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Chris
07-07-2013, 09:27 AM
Seems apropos all the discussions of it...


When Rasmussen Reports asked some of its polling subjects to conduct an odd exercise in racial stereotyping, the results were counterintuitive, or at least counterstereotypical:


Thirty-seven percent (37%) of American Adults think most black Americans are racist, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 15% consider most white Americans racist, while 18% say the same of most Hispanic Americans.

Before we dig deeper into the poll's findings, let's note an enormous caveat: The word "racist" has multiple meanings. Merriam-Webster lists two: "1: a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race," and "2: racial prejudice or discrimination."

A prime reason talk about "racism" tends to be more inflammatory than enlightening is the elision of the very large difference between these two definitions. Thus: The Tea Party opposes the policies of Barack Obama, who is black. Some Tea Party members have said things that offend the racial sensibilities of left-leaning Americans. Thus, the lefties conclude, the Tea Party is driven by prejudice--it is, according to them, "racist" (by definition 2). In the left's imagination, that puts the Tea Party in the same category as the Ku Klux Klan, even though the Klan indisputably was racist by definition 1.

To put it more concisely, much of the "dialogue" about race in America today consists of equating dubiously imputed racial prejudice with white supremacy.

...Rasmussen ignores the first dictionary definition and narrows the second to cover only "discrimination," not mere "prejudice." Arguably one of its alternative definitions of "racism" is itself racist, in the sense of definition 1: The notion that only white people can be racist implies that whites are superior, although it regards the supposed superiority as a moral abomination rather than a birthright.

Even Rasmussen's reciprocal definition--"discrimination by people of one race against another"--is problematic. If we understand racism to mean racial discrimination, what does it matter if the perpetrator is of the same race as the victim?

...All that having been said, let's look at the numbers:


There is a huge ideological difference on this topic. Among conservative Americans, 49% consider most blacks racist, and only 12% see most whites that way. Among liberal voters, 27% see most white Americans as racist, and 21% say the same about black Americans.

From a partisan perspective, 49% of Republicans see most black Americans as racist, along with 36% of unaffiliated adults and 29% of Democrats.

Among black Americans, 31% think most blacks are racist, while 24% consider most whites racist and 15% view most Hispanics that way.

Among white adults, 10% think most white Americans are racist; 38% believe most blacks are racist, and 17% say most Hispanics are racist.

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@ Who's the Most 'Racist'? What a new poll does and doesn't tell us. (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324853704578587610461933172.html?m od=WSJ_Opinion_MIDDLETopOpinion)

Dr. Who
07-07-2013, 10:27 AM
All racism is illogical. It is a reaction based on fear and ignorance. Oh, and although I am a lefty, I don't have any need to feel moral or any other form of superiority over others. I just think that racism or any other form of bigotry gives people an excuse to make unfounded assumptions about large groups of people and impute the behaviors of the few, to the many.

Agravan
07-07-2013, 10:37 AM
All racism is illogical. It is a reaction based on fear and ignorance. Oh, and although I am a lefty, I don't have any need to feel moral or any other form of superiority over others. I just think that racism or any other form of bigotry gives people an excuse to make unfounded assumptions about large groups of people and impute the behaviors of the few, to the many.
This is commendable. but the fact remains that lefties, for the most part, often see racism where it does not exist, for example, criticism of Obama's policies.
Any objection that involves a person of color is viewed as racism. Any objection to illegal immigration is viewed as racism. Hell, pretty much any policy that the right supports is viewed as racist, even when those on the right are, themselves, people of color.
As far as who is the most racist, have a black man walk thru a white neighborhood and he will be watched, maybe stopped and questioned by the local PD. Have a white man walk thru a black neighborhood, and he may not make it out alive.

Very often, just pointing out these facts of life will gain one an accusation of racism.

Mister D
07-07-2013, 10:54 AM
This is commendable. but the fact remains that lefties, for the most part, often see racism where it does not exist, for example, criticism of Obama's policies.
Any objection that involves a person of color is viewed as racism. Any objection to illegal immigration is viewed as racism. Hell, pretty much any policy that the right supports is viewed as racist, even when those on the right are, themselves, people of color.
As far as who is the most racist, have a black man walk thru a white neighborhood and he will be watched, maybe stopped and questioned by the local PD. Have a white man walk thru a black neighborhood, and he may not make it out alive.

Very often, just pointing out these facts of life will gain one an accusation of racism.

I agree that frivolous accusations of racism abound here.

Dr. Who
07-07-2013, 11:04 AM
This is commendable. but the fact remains that lefties, for the most part, often see racism where it does not exist, for example, criticism of Obama's policies.
Any objection that involves a person of color is viewed as racism. Any objection to illegal immigration is viewed as racism. Hell, pretty much any policy that the right supports is viewed as racist, even when those on the right are, themselves, people of color.
As far as who is the most racist, have a black man walk thru a white neighborhood and he will be watched, maybe stopped and questioned by the local PD. Have a white man walk thru a black neighborhood, and he may not make it out alive.

Very often, just pointing out these facts of life will gain one an accusation of racism.

Re your comment about who is the most racist - you have automatically assumed that all black neighborhoods are rough places where no white person might make it out alive. Nothing could be further from the truth. Yes there are bad neighborhoods where that might be true, but there are also nice black neighborhoods where white people are not in any danger. Similarly there are bad white neighborhoods where a person of color would not be safe. As to illegal immigration - I don't support it. It's unfair to those who abide by the rules and apply to be an immigrant. I also don't support assuming that criticism of Obama's policies are necessarily anything but disagreement, unless the person doing the disagreeing makes some statement connecting their disagreement to race.

Chris
07-07-2013, 01:38 PM
This is commendable. but the fact remains that lefties, for the most part, often see racism where it does not exist, for example, criticism of Obama's policies.
Any objection that involves a person of color is viewed as racism. Any objection to illegal immigration is viewed as racism. Hell, pretty much any policy that the right supports is viewed as racist, even when those on the right are, themselves, people of color.
As far as who is the most racist, have a black man walk thru a white neighborhood and he will be watched, maybe stopped and questioned by the local PD. Have a white man walk thru a black neighborhood, and he may not make it out alive.

Very often, just pointing out these facts of life will gain one an accusation of racism.

Yes, that, I think, is the point of the OP, thanks!

Agravan
07-07-2013, 01:42 PM
Yes, that, I think, is the point of the OP, thanks!

This is not to say that racism does not exist, it does, in both parties and in all walks and colors of life. Point it out when it is real. But accusing everything you disagree with as being racist just waters the word down to where it no longer means anything.

Chris
07-07-2013, 03:23 PM
This is not to say that racism does not exist, it does, in both parties and in all walks and colors of life. Point it out when it is real. But accusing everything you disagree with as being racist just waters the word down to where it no longer means anything.

Agree there too, it does...both ways. But the crying wolf diminishes it, the meaning of the word to use effectively.