/545120-georgia-law-makes-it-a-crime-to-give-water-to-people-waiting-to-vote)

************************************************** ***********************************************

".. nor shall any person give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector ..." - what part of Georgia Law SB 202 doesn't "Tahuyaman" understand?

Right. A campaign can't solicit votes votes by providing money, gifts, to include food and water. That in no way bans civic organizations or other organizations which do not promote a political cause from providing water to people in line waiting to doing this. WTF don't you understand about that?

MMC
03-28-2021, 05:23 PM
Your link by MSN citing CNN has been debunked. CNN has been proven that they did their usual and lied. Just like Biden and the rest of team deviants.


So you happen to be wrong. It was a nice try at failure but then you should have read the thread. Oh and the Bill itself.

I can only tell you what I read that which is printed; did CNN put their spin on it? Quite possibly. I don't know who to believe, however I will go to the state of Georgia's website and read the law as printed & decide who is telling the truth and who is lying.[/QUOTE]

Georgia (https://legiscan.com/GA) Senate Bill 202
Status: (Passed) 2021-03-25 - Effective Date [SB202 Detail] (https://legiscan.com/GA/bill/SB202/2021)

Download: Georgia-2021-SB202-Enrolled.pdf (https://legiscan.com/GA/text/SB202/id/2348602/Georgia-2021-SB202-Enrolled.pdf)


Bill Text: GA SB202 | 2021-2022 | Regular Session | Enrolled | LegiScan (https://legiscan.com/GA/text/SB202/id/2348602)





872 "(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any
1873 person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give,
1874 or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and
1875 drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any
1876 person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables
1877 or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:
1878 (1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is
1879 established;


The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.


"(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1889 line to vote."


Your claim that they're "waiting in line for hours" is also bullshit. The bill is adding more Saturday and Sunday voting days to reduce in-line waiting so more can vote.


More than 100 counties have never offered voting on Sunday
87 and many counties offered only a single day of weekend voting. Requiring two Saturday
88 voting days and two optional Sunday voting days will dramatically increase the total voting
89 hours for voters across the State of Georgia, and all electors in Georgia will have access
90 to multiple opportunities to vote in person on the weekend for the first time;


In addition, precincts where voters have to stand in line for JUST ONE HOUR will have to be reorganized to reduce voter waiting time.


If, at the previous general election, a precinct contained more than 2,000 electors and
722 if electors desiring to vote on the day of the election had to wait in line for more than one
723 hour before checking in to vote, the superintendent shall either reduce the size of such
724 precinct so that it shall contain not more than 2,000 electors in accordance with the
725 procedures prescribed by this chapter for the division, alteration, and consolidation of
726 precincts no later than 60 days before the next general election or provide additional voting
727 equipment or poll workers, or both, before the next general election.


In short -- the Georgia bill will encourage more in-person voting by reducing waiting time and by not allowing outsiders to pressure those waiting in line to vote.....snip~



Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false. What you cannot do under the new Georgia law is deploy people in National Rifle Association t-shirts and MAGA hats to hand out free Koch-brothers-financed, Federalist Society–branded pizza to voters.


In other words, this entire controversy is not about people dropping dead of hunger and thirst on long voting lines at all. It’s about electioneering around the polling place by people looking to advertise that they represent a cause, and who try to influence voters by giving them free stuff. Across the country today, we already have lots of laws against this sort of thing. There is nothing wrong with Georgia trying to limit it......snip~


/thread!!!!!

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 05:24 PM
Ask the Secretary of State, a republican.
Stacy Abrams is not in charge.

Tell her that. She still thinks she's the governor.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 05:26 PM
Nobodies denying them food or water. This thread failed.

You've been in line for 4 hours. Your wife finds you in line and hands you a sandwich. She is promptly handcuffed and charged with a felony.

And you say no one is denying food and water? Are polling officials gonna bring you snacks? When has that ever happened?

MMC
03-28-2021, 05:31 PM
You've been in line for 4 hours. Your wife finds you in line and hands you a sandwich. She is promptly handcuffed and charged with a felony.....snip~


Note that assuming not based in reality.


The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.


"(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1889 line to vote."



Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false.



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Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 05:34 PM
You've been in line for 4 hours. Your wife finds you in line and hands you a sandwich. She is promptly handcuffed and charged with a felony.

And you say no one is denying food and water? Are polling officials gonna bring you snacks? When has that ever happened?


This is meant to deter democrat voters with long lines and no way to endure hot Georgia sun.

This is a way to legally cheat in elections. If you can't see it, you are a fool or a troll, or in a state of denial. Republicans win by suppression.
This bill does not prohibit non political operations from providing water to people in line waiting to vote.


It doesn't prohibit someone's wife from giving her husband a sandwich.


It doesnt prohibit someone from having a Jimmy John's sandwich delivered.


It doesn't prohibit a church group handing out food or water.


It only prohibit candidates from soliciting votes in this manner.




Is there one liberal here who can prevent an honest argument? I'm guessing the answer to that is "no."

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 05:37 PM
This is your answer???


ONLY polling officials can do it. And only if they happen to feel like being charitable.

Voters must rely on polling officials to give them food/water?

When does that ever happen???

you need a better response than this crap.


So far you fail.




You've been in line for 4 hours. Your wife finds you in line and hands you a sandwich. She is promptly handcuffed and charged with a felony.....snip~


Note that assuming not based in reality.


The bill goes on to state the polling officer can provide water.


"(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1889 line to vote."



Now, first of all, notice what is not prohibited here. Voters can still bring bottled water or other food or beverages with them to stand on line to vote, as people often do when waiting at Disney World or to buy concert tickets or in other public places where people stand on long lines. Voters can still also, if they like, order food; the bill doesn’t stop the Domino’s Pizza man or the local hot dog cart or taco truck from doing business. And if you feel impelled to donate food and drink to voters, you can still do that, too; you just have to give it to the poll workers so they can put it out for general use. The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false.



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hanger4
03-28-2021, 05:37 PM
That's only allowed if a polling official chooses to do it.

Reading comprehension is essential.

*It's now illegal in Georgia to give food and water to voters in line*

CNN lied TLG

Tahuyaman
03-28-2021, 05:40 PM
This is your answer???


ONLY polling officials can do it. And only if they happen to feel like being charitable.

Voters must rely on polling officials to give them food/water?

When does that ever happen???

I you need a better response than this crap.


So far you fail.
You made a fool of yourself with the idea that it's a felony for a womam to give her husband a sandwich. Stop before you say something even dumber.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 05:50 PM
You've been in line for 4 hours. Your wife finds you in line and hands you a sandwich. She is promptly handcuffed and charged with a felony.

And you say no one is denying food and water? Are polling officials gonna bring you snacks? When has that ever happened?


This bill does not prohibit non political operations from providing water to people in line waiting to vote.


It doesn't prohibit someone's wife from giving her husband a sandwich.


It doesnt prohibit someone from having a Jimmy John's sandwich delivered.


It doesn't prohibit a church group handing out food or water.


It only prohibit candidates from soliciting votes in this manner.




