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keymanjim
08-14-2013, 09:15 AM
11 Liberal Rules for Racism in America - John Hawkins - Page full (http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/08/13/11-liberal-rules-for-racism-in-america-n1662791/page/full)


John Hawkins (http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/) | Aug 13, 2013
When America was a racist country, Democrats were primarily the ones engaged in racism. However, now that racism has been largely relegated to the fringes of American society (the KKK, the New Black Panthers, the Nation of Islam, La Raza, MEChA, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, American Nazi Party, etc.), the Democrats are constantly wagging their fingers about it. Of course naturally, given the racist history of the Democrat Party, liberals have managed to rig the rules in order to benefit themselves and hurt their political opponents. That's a pretty neat albeit despicable trick that they've managed to pull off.

The author does an excellent job on explaining why the left is fixated on race and racism in America.
He has broken them down to these 11 catagories:


1) Liberals aren't held to the same rules as Republicans
2) Minority racism must be ignored
3) You pay no penalty for falsely accusing people of racism
4) Outrage matters more than facts
5) It's okay to discriminate against white Americans
6) It's always the fifties and sixties
7) Past evidence must be ignored
8) Republicans secretly want to do things Democrats used to do
9) Minorities shouldn't be held to the same standards as whites
10) When a white non-liberal disagrees with a liberal minority, it's probably because of racism
11) Only liberals get to decide what's racist

Mister D
08-14-2013, 09:16 AM
All too true. I'd be happy to debate any point.

keymanjim
08-14-2013, 09:29 AM
All too true. I'd be happy to debate any point.
I doubt that anyone can debate on these. Though, you can expect them to putt out the Alinsky rules to try to discredit this author.

Chloe
08-14-2013, 09:33 AM
That list implies that all liberals believe each of those points. It's a little irresponsible to clump all liberals into that in my opinion.

Cigar
08-14-2013, 09:33 AM
http://www.usanationals.com/election_images/republican-party-tombstone.jpg

bladimz
08-14-2013, 09:36 AM
3) You pay no penalty for falsely accusing people of racismSo who decides if the accusation is false or not?
Let me guess... John Hawkins.

Cigar
08-14-2013, 09:36 AM
That list implies that all liberals believe each of those points. It's a little irresponsible to clump all liberals into that in my opinion.

It's like saying White Men Can't Jump :grin:

http://cf2.imgobject.com/t/p/original/zvELZjNzVVI3mYxuWensjMJPgje.jpg

Mister D
08-14-2013, 09:37 AM
So who decides if the accusation is false or not?
Let me guess... John Hawkins.

Which one is false?

bladimz
08-14-2013, 09:43 AM
The author does an excellent job on explaining why the left is fixated on race and racism in America.


1) Liberals aren't held to the same rules as Republicans
2) Minority racism must be ignored
3) You pay no penalty for falsely accusing people of racism
4) Outrage matters more than facts
5) It's okay to discriminate against white Americans
6) It's always the fifties and sixties
7) Past evidence must be ignored
8) Republicans secretly want to do things Democrats used to do
9) Minorities shouldn't be held to the same standards as whites
10) When a white non-liberal disagrees with a liberal minority, it's probably because of racism
11) Only liberals get to decide what's racist
Wow. Talk about fixating. This guy actually compiled a list of his simplistic perception of the racial ideologies of all liberals...

bladimz
08-14-2013, 09:44 AM
Which one is false?You tell me. The conservative mind seems to know which accusations are false and which are not.

Boris The Animal
08-14-2013, 09:44 AM
Wow. Talk about fixating. This guy actually compiled a list of his simplistic perception of the racial ideologies of all liberals...That's because it is true. All Liberals are racists.

Mister D
08-14-2013, 09:45 AM
Wow. Talk about fixating. This guy actually compiled a list of his simplistic perception of the racial ideologies of all liberals...

Liberal racial ideology is fairly simple and straight forward. What exactly do you disagree with?

Beevee
08-14-2013, 09:45 AM
11 Liberal Rules for Racism in America - John Hawkins - Page full (http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/2013/08/13/11-liberal-rules-for-racism-in-america-n1662791/page/full)



The author does an excellent job on explaining why the left is fixated on race and racism in America.
He has broken them down to these 11 catagories:

With the amount of times 'racism' is quoted in your diatribe, it appears you too are doing quite well.

Chloe
08-14-2013, 09:45 AM
Which one is false?

They are all false to an extent because not all liberals believe in each of those points or have those thoughts.

Beevee
08-14-2013, 09:47 AM
That's because it is true. All Liberals are racists.


This writer certainly is and concedes there isn't a single Republican who would ever consider himself/herself to be one.

Mister D
08-14-2013, 09:48 AM
Sorry. #3 for starts.

I see frivolous accusations of racism all the time including on this forum. The only penalty one may be said to pay is more of a collective penalty in the sense that racism is taken less seriously than it otherwise should be.

Boris The Animal
08-14-2013, 09:48 AM
They are all false to an extent because not all liberals believe in each of those points or have those thoughts.Sure you do. It's SOP for Leftism to try to degrade Conservatism.

Mister D
08-14-2013, 09:49 AM
They are all false to an extent because not all liberals believe in each of those points or have those thoughts.

Ah, but many do including some of your fellow progressives here. They are also among the loudest.

Chris
08-14-2013, 09:51 AM
That list implies that all liberals believe each of those points. It's a little irresponsible to clump all liberals into that in my opinion.

That's probably true. It should probably be qualified most liberals believe those points.

Moreover, it's probably wrong to say liberals believe those rules for I doubt many are aware of it, it is done unthinkingly, ritualistically, religiously in the religion of statism.

Cigar
08-14-2013, 09:51 AM
I see frivolous accusations of racism all the time including on this forum. The only penalty one may be said to pay is more of a collective penalty in the sense that racism is taken less seriously than it otherwise should be.

Welcome to the party ... the cake is a little stale ... it's only four centuries old ... but you can still take a big bite and wait in line for someone to give a shit about your concerns.

bladimz
08-14-2013, 09:52 AM
Of course naturally, given the racist history of the Democrat Party, liberals have managed to rig the rules in order to benefit themselves and hurt their political opponents. That's a pretty neat albeit despicable trick that they've managed to pull off.Pretty amazing that the Democratic Party was able to pull the wool over everyone's eyes except for the sly members of the tattered, torn and imploding Regressive, i mean Republican Party.

Chris
08-14-2013, 09:55 AM
3) You pay no penalty for falsely accusing people of racism


So who decides if the accusation is false or not?
Let me guess... John Hawkins.

No one pays because no one decides when most liberals typically appeal to moral relativism. The way, say, marie did when, faced with the social moral issues of abortion, she said with perfect self-interested irresponsible moral relativism, f* society, I decide.

keymanjim
08-14-2013, 09:57 AM
So who decides if the accusation is false or not?
Let me guess... John Hawkins.
Look at that recent Oprah in Sweden incident. She has had to backtrack on her accusation of racism toward that store clerk yet will receive no punishment for making the accusation in the first place.

bladimz
08-14-2013, 09:57 AM
That's probably true. It should probably be qualified most liberals believe those points.It might be true for some liberals. Shockingly, these just happen to be the people that this guy Hawkins is referring to in his "list".

Chris
08-14-2013, 09:58 AM
With the amount of times 'racism' is quoted in your diatribe, it appears you too are doing quite well.

The denial. See, it's not a believe, it's unconscious, ritualistic.

How else is he going to point out liberal racism without using the word. :tard:

Chris
08-14-2013, 10:01 AM
Pretty amazing that the Democratic Party was able to pull the wool over everyone's eyes except for the sly members of the tattered, torn and imploding Regressive, i mean Republican Party.


Do you need to review the racist past of the Democrat Party, blad. Amazing the denial and distancing from your party's past.