Is there one liberal here who can prevent an honest argument? I'm guessing the answer to that is "no."

Peter1469
03-28-2021, 05:55 PM
Leftists need to be expelled from the United States. Let them chose their destination, but tax their assets as they GTFO.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 07:19 PM
*It's now illegal in Georgia to give food and water to voters in line*
CNN lied TLG


So ONLY an election official can do it, and only if he feels like it, and only if they have a budget to do it, and only water is allowed, and only if it is left in an unattended receptacle, and only if its a full moon, and venus and mars are aligned.


Oh boy! Looks like you got me cold, hanger.


You are being utterly ridiculous.


There will be no food or water for Georgia voters in line. And we can all see it.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 07:24 PM
So ONLY an election official can do it, and only if he feels like it, and only if they have a budget to do it, and only water is allowed, and only if it is left in an unattended receptacle, and only if its a full moon, and venus and mars are aligned.


Oh boy! Looks like you got me cold, hanger.


You are being utterly ridiculous.


There will be no food or water for Georgia voters in line. And we can all see it.

Untrue TLG and CNN still lied.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 07:55 PM
Untrue TLG and CNN still lied.

What part is untrue?

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 07:58 PM
https://thepoliticalforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Tahuyaman https://thepoliticalforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (https://thepoliticalforums.com/showthread.php?p=3215892#post3215892)
This bill does not prohibit non political operations from providing water to people in line waiting to vote.


It doesn't prohibit someone's wife from giving her husband a sandwich.


It doesnt prohibit someone from having a Jimmy John's sandwich delivered.


It doesn't prohibit a church group handing out food or water.


It only prohibit candidates from soliciting votes in this manner.




Is there one liberal here who can prevent an honest argument? I'm guessing the answer to that is "no."





@hanger4 (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=403)

citation needed

The Booman
03-28-2021, 08:06 PM
Projection.
Basic trolling.

Orion Rules
03-28-2021, 08:11 PM
...There will be no food or water for Georgia voters in line. And we can all see it.

All voters are treated the same so the law is not biased or racist. Some may want to use the law as a reason they feel they have a right to riot. It seems to have become a typical response from a certain camp of malcontents. Sure, let's keep stirring the pot.

carolina73
03-28-2021, 08:15 PM
Your talking about a state where The Resident Elect told voters they would get $2000 each for voting for the two Democrats and they would get nothing if they voted for Republicans.

And the left questions the ethics of Democrats? LOL

A bill that tries to keep both parties from intimidating or influencing voters in line would be the correct thing to do. Tally is right. A wife can still bring her husband a sandwich, but this is not to keep just candidates away. It is to keep political activists away.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 08:16 PM
What part is untrue?

"So ONLY an election official can do it,"

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 08:17 PM
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector,"



This bill does not prohibit non political operations from providing water to people in line waiting to vote.
As long as the operation does not employ persons.


It doesn't prohibit someone's wife from giving her husband a sandwich.
As long as your wife is not a person.

It doesnt prohibit someone from having a Jimmy John's sandwich delivered.
As long as the delivery guy is not a person

It doesn't prohibit a church group handing out food or water.
As long as the church group is not comprised of persons

It only prohibit candidates from soliciting votes in this manner.
Did you read the text of the law???



Is there one liberal here who can prevent an honest argument? I'm guessing the answer to that is "no."

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 08:20 PM
"So ONLY an election official can do it,"

Have I misread the text of the law or have you?

see post #157 (https://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/138678-It-s-now-illegal-in-Georgia-to-give-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line?p=3216049&viewfull=1#post3216049)

hanger4
03-28-2021, 08:29 PM
Have I misread the text of the law or have you?

see post #157 (https://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/138678-It-s-now-illegal-in-Georgia-to-give-food-and-water-to-voters-in-line?p=3216049&viewfull=1#post3216049)

*No person shall solicit votes in any manner* then it listed the ways. If ones not soliciting votes such as a wife, food service delivery, charity group and so on then not a problem.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 08:31 PM
Reading is fun and mental......Also quite simple.



Is there a problem with voters standing on long lines to vote? Yes, there is (https://www.nationalreview.com/magazine/2021/03/22/how-to-secure-elections/), and it tends to fall more heavily on black voters. But unfortunately, in states such as Georgia, the problem of long lines is largely under the control of local Democratic officials rather than the Republicans who run the state, who nonetheless get all the blame from the national media.


While you would not learn this from the Democrats or their sympathetic media coverage, S.B. 202 actually takes steps to fix those long lines. Georgia law previously allowed the state to override local election officials and require them to add more precincts or voting machines if people were left standing on line for an hour after the polls closed. S.B. 202 expands that authority, so that the state can step in and require more polling places or voting machines if voters in overcrowded precincts face lines of an hour or more at any of three measured intervals during the day. Read the new section for yourself:.....snip~

Try harder with the Assuming. I applaud your failure! 36314

Whether or not democrat officials are afforded the resources by their Republican overlords is another question.

The law allows the SoS to take over local election offices to add more polling places, OR to take them away, OR to overide the decision of local officials to certify a vote count just like Republicans wanted to do in 2020 but couldn't.

hanger4
03-28-2021, 08:31 PM
BTW TheLiquidGuy CNN still lied.

Mini Me
03-28-2021, 08:58 PM
Nope...

McDonald told CNN he is already planning to test the law with some civil disobedience. He said that at a future election his church will dare the police to arrest someone giving water to an elderly person waiting to vote.

Georgia's bill would make it a crime to give free food or water to voters standing in line for hours and hours. But we know who these politicians force to stand in line all day long," Shaub said earlier this month on Twitter (https://twitter.com/waltshaub/status/1366732869163491328). "I've never once stood in line for even five minutes where I get to vote. This racism is thorough."


This is inhumane! Only evil Rethuglirats are so devious to come up with it!
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TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 09:00 PM
*No person shall solicit votes in any manner* then it listed the ways. If ones not soliciting votes such as a wife, food service delivery, charity group and so on then not a problem.

I see what you are saying.


I believe you are misreading it.


Every time you see "nor" it breaks off with the previous directive and starts a new one.

If what you are saying were true it would have said it like so...

No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method,
nor shall any person including but not limited to distribution or display of any campaign material,
nor shall any person give, offering to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector,"



It is easy to see that you should be reading this as a list of seperate directives, not a list of seperate methods.

Mini Me
03-28-2021, 09:00 PM
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p180x540/165918118_3922509954499178_2007181191321511338_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=mtKIZ-8IkIsAX_HQOfM&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&tp=6&oh=d7e03519677b531d6863be8bde63919c&oe=6084FFBA

Mini Me
03-28-2021, 09:05 PM
The Truth!
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p552x414/166663933_1423664831305928_3712324980123355724_o.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=KaUwkfuZk04AX9e8v_b&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&tp=6&oh=13c9be0a603282e81101bb329671ad6e&oe=608532BE

Mini Me
03-28-2021, 09:08 PM
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TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 09:08 PM
BTW @TheLiquidGuy (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3411) CNN still lied.

You have a extraordinarily weak case for assigning a lie to CNN on this.

You misread the text of the law.

The only person who can give water to people in line are election officials. And that's only if the planets are aligned.

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 09:10 PM
The Truth!
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p552x414/166663933_1423664831305928_3712324980123355724_o.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=KaUwkfuZk04AX9e8v_b&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&tp=6&oh=13c9be0a603282e81101bb329671ad6e&oe=608532BE

lol. classic.

put this in the political cartoons thread.

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 09:18 PM
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/6b/26bace6c-75ca-547d-b882-298a11883a97/5c00b0517877b.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C780

BTW @TheLiquidGuy (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=3411) CNN still lied.

Given Trump's 30,000+ documented falsehoods in 4 years, when did his supporters suddenly develop an aversion to lying!

Speaking of lying, have Republican politicians in Georgia actually produced documented proof that electors being accosted in lines is a problem that actually warrants this kind of legislation!

If compelling evidence existed, one would presume that state Republicans would have already produced it in an effort to deflect nationwide criticism!

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 09:38 PM
If compelling evidence existed [of people campaigning in the voter line], one would presume that state Republicans would have already produced it in an effort to deflect nationwide criticism!

so true

TheLiquidGuy
03-28-2021, 09:49 PM
In Georgia, everyone knows that minorities voting lines are always longer than in white districts.


"Among polling places where minorities made up over 90 percent ofregistered voters, 36 percent were forced to stay open over one hourpast the specified closing time in order to accommodate long lines. Inthe Atlanta metro area, 45 percent of such polling places were forced todo so. Among polling places where whites made up over 90 percent ofregistered voters, less than 3 percent of polling places were required tostay open late in order to accommodate long lines.
o In polling places where minorities constituted more than 90 percent ofactive registered voters, the average minimum wait time in the eveningwas 51 minutes. When whites constituted more than 90 percent ofregistered voters, the average was around six minutes."


https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/08/Expert-Report_Long-Lines.pdf

jgarden477
03-28-2021, 09:57 PM
https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BHH44EZA2NE6NOV55NUX42NZQU.jpg
It's now illegal in Georgia to give food and water to voters in line

Ironically, was President Donald Trump that made polling stations, particularly in those areas with large "visible-minority" populations, as potential targets for conflict when he urged his Republican supporters to actively monitor them for voter fraud!

This has all the earmarks of a self-fulfilling prophecy - there's something disingenuous about the same political party whose leader was responsible for making the nation's polling stations points of confrontation in the 2020 Election, suddenly stepping in to remedy a problem of their own making!

There also doesn't appear to be anything explicit in the Georgia legislation that protects those in line and voting officials from being intimidated by gangs of Trump supporters circulating in and around polling station posing as scrutineers - aggressively challenging everyone for suspected voter fraud!

If Trump supporters, including "whiting supremacist" groups, were more than capable of storming and occupying Capitol Hill for hours, injuring 150 officers, why should we be surprised if they were to employ the same tactics directed at polling stations around the nation!

We are already well-aware that his supporters in this Forum are more than prepared to justify anything done in his name!

Orion Rules
03-28-2021, 10:19 PM
So when do the riots begin?

Orion Rules
03-28-2021, 11:37 PM
https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BHH44EZA2NE6NOV55NUX42NZQU.jpg
It's now illegal in Georgia to give food and water to voters in line

If Trump supporters, including "whiting supremacist" groups, were more than capable of storming and occupying Capitol Hill for hours...

Antifa and BLM have wrecked parts of one of the most beautiful cities in the whole world: Portland, Oregon. It was too white and successful so targeted for destruction. The terrorist insurrectionists can make threats, trespass, occupy, assault, destroy property to fulfill a violent revolution, but it's an idea whose time has come! Don't miss the latest coverage from Mr. Andy Ngo on the Antifa and BLM regimes:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo

The Booman
03-28-2021, 11:45 PM
So, what have we learned? Democrats can't go an hour or two without a drink and a nosh and that is proof of systemic racism. If the democrats really want to maintain control all they have to do is offer a pro American agenda. Not this racially charged doom and gloom they have been peddling for decades.

Tahuyaman
03-29-2021, 01:09 AM
"No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector,"
You're clueless.

Tahuyaman
03-29-2021, 01:10 AM
Liberals are idiots. There are actually people here claiming that if a woman gives her husband a cup of coffee as he's waiting in line to vote, this bill makes that a felony crime.

The people who make these claims are so stupid, they couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the sole.


There's no use trying to engage those idiots in a discussion. It's a drill in futility. Even Leanne was smart enough to back out of this one.

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 01:48 AM
There are actually people here claiming that if a woman gives her husband a cup of coffee as he's waiting in line to vote, this bill makes that a felony crime.

That's right Tahu.

I am claiming that.

But also the government of Georgia is claiming that in their newest statute...


"...nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink,..."





The people who make these claims are so stupid, they couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were written on the sole.

I have to admit. I do feel stupid for bothering to respond to your gas lighting.


There's no use trying to engage those idiots in a discussion. It's a drill in futility. Even Leanne was smart enough to back out of this one.

I just provided you with a quote of the statute demonstrating that you are wrong. What have you provided us with? Your feelings?

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 01:50 AM
You're clueless.

You're clueless.

DGUtley
03-29-2021, 03:30 AM
Being pampered? Hardly. I'm thinking about the elderly or disabled moron.


NOTICE Leeanne778 THREADBANNED for insults and bad faith posting

The Booman
03-29-2021, 03:58 AM
Being pampered? Hardly. I'm thinking about the elderly or disabled moron.
Disabled people can't go more than an hour without having bite to eat? Interesting argument.

The Booman
03-29-2021, 03:59 AM
You're clueless.


Just a democrat hack who has sold his soul for the party.

FindersKeepers
03-29-2021, 04:16 AM
"...nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink,..."




...withing 150 feet of the building...

You conveniently forgot that part.
Yet, just below that clause it states that poll workers will make water available at self-serve stations, and earlier in the bill, it states that they're opening up additional Saturdays and Sundays for voting to accommodate more voters. It also states that no one should wait less than one hour in line to vote.

Liberals are back to picking out one or two words from an entire bill and trying to twist them into something they aren't.

The GA bill makes it easier to vote -- not harder.

Admiral Ackbar
03-29-2021, 04:46 AM
This is the ultimate left wing pearl clutching concern. How about this. bring our own bottle of water and granola bar? I am sure the Food Stamps are good for that! Only the leftist and their slaves expect a hand out everywhere they go!

stjames1_53
03-29-2021, 05:32 AM
In Georgia, everyone knows that minorities voting lines are always longer than in white districts.