Chris
08-14-2013, 10:02 AM
It might be true for some liberals. Shockingly, these just happen to be the people that this guy Hawkins is referring to in his "list".

We can quibble how to qualify liberal racism, but it doesn't whitewash the fact some if not most liberals repeat almost ritualistically the racism of past liberal racism.

Beevee
08-14-2013, 10:06 AM
Look at that recent Oprah in Sweden incident. She has had to backtrack on her accusation of racism toward that store clerk yet will receive no punishment for making the accusation in the first place.

Strange that, since a Canadian MSM reports that it was the store owner who apologised for the incident that happened in Switzerland, unless she later did the same in Sweden in which case Republicans might be more indignant than at present, which borders on the near impossible.

keymanjim
08-14-2013, 10:06 AM
It might be true for some liberals. Shockingly, these just happen to be the people that this guy Hawkins is referring to in his "list".
By 'some' you mean 'most'.
As in, enough that is one of the cornerstones of their platform.

keymanjim
08-14-2013, 10:08 AM
Strange that, since a Canadian MSM reports that it was the store owner who apologised for the incident that happened in Switzerland, unless she later did the same in Sweden in which case Republicans might be more indignant than at present, which borders on the near impossible.
Where ever it happened. The fact is that she will pay no penalty for falsely making the accusation.

Chris
08-14-2013, 10:12 AM
By 'some' you mean 'most'.
As in, enough that is one of the cornerstones of their platform.


The funny thing is even some is too much yet it's being defended instead of scorned and rejected.

Kabuki Joe
08-14-2013, 10:31 AM
I doubt that anyone can debate on these. Though, you can expect them to putt out the Alinsky rules to try to discredit this author.


...but you will get pictures...

bladimz
08-14-2013, 11:18 AM
Do you need to review the racist past of the Democrat Party, blad. Amazing the denial and distancing from your party's past.ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
Any of the racist activities of the Democratic party were prior to the transformation of the party's ideology concerning equality for all.

http://inside.bard.edu/~ansell/ansell_12.pdf

Read the last paragraph on page 8 of the introduction (continued on page 9) for your illumination.

Chris
08-14-2013, 11:30 AM
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
Any of the racist activities of the Democratic party were prior to the transformation of the party's ideology concerning equality for all.

http://inside.bard.edu/~ansell/ansell_12.pdf

Read the last paragraph on page 8 of the introduction (continued on page 9) for your illumination.


Right, dening and distancing from a past that obviously continues today.

The Democrat Race Lie (http://The Democrat Race Lie)


...

October 13, 1858During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee
April 16, 1862
President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no
...

July 17, 1862
Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act (http://www.civilwarhome.com/confiscationact1862.htm)stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free”
January 31, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition
April 8, 1865
13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition
November 22, 1865
Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USASblackcodes.htm),” which institutionalized racial discrimination
February 5, 1866

U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves

...

April 9, 1866
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866 (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAcivil1866.htm), conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law
May 10, 1866
U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no
June 8, 1866
U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no

...


January 8, 1867
Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.
July 19, 1867
Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans
March 30, 1868
Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”
September 12, 1868
Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell (http://www.footstepsmagazine.com/issues/2004/09/2004-09-more.html) and 24 other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress

...


October 7, 1868
Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”
October 22, 1868
While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan
December 10, 1869
Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office
February 3, 1870
After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race

...


May 31, 1870
President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_enforce.html), providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights
June 22, 1870
Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South
September 6, 1870
Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell
February 28, 1871
Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters
April 20, 1871
Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans

...


October 10, 1871
Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands
October 18, 1871
After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan
November 18, 1872
Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight”
January 17, 1874
Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government
September 14, 1874
Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed

...