"Among polling places where minorities made up over 90 percent ofregistered voters, 36 percent were forced to stay open over one hourpast the specified closing time in order to accommodate long lines. Inthe Atlanta metro area, 45 percent of such polling places were forced todo so. Among polling places where whites made up over 90 percent ofregistered voters, less than 3 percent of polling places were required tostay open late in order to accommodate long lines.
o In polling places where minorities constituted more than 90 percent ofactive registered voters, the average minimum wait time in the eveningwas 51 minutes. When whites constituted more than 90 percent ofregistered voters, the average was around six minutes."


https://www.democracydocket.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/45/2020/08/Expert-Report_Long-Lines.pdf

"In Georgia, everyone knows.." .....really? Now you're speaking for an entire state?
"...minorities voting lines are always longer than in white districts." You should be glad that more minorities are voting than whites.

Peter1469
03-29-2021, 05:35 AM
"In Georgia, everyone knows.." .....really? Now you're speaking for an entire state?
"...minorities voting lines are always longer than in white districts." You should be glad that more minorities are voting than whites.
And these are democrat controlled districts. Why don't the open more polling locations? Or manage the process better to limit lines.

Why does the "media" let them get away with blaming republicans for these local issues?

stjames1_53
03-29-2021, 05:40 AM
And these are democrat controlled districts. Why don't the open more polling locations? Or manage the process better to limit lines.

Why does the "media" let them get away with blaming republicans for these local issues?

If I follow TLG's line of thought, you would think minorities have a separate voting line. Some how I fail to believe that..........

MMC
03-29-2021, 05:56 AM
This is your answer???


ONLY polling officials can do it. And only if they happen to feel like being charitable.

Voters must rely on polling officials to give them food/water?

When does that ever happen???

you need a better response than this crap.


So far you fail.

The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false......snip~


National Review was being kind saying the President's claim is false. Means Joey lied again. :laugh:


The only one that has failed.....is you and your assuming bullshit.


Only polling Officials can do it. LMAO.....yet people can bring their own water and food. Can even Order from Vendors.


Liquids joins CNN and Biden being the jokes of the neighborhood.

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:01 AM
So, what have we learned? Democrats can't go an hour or two without a drink and a nosh and that is proof of systemic racism. If the democrats really want to maintain control all they have to do is offer a pro American agenda. Not this racially charged doom and gloom they have been peddling for decades.

We learned that Democrats and leftists are the usual hypocrites and what they accuse others of doing.....they do themselves. You know, their usual. Their norm. Hence New York suppressing the Black vote by not giving out free water.

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:02 AM
So when do the riots begin?

When did they stop?

The Booman
03-29-2021, 06:03 AM
We learned that Democrats and leftists are the usual hypocrites and what they accuse others of doing.....they do themselves. You know, their usual. Their norm. Hence New York suppressing the Black vote by not giving out free water.

If black people can't figure out how to get on the internet how can we expect them to know when to drink water?

stjames1_53
03-29-2021, 06:09 AM
The president’s claim that “You can’t provide water for people about to vote” is just false......snip~


National Review was being kind saying the President's claim is false. Means Joey lied again. :laugh:


The only one that has failed.....is you and your assuming bull$#@!.


Only polling Officials can do it. LMAO.....yet people can bring their own water and food. Can even Order from Vendors.


Liquids joins CNN and Biden being the jokes of the neighborhood.

Leanne has hit a new low,
TLG followed her right down the rabbit hole.
Now both have lost their way,
So now they need for you to believe anything they say.

Torus34
03-29-2021, 06:12 AM
The Georgia law will be in effect until, and only until, one of the suits which will inevitably be brought results in a judicial stay. It's a while until the next election in Georgia.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. [Ed.: And hydrated!]

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:17 AM
"In Georgia, everyone knows.." .....really? Now you're speaking for an entire state?
"...minorities voting lines are always longer than in white districts." You should be glad that more minorities are voting than whites.



LOL.....its another lie by the left. The Democrats in the cities and districts they control, which are majorly minorities are responsible for those very long lines. Especially in Atlanta and the suburbs. :laugh:

The Booman
03-29-2021, 06:23 AM
Leanne has hit a new low,
TLG followed her right down the rabbit hole.
Now both have lost their way,
So now they need for you to believe anything they say.


Hopefully they will stay down said hole. Waterboy is simply Ripmeister with more sources and Leanne is just exhausting. Five minutes of her hate is like running a marathon in full mountaineering gear on the most humid day in August. Why are democrats always assholes? Smug arrogant assholes who can't simply sit down, have a cup of tea and enjoy the sunshine for five minutes. Everything is a problem with them. if it is not hordes of white people roaming the countryside looking for black people to lynch it's the weather going to kill us all on Tuesday and on top of that the entire military now has to protect congress from a rather angry viking. These people are not well.

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:24 AM
...withing 150 feet of the building...

You conveniently forgot that part.
Yet, just below that clause it states that poll workers will make water available at self-serve stations, and earlier in the bill, it states that they're opening up additional Saturdays and Sundays for voting to accommodate more voters. It also states that no one should wait less than one hour in line to vote.

Liberals are back to picking out one or two words from an entire bill and trying to twist them into something they aren't.

The GA bill makes it easier to vote -- not harder.

They are not Liberals.....they are leftists, the illiberals. Liberals can't stand them either as they make the left look like idiots.....ask Glenn Greenwald. Even if they were to witness what takes place with food and water. They would still lie.


Oh and btw.....he left that part out on purpose. Intentionally.

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:33 AM
If black people can't figure out how to get on the internet how can we expect them to know when to drink water?
Cmon Man.....their white Privileged leftists will tell them.

The Booman
03-29-2021, 06:36 AM
Cmon Man.....their white Privileged leftists will tell them.

Yeah but what about...you know.......the thing!

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:37 AM
And these are democrat controlled districts. Why don't the open more polling locations? Or manage the process better to limit lines.

Why does the "media" let them get away with blaming republicans for these local issues?

Remember now the Demonrats used the Wuhu as an excuse. Just like Mayor Beetlejuice of Chicago did. Uhm, because the Lame Stream Media is filled with leftist patsies/activists that are part of the Borg Consciousness. Plus dont forget. several of the Big Names in the Lame Stream Media were Democrat aides.

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:38 AM
Yeah but what about...you know.......the thing!

No worries.....they can be handed a sippy cup.

MMC
03-29-2021, 06:52 AM
The Georgia law will be in effect until, and only until, one of the suits which will inevitably be brought results in a judicial stay. It's a while until the next election in Georgia.

Regards, stay safe 'n well. [Ed.: And hydrated!]

Lets us know when there is a stay. Next elections in Georgia.



Below is a list of Georgia elections covered by Ballotpedia in 2021. Click the links to learn more about each type:


State executives (https://ballotpedia.org/State_executive_official_elections,_2021) • State legislature (https://ballotpedia.org/State_legislative_elections,_2021) • Statewide ballot measures (https://ballotpedia.org/2021_ballot_measures) • State judicial (https://ballotpedia.org/State_judicial_elections,_2021) • Municipal government (https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_municipal_elections,_2021) • Mayors (https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_mayoral_elections,_2021) • School boards (https://ballotpedia.org/School_board_elections,_2021) • Local judicial (https://ballotpedia.org/Local_trial_court_judicial_elections,_2021) • Local ballot measures (https://ballotpedia.org/Local_ballot_measure_elections_in_2021) • Recall (https://ballotpedia.org/Political_recall_efforts,_2021).....snip~


Georgia elections, 2021 - Ballotpedia (https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia_elections,_2021)



The lefts activists will need to hurry for that stay. LOL

MMC
03-29-2021, 07:02 AM
It requires that every county to have two Saturdays that you can vote early, and you can have up to two Sundays to vote early.


The old law mandates only one Saturday of early voting.


While shortening the period between elections and runoffs from nine weeks to four weeks counties would be able to start early voting ASAP.

Torus34
03-29-2021, 07:38 AM
Lets us know when there is a stay. Next elections in Georgia.



Below is a list of Georgia elections covered by Ballotpedia in 2021. Click the links to learn more about each type:


State executives (https://ballotpedia.org/State_executive_official_elections,_2021) • State legislature (https://ballotpedia.org/State_legislative_elections,_2021) • Statewide ballot measures (https://ballotpedia.org/2021_ballot_measures) • State judicial (https://ballotpedia.org/State_judicial_elections,_2021) • Municipal government (https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_municipal_elections,_2021) • Mayors (https://ballotpedia.org/United_States_mayoral_elections,_2021) • School boards (https://ballotpedia.org/School_board_elections,_2021) • Local judicial (https://ballotpedia.org/Local_trial_court_judicial_elections,_2021) • Local ballot measures (https://ballotpedia.org/Local_ballot_measure_elections_in_2021) • Recall (https://ballotpedia.org/Political_recall_efforts,_2021).....snip~


Georgia elections, 2021 - Ballotpedia (https://ballotpedia.org/Georgia_elections,_2021)



The lefts activists will need to hurry for that stay. LOL

Hi!

Thank you for taking time to provide the additional information.

Regards, stay safe 'n well.

Tahuyaman
03-29-2021, 10:57 AM
Liberals always go off on these rants without knowing the facts. All they need is a headline. Screw the details.

Tahuyaman
03-29-2021, 10:58 AM
It requires that every county to have two Saturdays that you can vote early, and you can have up to two Sundays to vote early.


The old law mandates only one Saturday of early voting.


While shortening the period between elections and runoffs from nine weeks to four weeks counties would be able to start early voting ASAP.
That's obviously intended to supress the black vote.

Tahuyaman
03-29-2021, 11:01 AM
You're clueless.
You haven't taken the time to read any of the details in this bill. You've just gone along with the false left wing narrative. In other words, you're clueless.

MMC
03-29-2021, 11:37 AM
Liberals always go off on these rants without knowing the facts. All they need is a headline. Screw the details.

Helps them to get another 16 pages on a thread after they have been debunked.

MMC
03-29-2021, 11:39 AM
That's obviously intended to supress the black vote.

Well, you know they would play the race card. SOP.

pjohns
03-29-2021, 12:01 PM
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160125114628-donald-trump-quote-shoot-somebody-super-169.jpg

It never fails to amaze that Trump supporters can make these kinds of statements, totally oblivious to the fact that "The Donald" is unwilling to accept any dissenting opinions within the ranks - ask former Vice President Mike Pence!

Donald Trump has indeed said some foolish things--and even done some foolish things.

But he is no longer president.

Those who are still obsessed with him are surely displaying a sort of Trump Derangement Syndrome...

carolina73
03-29-2021, 12:08 PM
Speaking of this thread.


I wonder if Leanne checked NY law that prohibit handing out anything with a value of over $1 which would of course include food and most bottles of water.

Then she should check out Delaware's laws which are very restrictive.

pjohns
03-29-2021, 12:09 PM
We all know that after 4 years, "The Donald" demands complete and total loyalty - his supporters are well aware that "The Audience of One" surrounds himself only with those more than willing to be told how to think!
Are you not aware, perhaps, that many of those who voted for the man in 2016, and again in 2020--in fact, most of us--are not at all congenial to being "told how to think"?

In fact, I instantly (and thoroughly!) rebel at any such thing--whether it is political in nature, or religious, or philosophical.

Many of us--in fact, again, I would imagine that most of us--simply considered Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden to be inferior choices in those two years.

Can you just not comprehend this?

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 12:19 PM
...withing 150 feet of the building...
You conveniently forgot that part.

You conveniently forgot the part in red below. "within 25 feet of any voter standing in line..."


(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:

(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established;
(2) Within any polling place; or
(3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.

These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or areas which cannot be seen or heard by such electors."


If your wife brings you a tall glass of lemonade under the hot Georgia sun, she will be cuffed, dragged away, and charged with a felony, by law. I would call this law ridiculous, but it's actually closer to diabolical.

DGUtley
03-29-2021, 12:23 PM
You conveniently forgot the part in red below. "within 25 feet of any voter standing in line..."
(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:

(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established;
(2) Within any polling place; or
(3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.

These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or areas which cannot be seen or heard by such electors."


If your wife brings you a tall glass of lemonade under the hot Georgia sun, she will be cuffed, dragged away, and charged with a felony, by law. I would call this law ridiculous, but it's actually closer to diabolical.

She will not be. You are engaging in jiggery-pokery.
This is designed to stop the situation I described earlier in the thread. If you don't think that happens, you're mistaken.

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 12:25 PM
Yet, just below that clause it states that poll workers will make water available at self-serve stations,

No sir. It does not. The law does not force poll officials to give out water as you are trying to make it sound.

It says that poll officials are not prohibited from doing so. It does not mandate them to do so. It does not create a budget for them to do so.




and earlier in the bill, it states that they're opening up additional Saturdays and Sundays for voting to accommodate more voters. It also states that no one should wait less than one hour in line to vote.

That sounds encouraging. However, did you know that originally the bill wanted to shut down voting on Sundays? This was meant to thwart the "Souls to the polls" tradition in black church congregations where they would hold Sunday services and then bring everyone to the polls to vote right after. This is obviously beneficial to Democrats. They clearly wanted to end it. But since they could not explain how this would help reduce voter fraud, someone decided it was far too obvious a suppression move to go through with. Nonetheless, that proposal demonstrates the true intent of this batch of law changes.


"no one should wait less than one hour in line to vote" lol. Yup. I believe that.



Liberals are back to picking out one or two words from an entire bill and trying to twist them into something they aren't.

You're the one who picked out the 150 feet rule, and "forgot" the 25 feet rule.



The GA bill makes it easier to vote -- not harder.

They reduced the early voting period in runoffs to 1 week from 3 weeks. Does that sound like they are making it easier to vote?

Extra Sundays for voting? That's the only thing that might make it easier to vote. But it is offset by other things.

How many extra Sundays? I have not seen the specifics. I'd like to see how they work that. But as far as I know they can already vote on Sundays.

carolina73
03-29-2021, 12:29 PM
You conveniently forgot the part in red below. "within 25 feet of any voter standing in line..."