March 1, 1875
Civil Rights Act of 1875 (http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAcivil1875.htm), guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition
January 10, 1878
U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduces Susan B. Anthony amendment for women’s suffrage; Democrat-controlled Senate defeated it 4 times before election of Republican House and Senate guaranteed its approval in 1919. Republicans foil Democratic efforts to keep women in the kitchen, where they belong
February 8, 1894
Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote
January 15, 1901
Republican Booker T. Washington protests Alabama Democratic Party’s refusal to permit voting by African-Americans

...

Chris
08-14-2013, 11:30 AM
May 29, 1902
Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86%
February 12, 1909
On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP
May 21, 1919
Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no
August 18, 1920
Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures
January 26, 1922
House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster

...


June 2, 1924
Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans
October 3, 1924
Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention
June 12, 1929
First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country
August 17, 1937
Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation
June 24, 1940
Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it

...


August 8, 1945
Republicans condemn Harry Truman’s surprise use of the atomic bomb in Japan. The whining and criticism goes on for years. It begins two days after the Hiroshima bombing, when former Republican President Herbert Hoover writes to a friend that “The use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul.”
September 30, 1953
Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education
November 25, 1955
Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel
March 12, 1956
Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation
June 5, 1956
Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law
November 6, 1956
African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President
September 9, 1957
President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act

...


September 24, 1957
Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orval_Faubus) to integrate public schools
May 6, 1960
President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats
May 2, 1963
Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights
September 29, 1963
Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School
June 9, 1964
Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate

...


June 10, 1964
Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.
August 4, 1965
Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose. Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor
February 19, 1976
President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII
September 15, 1981
President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs
June 29, 1982
President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act
August 10, 1988
President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988 (http://www.children-of-the-camps.org/history/civilact.html), compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR
November 21, 1991
President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 (http://www.legalarchiver.org/civil.htm) to strengthen federal civil rights legislation
August 20, 1996
Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law

...

And I’m tired of the recitation that Southern Democrats became racist Republicans (http://www.black-and-right.com/2010/03/19/the-dixiecrat-myth/) and took those tendencies with them. Even today, it never takes long for a Democrat to play the race card purely for political advantage.



So, blad, can you pinpoint when things changed?

Beevee
08-14-2013, 11:49 AM
Where ever it happened. The fact is that she will pay no penalty for falsely making the accusation.

One would think from your indignation that Americans don't make false accusations ever. Whereas in reality, the opposite is the case. When do they ever tell the truth? That is more opropo.

bladimz
08-14-2013, 12:02 PM
Pinpointing is impossible in politics, as you well know. But a good example is the fact that many racist democrats jumped ship and signed on with the Republican party after Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in '64.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/the-truth-about-republican-racism-and-the-southern-strategy/

The moves by President Truman sparked the spread of equality in the South and left Southern white Democrats with a feeling that their party was abandoning their racist — and oppressive — system of beliefs.
Over the next decade, more and more Democrats began to embrace equality, passing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. And while more African Americans began to vote for Democrats, in the late-1960′s a new Republican strategy was put into place—the “Southern strategy.”
This was a plan was that was first popularized by Richard Nixon.
What the “Southern strategy” essentially does is it identified the fact that African Americans were voting for Democrats, therefore Republicans decided they would make white voters more aware of this fact in hopes of driving the “white vote” towards the Republican party.
Doubt me? Let’s look at a comment from a 1970′s interview in the New York Times with Richard Nixon’s political strategist:
“From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don’t need any more than that…but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and become Republicans. That’s where the votes are. Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats.”
Essentially it was the Republican party saying, “Look, blacks are voting for Democrats so you white people need to vote for Republicans—the party that will represent whites and oppose the blacks.”
I knew you'd dismiss the "tired old" Southern Strategy truth. It's to be expected...