(a) No person shall solicit votes in any manner or by any means or method, nor shall any person distribute or display any campaign material, nor shall any person give, offer to give, or participate in the giving of any money or gifts, including, but not limited to, food and drink, to an elector, nor shall any person solicit signatures for any petition, nor shall any person, other than election officials discharging their duties, establish or set up any tables or booths on any day in which ballots are being cast:

(1) Within 150 feet of the outer edge of any building within which a polling place is established;
(2) Within any polling place; or
(3) Within 25 feet of any voter standing in line to vote at any polling place.

These restrictions shall not apply to conduct occurring in private offices or areas which cannot be seen or heard by such electors."


If your wife brings you a tall glass of lemonade under the hot Georgia sun, she will be cuffed, dragged away, and charged with a felony, by law. I would call this law ridiculous, but it's actually closer to diabolical.
If your wife gives it to you then it would not be a gift.

Don't worry. She is safe.


Montana also already has the same language and no one has died.

MMC
03-29-2021, 12:34 PM
She will not be. You are engaging in jiggery-pokery.
This is designed to stop the situation I described earlier in the thread. If you don't think that happens, you're mistaken.


You are kind.....much to kind. Not just mistaken.....completely wrong. :laugh:

Peter1469
03-29-2021, 12:35 PM
You are kind.....much to kind. Not just mistaken.....completely wrong. :laugh:

And sort of hysterical.

carolina73
03-29-2021, 12:37 PM
And sort of hysterical.
TLG will stop at nothing to try not to lose, so he tries to find a point where he can be 1% correct. He failed on that this time.

FindersKeepers
03-29-2021, 12:39 PM
If your wife brings you a tall glass of lemonade under the hot Georgia sun, she will be cuffed, dragged away, and charged with a felony, by law. I would call this law ridiculous, but it's actually closer to diabolical.

Or, she can hand it to the poll monitor and ask them to hand it to you.

Or, you can drink from the designated water stationed mentioned in the bill.

Or, you can bring a water bottle.

Or, because the purpose of the bill is to reduce the time you will stand in line to less than an hour, you can simply wait.

So many options. Why would anyone choose the only one they're not supposed to do?

carolina73
03-29-2021, 12:41 PM
Or, she can hand it to the poll monitor and ask them to hand it to you.

Or, you can drink from the designated water stationed mentioned in the bill.

Or, you can bring a water bottle.

Or, because the purpose of the bill is to reduce the time you will stand in line to less than an hour, you can simply wait.

So many options. Why would anyone choose the only one they're not supposed to do?
And then complain because now you have to pee and the Democrats can not bring you a bucket.

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 12:42 PM
If your wife gives it to you then it would not be a gift.

That's debatable. My ex used to give me gift's that she bought with money from our joint bank account. But it was still a gift.

But this is beside the point anyway. It's usually been volunteers, not wives, that have brought water to lines. They would be committing a crime by making a 10 hour line tolerable.

MMC
03-29-2021, 12:48 PM
And sort of hysterical.

https://imageshack.com/a/img924/2544/RgXWLY.gif

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 12:52 PM
TLG will stop at nothing to try not to lose, so he tries to find a point where he can be 1% correct. He failed on that this time.

1) I have already shown that @Tahuyaman (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365) and @FindersKeepers (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1881) didn't know what they were talking about.

2) What have I said that was incorrect? Your "gift" argument is debatable and irrelevant to the main complaint anyway. Volunteers bring water, not wives usually.

3) You are going ad hom on me , carolina73. By now you ought to know when you engage in ad hom, you show weakness.

carolina73
03-29-2021, 12:54 PM
That's debatable. My ex used to give me gift's that she bought with money from our joint bank account. But it was still a gift.

But this is beside the point anyway. It's usually been volunteers, not wives, that have brought water to lines. They would be committing a crime by making a 10 hour line tolerable.

Then you do not believe in the community property laws of marriage?


A poll worker can still bring you water in line if you need it.

MMC
03-29-2021, 12:58 PM
Then you do not believe in the community property laws of marriage?


A poll worker can still bring you water in line if you need it.

Cmon now.....you know he is desperate to keep the thread going. At least for another 16 pages after he was debunked. :laugh:

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 01:04 PM
Or, she can hand it to the poll monitor and ask them to hand it to you.

Thats possible, assuming there are poll workers around and not busy doing other things when your "wife" shows up. assuming they are willing to walk to the end of a 10 hour long line.


Or, you can drink from the designated water stationed mentioned in the bill.


The bill does not mandate water stations. You are twisting what it says. Stop it.


Or, you can bring a water bottle.
Or, because the purpose of the bill is to reduce the time you will stand in line to less than an hour, you can simply wait.

Politicians in power are not going to pass laws that will hurt their chances of re-election. The purpose is not to reduce wait times.

So many options. Why would anyone choose the only one they're not supposed to do?

Not an option: There are no mandated water tables. not an option.

Not an option: bringing a water bottle? that's an option? lol. The whole point of giving water is to help out those who didn't think to bring some or ran out of water after several hours in line

Possibly an option: Giving water to a poll worker might work, assuming they are available and willing/able to leave their duties to help you out.


There aren't so many options. there is one lame option.




EDIT: I just realized that the law mentions that poll workers can only leave water at unattended receptacles. So I retract my concession that giving water to poll workers is an option. It is not. there are NO options

pjohns
03-29-2021, 01:05 PM
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/tulsaworld.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/6b/26bace6c-75ca-547d-b882-298a11883a97/5c00b0517877b.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C780


Given Trump's 30,000+ documented falsehoods in 4 years, when did his supporters suddenly develop an aversion to lying!
Another instance of Trump Derangement Syndrome! (Yes, even though the man has been out of office for more than two months now.)

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 01:12 PM
Then you do not believe in the community property laws of marriage?


A poll worker can still bring you water in line if you need it.

What would be good is if this law mandated designated poll workers for tending to the needs of the line. for handing refreshments to voters.

That would have convinced me they were sincere.


But this law doesn't even allow them to do that.


The law says that poll workers must leave water at self serve, unattended recepticles.


So actually I retract my concession that giving water to poll workers is an option. Apparently that is NOT an option.

pjohns
03-29-2021, 01:15 PM
https://arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/BHH44EZA2NE6NOV55NUX42NZQU.jpg
It's now illegal in Georgia to give food and water to voters in line

Ironically, was President Donald Trump that made polling stations, particularly in those areas with large "visible-minority" populations, as potential targets for conflict when he urged his Republican supporters to actively monitor them for voter fraud!

This has all the earmarks of a self-fulfilling prophecy - there's something disingenuous about the same political party whose leader was responsible for making the nation's polling stations points of confrontation in the 2020 Election, suddenly stepping in to remedy a problem of their own making!

There also doesn't appear to be anything explicit in the Georgia legislation that protects those in line and voting officials from being intimidated by gangs of Trump supporters circulating in and around polling station posing as scrutineers - aggressively challenging everyone for suspected voter fraud!

If Trump supporters, including "whiting supremacist" groups, were more than capable of storming and occupying Capitol Hill for hours, injuring 150 officers, why should we be surprised if they were to employ the same tactics directed at polling stations around the nation!

We are already well-aware that his supporters in this Forum are more than prepared to justify anything done in his name!
Just one more instance of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

By the way, just what, exactly, is "whiting supremacy"? (I have never before heard that term.)

pjohns
03-29-2021, 01:25 PM
The Georgia law will be in effect until, and only until, one of the suits which will inevitably be brought results in a judicial stay.
This is almost certainly true.

But it is not the same thing as asserting that these lawsuits will ultimately prevail.

pjohns
03-29-2021, 01:31 PM
They are not Liberals.....they are leftists...
This is indeed true.

A couple of liberals whom I truly like are Jonathan Turley and Alan Dershowitz. But they are not at all leftists. (In fact, I often find them to be in agreement with conservative preferences.)

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 01:33 PM
She will not be. You are engaging in jiggery-pokery.
This is designed to stop the situation I described earlier in the thread. If you don't think that happens, you're mistaken.

Ok. I was giving an unlikely and extreme example. I admit. But technically, it is true to say that that could happen.


I appreciate you cutting past all BS that these guys are trying to dump here.


The issue of the intent of the law is what we are really debating. You argue that there is noble intent. And you cite examples in other states of people approaching lines with hoagies and beer, and "reminding" them who to vote for.

Here are some of the reasons why I believe the law is malign.

1) The suite of law changes originally include an attempt to shut down "souls to the polls"
2) "Line warming" is obviously ineffective. Votes will not be changed by this so, this law achieves nothing. It merely makes long lines harder to endure.
3) early voting is reduced

MMC
03-29-2021, 01:40 PM
This is indeed true.

A couple of liberals whom I truly like are Jonathan Turley and Alan Dershowitz. But they are not at all leftists. (In fact, I often find them to be in agreement with conservative preferences.)

Its the same with Glenn Greenwald formerly of the Intercept and now heading Sub Stack.

MMC
03-29-2021, 01:41 PM
CHRIS WALLACE FALSELY CLAIMS NEW GEORGIA LAW BANS DRINKING WATER WHILE IN LINE FOR VOTING (https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/28/chris-wallace-falsely-claims-new-georgia-law-bans-drinking-water-while-in-line-for-voting/)Fox News’ Chris Wallace wrongly claimed Sunday Georgia voters are prohibited from being given water while in line at the polls.


http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif

FindersKeepers
03-29-2021, 01:42 PM
Thats possible, assuming there are poll workers around and not busy doing other things when your "wife" shows up. assuming they are willing to walk to the end of a 10 hour long line.

Lines are to be less than one-hour long. Stop adding your own narrative.

The bill does not mandate water stations. You are twisting what it says. Stop it.

No mandate, but it does encourage and allow it.


"(e) This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer from distributing
1885 materials, as required by law, which are necessary for the purpose of instructing electors
1886 or from distributing materials prepared by the Secretary of State which are designed solely
1887 for the purpose of encouraging voter participation in the election being conducted or from
1888 making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in
1889 line to vote."



Politicians in power are not going to pass laws that will hurt their chances of re-election. The purpose is not to reduce wait times.

And yet, if you read the bill, it will reduce wait-times. Additionally, it specifically mentions the need to reduce wait times. You really don't know the inner thoughts of those who passed it. At best, we can only look at the entire bill as a whole and see what changes it will bring.



Not an option: There are no mandated water tables. not an option.
Not an option: bringing a water bottle? that's an option? lol. The whole point of giving water is to help out those who didn't think to bring some or ran out of water after several hours in line
Possibly an option: Giving water to a poll worker might work, assuming they are available and willing/able to leave their duties to help you out.
There aren't so many options. there is one lame option.


You still don't know the goal behind this bill. You may assume it's to make it difficult for folks to vote, but that's not it.

EDIT: I just realized that the law mentions that poll workers can only leave water at unattended receptacles. So I retract my concession that giving water to poll workers is an option. It is not. there are NO options

I posted the relevant part above. Read better.

FindersKeepers
03-29-2021, 01:43 PM
CHRIS WALLACE FALSELY CLAIMS NEW GEORGIA LAW BANS DRINKING WATER WHILE IN LINE FOR VOTING (https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/28/chris-wallace-falsely-claims-new-georgia-law-bans-drinking-water-while-in-line-for-voting/)

Fox News’ Chris Wallace wrongly claimed Sunday Georgia voters are prohibited from being given water while in line at the polls.


http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif


This is how BS travels so quickly through the media. Unfortunately, many will be too lazy to read the bill and they will believe it.

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 02:09 PM
CHRIS WALLACE FALSELY CLAIMS NEW GEORGIA LAW BANS DRINKING WATER WHILE IN LINE FOR VOTING (https://thefederalist.com/2021/03/28/chris-wallace-falsely-claims-new-georgia-law-bans-drinking-water-while-in-line-for-voting/)

Fox News’ Chris Wallace wrongly claimed Sunday Georgia voters are prohibited from being given water while in line at the polls.


http://thepoliticalforums.com/images/smilies/newsmilies/smiley_ROFLMAO.gif


Its not false.


It's true.


It is illegal to hand someone water while in line.

Get the facts straight for once.

carolina73
03-29-2021, 02:48 PM
Its not false.


It's true.


It is illegal to hand someone water while in line.

Get the facts straight for once.

Solution: Pack your Hot Wheels lunch box. You can bring a sandwich. Have your thermos filled with soup. Animal crackers and a little bottle of water.

Otherwise, this is a voting line not the homeless shelter.

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 02:56 PM
Lines are to be less than one-hour long. Stop adding your own narrative.
No mandate, but it does encourage and allow it.

It does not "encourage" it either.

It simply says that it's not illegal.

"This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer [...] from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote."




And yet, if you read the bill, it will reduce wait-times. Additionally, it specifically mentions the need to reduce wait times. You really don't know the inner thoughts of those who passed it. At best, we can only look at the entire bill as a whole and see what changes it will bring.


I would love it if you would quote the section that explains how it will achieve that.

You can't just declare lines will be shorter without laying down a plan to make it so.


You still don't know the goal behind this bill. You may assume it's to make it difficult for folks to vote, but that's not it.


Show me their plan to make lines shorter. If it is practical, funded, mandated, and likely to work, I will abandon my position of malign intent. For now you'll have to explain how reducing early voting periods in runoffs from 3 weeks to one week either reduces voter fraud, or makes lines shorter.


I posted the relevant part above. Read better.
I believe it is you who should read better, sir.

The part you posted supports my position, not yours. My position is that no person, not even poll workers, may hand water to voters. Poll workers may only participate in "making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote."

Therefore you cannot give water to a poll worker and expect him to hand it to your wife.

MMC
03-29-2021, 02:59 PM
This is how BS travels so quickly through the media. Unfortunately, many will be too lazy to read the bill and they will believe it.

Yep started by Abrams and Leftist activists, then Biden, then the Lame Stream Media going with what they said. Now the bill is out and its been proven to be a lie. Then National Review and the Federalist broke the fact of the Demos controlling the situation locally with elections. Highlighting the lie about Water and Food.