As for Lincoln:
http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation


2. Lincoln didn’t believe blacks should have the same rights as whites.
Though Lincoln argued that the founding fathers’ phrase “All men are created equal” applied to blacks and whites alike, this did not mean he thought they should have the same social and political rights. His views became clear during an 1858 series of debates with his opponent in the Illinois race for U.S. Senate, Stephen Douglas, who had accused him of supporting “negro equality.” In their fourth debate, at Charleston, Illinois, on September 18, 1858, Lincoln made his position clear. “I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races,” he began, going on to say that he opposed blacks having the right to vote, to serve on juries, to hold office and to intermarry with whites. What he did believe was that, like all men, blacks had the right to improve their condition in society and to enjoy the fruits of their labor. In this way they were equal to white men, and for this reason slavery was inherently unjust.
So........

nic34
08-14-2013, 12:07 PM
So, blad, can you pinpoint when things changed?

1964

This BS is STILL disingenuous chris..... and you KNOW it.

Chloe
08-14-2013, 12:08 PM
Making and defending these kinds of lists does nothing for this country or society in general. People wonder why everyone is so divided well one example is how people judge one another in such blanket ways.

nic34
08-14-2013, 12:12 PM
When did the republican party stop being the progressive party and party of unions and working people?

Roosevelt, going against established precedent, decided to step in. He summoned the mine owners and union representatives to meet with him in Washington. Roosevelt was partly moved by strong public support and took the side of the miners. Still, the mine owners were reluctant to negotiate until Roosevelt, threatening to use his “big stick,” declared that he would seize the mines and operate them with federal troops. Owners reluctantly agreed to arbitration, where the striking workers received a 10 percent pay increase and a nine-hour working day. This was the first time a president sided with unions in a labor dispute, and it helped cement Roosevelt’s reputation as a friend of the common people and gave his administration the nickname “The Square Deal.”

http://www.apstudynotes.org/us-history/topics/the-progressive-presidents/

Mister D
08-14-2013, 12:12 PM
Making and defending these kinds of lists does nothing for this country or society in general. People wonder why everyone is so divided well one example is how people judge one another in such blanket ways.

Neither do the the frivolous accusations of racism we see day in and day out in this country on the part of progressives which is sort of the point. I need not go further than this forum for numerous examples.

Chris
08-14-2013, 12:17 PM
Pinpointing is impossible in politics, as you well know. But a good example is the fact that many racist democrats jumped ship and signed on with the Republican party after Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act in '64.
http://www.forwardprogressives.com/the-truth-about-republican-racism-and-the-southern-strategy/

I knew you'd dismiss the "tired old" Southern Strategy truth. It's to be expected...

As for Lincoln:
http://www.history.com/news/5-things-you-may-not-know-about-lincoln-slavery-and-emancipation


So........



I dismiss it because history says it's BS: http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/15571-11-Liberal-Rules-for-Racism-in-America?p=347103&viewfull=1#post347103

Chris
08-14-2013, 12:19 PM
1964

This BS is STILL disingenuous chris..... and you KNOW it.

The BS is in your dening and distancing yourself from a history of Democrat racism: http://thepoliticalforums.com/threads/15571-11-Liberal-Rules-for-Racism-in-America?p=347103&viewfull=1#post347103


1964 you say:


June 9, 1964
Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate

...


June 10, 1964
Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirksen, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.

GrassrootsConservative
08-14-2013, 12:46 PM
You tell me. The conservative mind seems to know which accusations are false and which are not.

The accusations that are not false are the ones that have been proven. Otherwise we just don't know and it is unfair for Libs to throw those accusations around.

Chris
08-14-2013, 12:51 PM
Making and defending these kinds of lists does nothing for this country or society in general. People wonder why everyone is so divided well one example is how people judge one another in such blanket ways.

I would put it thus: Getting on such a list does nothing for this country or society in general.


We are divided because we have many different opinions and ideas and have had no leader for a good long time to unite us.

Agravan
08-14-2013, 04:14 PM
Making and defending these kinds of lists does nothing for this country or society in general. People wonder why everyone is so divided well one example is how people judge one another in such blanket ways.
Really? Have you even read some of the things your fellow travelers write about conservatives??
talk about blanket accusations....

Kalkin
08-14-2013, 04:23 PM
Racism is the smokescreen used by the left to obscure the fact that they've been intellectually decimated in a discussion.