Biden and Team Deviate went to the water issue because they knew they couldnt outright lie about the new early voting on Saturdays and Sundays. Trying to appeal to the emotionally wrought. Of course, its all about tricking those on the plantation. Black voter suppression. Another lie. Especially with the Demos controlling Atlanta and deciding when, where, and how many polling stations with the Wuhu raging.


Of course they are avoiding talking about how New York treats those leftists voters with water. LOL

hanger4
03-29-2021, 03:02 PM
It does not "encourage" it either.

It simply says that it's not illegal.

"This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer [...] from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote."





I would love it if you would quote the section that explains how it will achieve that.

You can't just declare lines will be shorter without laying down a plan to make it so.



Show me their plan to make lines shorter. If it is practical, funded, mandated, and likely to work, I will abandon my position of malign intent. For now you'll have to explain how reducing early voting periods in runoffs from 3 weeks to one week either reduces voter fraud, or makes lines shorter.


I believe it is you who should read better, sir.

The part you posted supports my position, not yours. My position is that no person, not even poll workers, may hand water to voters. Poll workers may only participate in "making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote."

Therefore you cannot give water to a poll worker and expect him to hand it to your wife.

*It simply says that it's not illegal.
"This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer [...] from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote."*

Like I said, CNN's headline lied. Thanks :thumbsup:

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 03:07 PM
*It simply says that it's not illegal.
"This Code section shall not be construed to prohibit a poll officer [...] from making available self-service water from an unattended receptacle to an elector waiting in line to vote."*

Like I said, CNN's headline lied. Thanks :thumbsup:
Oh yeah, it was sooooooooooooooo misleading! How could they!?

MMC
03-29-2021, 03:10 PM
Its not false.


It's true.


It is illegal to hand someone water while in line.

Get the facts straight for once.

Its false.....the left has lied and now have been caught in the lie. Oh and Joe Biden says.....they can't even get any water. A lie!


You have been debunked in thread repeatedly. But you will continue on to run up a thread that has been debunked and proven to be a lie.




Biden Unhinged: Calls Attempts To Stop Election Fraud ‘Sick’ And ‘Un-American’.....



“What I’m worried about is how un-American this whole initiative is. It’s sick,” he said. “It’s sick …


There is a debate in Georgia about a provision regarding bringing voters food and water while they are waiting to vote. Is that un-American? Not when you consider that such “services” could amount to illegal electioneering. But maybe Biden thinks those restrictions are un-American, too.


That 5 p.m. poll closing time? He’s apparently referring to a plan in Texas that would have polls close in the first week of early voting at 5 p.m. But they’d be open until 7 p.m. in the second week of early voting. And the point of the measure is to create a uniform rule across the state, instead of the wide variations seen in the last election.


And the “no absentee ballots” is bogus. States are trying to rein in mail-in voting that caused massive problems in the last election.


In Georgia, one bill would require voters to include a photocopy of an accepted form of identification with their ballot request form and their absentee vote, instead of a signature, so as to avoid problems with signature matching.


The press, of course, has been following the Democrat’s talking points on this to the letter, writing about every such measure in terms of voter suppression, while praising congressional Democrats for their “voting rights” bill.


So, what’s Biden really so mad about? That Democrats won’t be able to establish a one-party state!.....snip~


Biden Unhinged: Calls Attempts To Stop Election Fraud ‘Sick’ And ‘Un-American’ – Issues & Insights (https://issuesinsights.com/2021/03/26/biden-unhinged-calls-state-election-integrity-bills-un-american/)


Facts are straight. You dont get to make up your own. Quit playing Borg drone. Come back to reality! Quit assuming. Assumption is the mother of all fuck ups.

hanger4
03-29-2021, 03:11 PM
Oh yeah, it was sooooooooooooooo misleading! How could they!?

Because they have an agenda. :grin:

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 03:28 PM
Because they have an agenda. :grin:
CNN wasn't misleading. You are though.

I am not sure what the exact CNN headline was. But if it was "it's illegal to give voters water," they were 100% accurate.

Since poll workers are the only ones allowed to leave out water for the voters, and they have no budget, and no mandate, and no motive, and no time to leave their duties to do so, the law effectively ends providing refreshments for voters. In such a case, still 99% accurate.

It's illegal for anyone to provide food to voters.

It's illegal for ANYONE, even poll workers, to hand water to voters.

There is no legal way to get refreshments to your family members waiting in line. Not even by going through poll workers.


CNN was not misleading. you are.

Tahuyaman
03-29-2021, 03:30 PM
1) I have already shown that @Tahuyaman (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1365) and @FindersKeepers (https://thepoliticalforums.com/member.php?u=1881) didn't know what they were talking about.

2) What have I said that was incorrect? Your "gift" argument is debatable and irrelevant to the main complaint anyway. Volunteers bring water, not wives usually.

3) You are going ad hom on me , carolina73. By now you ought to know when you engage in ad hom, you show weakness.
You stated that a woman will be arrested and charged with a felony crime if she gives her husband a sandwich while he was in line to vote. That claim was both false and idiotic.

This law forbids candidates from using gifts or other inducements to solicit votes at a polling place. That's all. Period. If you can't can't be both accurate and honest there's no sense in engaging you any longer on this.

MMC
03-29-2021, 03:35 PM
You stated that a woman will be arrested and charged with a felony crime if she her husband a sandwich while he was in line to vote. That claim was both false and idiotic.

This law forbids candidates from using gifts or other inducements to solicit votes at a polling place. That's all. Period. If you can't can't be both accurate and honest there's no sense in engaging you any longer on this.

What really has the leftness upset is the part about an ID for ballots. Now they can't mail absentee ballots to parking lots and abandoned buildings.

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 03:40 PM
Its false.....the left has lied and now have been caught in the lie. Oh and Joe Biden says.....they can't even get any water. A lie!


FACT: It's illegal for ANYONE, even a poll worker, to hand voters water.

You have been debunked in thread repeatedly. But you will continue on to run up a thread that has been debunked and proven to be a lie.


I will keep correcting your lies as long as you keep producing them.


The only way to get water to voters is for a poll worker to take time off from his duties to set up a receptacle. he has no budget to provide water. He has no mandate to do so. He has no motivation to do so. So why would it happen? It wouldn't. You know it. I know it. Everyone knows it. Including the Georgia GOP.

Chris Wallace was accurate. You are not, as a rule.

Tahuyaman
03-29-2021, 03:41 PM
What really has the leftness upset is the part about an ID for ballots. Now they can't mail absentee ballots to parking lots and abandoned buildings.
Democrats want to encourage ballot harvesting.


That being said, I know it's often difficult, but it's always best to avoid further engagement with someone who's stuck on stupid.

TheLiquidGuy
03-29-2021, 03:44 PM
You stated that a woman will be arrested and charged with a felony crime if she gives her husband a sandwich while he was in line to vote. That claim was both false and idiotic.

This law forbids candidates from using gifts or other inducements to solicit votes at a polling place. That's all. Period. If you can't can't be both accurate and honest there's no sense in engaging you any longer on this.

lol. It's pretty clear you didn't read the law.


Try again.